Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[red_flanders]

Wow. Whoops!

 

[Dead Star]

@nyvelocity: Translation: This spring, Motoman Philippe Maire also cycled round with Shaun Yates, current team leader of Sky.

http://twitpic.com/ard09c
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Oh dear.

They'd better start that internal investigation like they apparently did with Leinders....

 

[luckyboy]

Maire has been friends with Yates for ages.

 

[the big ring]

Brunyeel tweeted the other day that anyone who wants to know how sky actually won the tdf should watch the sky "documentary", which i understand plays up the marginal gains theory. Its surprising i suppose to see someone like brunyeel backing sky.

Hmmm. Did anyone watch it? I wonder if he's being truthful. Anyone know what Leindeers looks like? What if this is a "they're doing it now" dig?

 

[thehog]

They'd better start that internal investigation like they apparently did with Leinders....

Maybe he keeps Yates's garden tidy as well?

He's very popular for a landscape gardener. He rides a motorcycle well apparently. In his spare time.

 

[Dead Star]

Maybe he keeps Yates's garden tidy as well?

He's very popular for a landscape gardener. He rides a motorcycle well apparently. In his spare time.

Yeah I guess he's a good handyman. Bet he's great to have a pint with. All those stories. "Y'know I was absolutely f******* when I followed the Tour de France one year. One hell of a journey!"

 

[thehog]

Yeah I guess he's a good handyman. Bet he's great to have a pint with. All those stories. "Y'know I was absolutely f******* when I followed the Tour de France one year. One hell of a journey!"

Just me, Edgar and the open road.

 

[Skibby the bush kangaroo]

Maybe he keeps Yates's garden tidy as well?

He's very popular for a landscape gardener. He rides a motorcycle well apparently. In his spare time.

Between retiring and getting his Postal DS gig, Yates worked as a gardener. So obviously he and motoman have multiple shared interests.

 

[the big ring]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/jun/04/cycling.news

That means you can work out the power you need for a certain time to maintain a certain speed over a certain distance. To win the Olympic gold medal in Athens, for example, I needed to be riding at 570 or 580 watts for four minutes. I'm about 10 or 15 watts better than I was in Athens, which means that if I rode the Olympic pursuit against myself today I would be two seconds faster. That's simply because of the way you progress physically as you get older.

Older meaning 24 (2004) to 26 (2006).
2004 Olympic pursuit qualifier: 4:15.165
2008 Olympic pursuit qualifier: 4:15.031

What I find incredible is riding 2 seconds quicker than 4:15 - assuming everything else stayed the same
@ 570W would be 583W
@ 580W would be 593W

so he is remarkably accurate in his assessment - something no doubt he has been told by someone who can crunch numbers. And his memory for these numbers is also remarkably accurate.

In 2006 he did a training camp purely to train for the prologue of the Dauphine.

I spent two weeks in Majorca at a training camp, getting away from the British spring weather. I've had a little team around me, a masseur, a mechanic and some video analysis guys from the English Institute of Sport and it has gone well. The road scene is unpredictable, but like the Paris-Nice race I should be among the favourites.

I know that I have the ability to win today. I don't feel that there can be anyone who is stronger.

He ended up coming 21st, 11 seconds slower than Dave Zabriskie. George Hincapie was 2nd at 2 seconds. Ridiculous.


I like his attitude towards Puerto. I wonder where it went...

The police investigation into blood doping in Spain will focus minds in a different way. I didn't catch up with most of it when I was in Majorca as we were tucked away.

It's bad for the sport in one sense, but I'm glad in a way for riders like me, who won't touch drugs. I know that I have the ability to win today. I don't feel that there can be anyone who is stronger.

I feel that the sponsor who pulled out 10 days ago, Liberty Seguros, backers of the Spanish team of the same name, took a firm stand and that such decisions are more likely to change things.

If there is a deeper problem, such as a team doping, then it needs to come out. I would rather a sponsor pulled out of the sport and that changed things than that they stay in and everyone just goes on as before.

 

[the big ring]

2008 is when he was targeting 570 W.

2004 is when he did 570-580W.

He did the same time in both Olympics.

 

[the big ring]

This is too funny...

https://twitter.com/franmillar/status/246656285972504576

It's Friday. I'm feeling generous. I've 25 M + 25 L of these in the office. First people to tweet M or L to me get one http://lockerz.com/s/244311261

toke the tour

toke: verb; to take a drag or puff of a marijuana joint/spliff.

 

[Roland Rat]

This is too funny...

https://twitter.com/franmillar/status/246656285972504576



toke the tour

toke: verb; to take a drag or puff of a marijuana joint/spliff.

Is your eagerness to portray Sky as USPS squared turning you blind? Or at least impairing your reading ability.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Motoman

@nyvelocity: Translation: This spring, Motoman Philippe Maire also cycled round with Shaun Yates, current team leader of Sky.

http://twitpic.com/ard09c
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Oh dear.

Is that pic real ? cause the ones of the Schlecks are photoshopped.

 

[the big ring]

Is your eagerness to portray Sky as USPS squared turning you blind? Or at least impairing your reading ability.

Is your sense of humour broken?

 

[RichWalk]

I bizzarely (only met the guy once or twice previously and didnt know what job he had) spent Friday night drinking with one of UK Triathons development directors, and we discussed Sky et al at some length.

