Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[Tinman]

Damage control, Sir's dont work for Kenyan peasants.

So, Twiggo abandons the Giro on the seventeenth of may, due to 'a chest infection and a minor tendonitis':
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/may/17/bradley-wiggins-leaves-giro-ditalia
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gir...kes-vicioso-hospitalised-no-surgery-for-basso

So, either the Sky medical team are total flukes; tendonitis needs
a rest or
b anti - inflammatories or
c cortisone injections or now for the funny part
d swimming

I thought they had a swimming coach at Sky?

So, how bad was his knee actually?

I sense the need for a doc who specializes in chest infections and tendonitis.

I thought Sky doctors specialize in saddle sores.

Cycling uphill sideways may also cause long term knee problems.

As does trying to convert from a high cadence low power per stroke style (which works well with high Hct counts) to a lower cadence higher power per stroke style (which one would need if Hct not so maximized). Particularly when muscle mass is already low due to winter chicken training program.

 

[goggalor]

Wiggins is clean. He's also not fully fit, out of form and not as robust mentally as he might be. A fairly human sort of cyclist. Good that he won last year, the stars lined up pretty nicely for him in rare fashion.

Sky and Wiggo's win was the least "human" since Postal and Armstrong.

 

[Tinman]

Wiggins is clean. He's also not fully fit, out of form and not as robust mentally as he might be. A fairly human sort of cyclist.

Maybe whoever ordered the knighthood should have considered another year before doing so. Plenty of fairly human sort of cyclists in the empire that could have been considered more deserving. Not to mention better societal role models.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Caught me for about a minute, but it was brilliantly done and I thought worthy of somehow referring back to. wonder who came up with it, seemed too good for anyone unless very close to the scene.

Trev is a well known "favourite" on several forums, usually gets given a yellow or red card at some point, enjoys winding people up, often talks a load of ******** on matters of training and use of tools like power meters, and infrequently something interesting gets lost in the mess of logical fallacy and misinformation. It's mostly a bit of harmless fun.

Amusing that so many "well informed" people fell for it.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Trev is a well known "favourite" on several forums, usually gets given a yellow or red card at some point, enjoys winding people up, often talks a load of ******** on matters of training and use of tools like power meters, and infrequently something interesting gets lost in the mess of logical fallacy and misinformation. It's mostly a bit of harmless fun.

Amusing that so many "well informed" people fell for it.

not surprised that you found it amusing.

 

[Galic Ho]

His numbers may be good but Ferrari thinks Wiggo's build is ****

"Not only respiratory diseases but also muscle fatigue, tendinitis and digestive problems assaulted the more fragile athletes in the peloton.
Cyclists, in addition to food, ingest water and mud from the pavement, which often contains parasites: worm and protozoa infection are definitely not uncommon, draining the energies well beyond the physiological fatigue of a stage race.

And it is riders such as Wiggins and Hesjedal, along with Froome and Gesink, the prototypes of the latest generation of riders whose fragility I had already pointed out (see comment for the TdF of 07/24/12), that are the first to pay the price for such weather conditions, inevitably having to quit the Giro .
Physically very tall and perhaps too thin, they are more exposed to wind and cold compared to more compact and less taut athletes.
But if so much rain is unusual in Italy in the month of May, unforeseen external factors are always to take into account in road cycling, especially when dealing with a competition that lasts more than three weeks on an extremely diverse course, always full of pitfalls."

Can't disagree with him on that.

Like thehog said. Some people are foolish.

I never thought getting that skinny was a bright idea and low and behold Ferrari agrees. I guess we can safely say that he doesn't have anything to do with the Sky program then. Guess that is all down to Leinders and Kerrison.

 

[Ripper]

Like thehog said. Some people are foolish.

I never thought getting that skinny was a bright idea and low and behold Ferrari agrees. I guess we can safely say that he doesn't have anything to do with the Sky program then. Guess that is all down to Leinders and Kerrison.

Welcome back GH.

Of course, Ferrari had an answer to climbing better without getting too skinny

 

[Tinman]

Cyclists, in addition to food, ingest water and mud from the pavement, which often contains parasites: worm and protozoa infection are definitely not uncommon, draining the energies well beyond the physiological fatigue of a stage race.

Maybe after the introduction of helmets, race radios and sunglasses, the latest piece of safety kit is the face mask. To avoid bilharzia and other like parasitic infections.

 

[SundayRider]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22741840 table of BWs GT past history in this article, nothing suspicious looking at all.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22741840 table of BWs GT past history in this article, nothing suspicious looking at all.

You could have gotten that same table on wikipedia, without linking to a major sky fansite

 

[icefire]

Maybe after the introduction of helmets, race radios and sunglasses, the latest piece of safety kit is the face mask. To avoid bilharzia and other like parasitic infections.