His view (and he was knowledgeable about current and historic doping) was similar to other coaches that appear on here from time to time, namely he really does err on the side that Sky and the other main Brit riders are clean, he was even more vocal about the Brownlea's etc, being so.

While I got him to admit he still had 'some doubts' he, as others believed a) in the testing & b) with frank discussions with their athletes.

When I countered re Tyler only telling his parents (2004 ish ?) about what he'd done, we reached an impass.

Interesting perspective from within, damn decent bloke too!

 

[sittingbison]

Thats the rub, doping has nothing to do with how good a bloke you are. Some are despicable, some could be your best friend, some your brother.

Anyone though who has faith in the testing needs their head read.

 

[RichWalk]

Agree! Ashenden's not pulling any punches (just appeared on CN) is he in line for a new role??

""Despite the self-serving data bending and associated propaganda to the contrary, I am led to believe that there are pockets of organised, highly sophisticated dopers even within ‘new age’ cycling teams. Personally, I don’t accept that the ‘dark era’ has ended, it has just morphed into a new guise.""

 

[the big ring]

Results from way back when are hard to find but I thought this was interesting:

Wiggins is good enough, at 18, to attend the World Champs for TT to represent Britain. TT: the closest thing you will get to pursuiting on the road. The thing Wiggins is so good at...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...les-camenzind-and-the-emergence-of-cancellara

The 1998 worlds also saw the emergence of a number of new faces that would go on to create a new generation of riders. Fabian Cancellara [17 years old] won the junior men’s time trial; Bradley Wiggins [18 years old] was 16th

Not the latent talent, natural some make him out to be.

2 years later Brad won bronze in the individual pursuit at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Results from way back when are hard to find but I thought this was interesting:

Wiggins is good enough, at 18, to attend the World Champs for TT to represent Britain. TT: the closest thing you will get to pursuiting on the road. The thing Wiggins is so good at...

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features...les-camenzind-and-the-emergence-of-cancellara


Not the latent talent, natural some make him out to be.

2 years later Brad won bronze in the individual pursuit at the 2000 Sydney Olympics.

Interesting ITT that.
Pippo Pozzato finishes just 7 seconds down on Canc.
Great time trialist he turned out to be.
27. Vasil Kirienko (Belorussia) 32.05.1 2.25.90
Worlds Podium yesterday.

I guess it must have something to do with the glaringly obvious, then.
Teenager development rate is a house built upon sand, if you are looking for reliable stats.

Other than that, you seem to be suggesting that Brad was put on a doping programme as a junior.
I hope I'm reading you wrong.

 

[the big ring]

I hope I'm reading you wrong.

Read what I wrote. There's no innuendo or insinuation. Brad had no ability vs a naturally gifted, year younger TTer.

To supply context, I mentioned his bronze 2 years later.

I don't consider 18 to be a "junior".

 

[Mellow Velo]

Read what I wrote. There's no innuendo or insinuation. Brad had no ability vs a naturally gifted, year younger TTer.

To supply context, I mentioned his bronze 2 years later.

I don't consider 18 to be a "junior".

I read what you wrote.
Wiggins couldn't beat the greatest time trialist of his generation.
Nobody arguing against that.

However, no ability riders do not ride in world championships.
Vasili Kiriyenka 27th-No ability?
Considered to have one of the finest engines in the peloton.
Lesser ability, sure.

You don't considered 18 to be a "junior", but the UCI does.
Cancellara won at 18, too.
18 YOs are not fully developed adults.

 

[the big ring]

I read what you wrote.
Wiggins couldn't beat the greatest time trialist of his generation.
Nobody arguing against that.

However, no ability riders do not ride in world championships.
Vasili Kiriyenka 27th-No ability?
Considered to have one of the finest engines in the peloton.
Lesser ability, sure.

You don't considered 18 to be a "junior", but the UCI does.
Cancellara won at 18, too.
18 YOs are not fully developed adults.

As a late developer you don't need to tell me that.

18 is not junior like J12 is. In Australia you can drink, smoke and drive at 18.

Krebs Cycle and acoggan are trying to convince us all that MAOD and a good 4km IP = a season long domination by someone who did nothing worth writing home about on the road for the first 8 years of his professional career.

This is one more piece in a jigsaw.

 

[the big ring]

However, no ability riders do not ride in world championships.
Vasili Kiriyenka 27th-No ability?
Considered to have one of the finest engines in the peloton.
Lesser ability, sure.

Let me paint some racist dots:
Belarus + Tinkoff + Movistar

His "engine' is a worthless 409 compared to 3000 season CQ points Wiggins in 2012.

 

[oldcrank]

Big Ring:
In 1997 Brad was the World Junior Pursuit Champ.
In 1998 his main focus was the Commonwealth Games
Team Pursuit. In fact he was a naturally talented young
rider but his focus was never on the World Junior TT as
it was for Cancellara. Very simple for anyone to see.

 

[thehog]

Big Ring:
In 1997 Brad was the World Junior Pursuit Champ.
In 1998 his main focus was the Commonwealth Games
Team Pursuit. In fact he was a naturally talented young
rider but his focus was never on the World Junior TT as
it was for Cancellara. Very simple for anyone to see.

Which is even more startling. It’s just focus that is all. That what makes the difference. Focus. Can one change their focus at 31 and become the best in the world by a clear margin? Focus on your event.

Looks like they can. Take note.