The next best thing to have in a cycling team after a swimming coach will be an immunologist. Sky will then lecture the cycling world of the marginal gains it brings to the riders.

 

[the sceptic]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22741840 table of BWs GT past history in this article, nothing suspicious looking at all.

sky scientists and JV will tell you its completely normal and expected.

 

[Rollthedice]

Wiggins just proved this Giro that he is way overrated. He is not a GT rider. His amazing transformation at Garmin is for me more suspicious than winning last year's TDF when he was pulled up the mountains by a British USPS with juiced up Michael Rogers, Froome, Porte and let's not forget the surpring performance of one EBH. The route was made for Sir Brad, his ITT was always good and he had no real competition. I think he's done as a GT contender, which he never really was in the first place.

 

[The Hitch]

Wiggins just proved this Giro that he is way overrated. He is not a GT rider. His amazing transformation at Garmin is for me more suspicious than winning last year's TDF when he was pulled up the mountains by a British USPS with juiced up Michael Rogers, Froome, Porte and let's not forget the surpring performance of one EBH. The route was made for Sir Brad, his ITT was always good and he had no real competition. I think he's done as a GT contender, which he never really was in the first place.

Id rather have 1 tdf win (especially if im english and theres a media machine designed to make me out to be some hero) than be a died in the wool gt contender with 50 top 10s and 10 podiums.

 

[oldcrank]

The next best thing to have in a cycling team after a swimming coach will be an immunologist.

Gregory James LeMond was also an advocate of this strategy.
His father-in-law, Dr. David Morris, was an immunologist and
accompanied the legendary LeMond at many races. I think
SKY is making a mistake if they don't consider a similar policy.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Mastermind - my specialist subject is -

Gregory James LeMond was also an advocate of this strategy.
His father-in-law, Dr. David Morris, was an immunologist and
accompanied the legendary LeMond at many races. I think
SKY is making a mistake if they don't consider a similar policy.

Oldcrank you must have it sown up. I think you could do a better job on Lemond's biography than the guy could himself.

Goto appreciate that level of commitment to Brad/Sky though, I take my hat off to you. BC/Sky could not be getting better value if they put you on the payroll.

 

[thehog]

Wiggins just proved this Giro that he is way overrated. He is not a GT rider. His amazing transformation at Garmin is for me more suspicious than winning last year's TDF when he was pulled up the mountains by a British USPS with juiced up Michael Rogers, Froome, Porte and let's not forget the surpring performance of one EBH. The route was made for Sir Brad, his ITT was always good and he had no real competition. I think he's done as a GT contender, which he never really was in the first place.

Agree.

He's worse than Levi.

Imagine if Leipy won a GT?

Wiggins is the British Levi.

I'd prefer if George Hincapie won a GT.

 

[Ripper]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22741840 table of BWs GT past history in this article, nothing suspicious looking at all.

Joking
Trolling
Delusional
?

 

[webbie146]

Agree.

He's worse than Levi.

Imagine if Leipy won a GT?

Wiggins is the British Levi.

I'd prefer if George Hincapie won a GT.

lol I actually remember Levi attacking in the tdf 07 and at-least he was kinda cool compared to wiggins..

 

[BroDeal]

lol I actually remember Levi attacking in the tdf 07 and at-least he was kinda cool compared to wiggins..

He did have a better haircut than Wiggums.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

lol I actually remember Levi attacking in the tdf 07 and at-least he was kinda cool compared to wiggins..

And Levi was clean after 2006

 

[thehog]

And what of Wiggins’ tough Giro; was he surprised by what had happened? “Not really,” he answered. “In the Giros I have been in, there has always has been rain, narrow roads, and a very crazy race where everything can change in a moment. I was not surprised the race went like that [this year] and it was also clear from the first moment that things were not going well for Wiggins.”

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ant-be-based-on-two-riders.aspx#ixzz2V0yZp4dP

If Contador can pick it appears Marginal Gains Sky can't.

 

[Tinman]

Not winners knees?

 

[Captain Sensible]

Maybe whoever ordered the knighthood should have considered another year before doing so. Plenty of fairly human sort of cyclists in the empire that could have been considered more deserving. Not to mention better societal role models.

His knighthood was as much for the government,s benefit as it was for Brads cycling victorys .

 

[Galic Ho]

Welcome back GH.

Of course, Ferrari had an answer to climbing better without getting too skinny

Cheers,

Ferrari is many things, but he knows his stuff regarding doping and preparation. There is a reason Armstrong had the man on speed dial and he was his numero uno client. He understood it all.

After all, how often did the Postal boys get sick? They only really fell off their bikes and that was rare in itself. But we all know why so many guys are going ridiculously skinny. It's because they need to given the level of doping permissible under the BioPassport's checks and balances. If they aren't super lightweight, then they cannot perform.