Wigans goes there. Cadence!

[wrinklyvet]

if you're beginning to take Wiggins jokes or criticism personally, better check your temperature.

No, but I am happy to offer small gems of wisdom, just as you do!

 

[Semper Fidelis]

So you think Wiggins rather than Brailsford invented marginal gains? That's a novel idea. Brailsford copied the expression from him then.

Good joke, but I don't think so.

Actually, I recommend to you a good nap. The longer the better, I find.

Take it easy brah. I did not say he invented the marginal gain. I just said he was taking advantage and having a good siesta.

I recommend this stuff for their next marginal gain - http://www.formula-four.com/ "its all in the science" but more like for this case "its all in the marginal gain"

Don't get all wrinkly on this brah.

 

[wrinklyvet]

Take it easy brah. I did not say he invented the marginal gain. I just said he was taking advantage and having a good siesta.

I recommend this stuff for their next marginal gain - http://www.formula-four.com/ "its all in the science" but more like for this case "its all in the marginal gain"

Don't get all wrinkly on this brah.

No, of course you didn't. It was a joke, as I know full well. Don't get your knickers in a twist when an old boy like me takes the Mick.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

No-one does well on the cobbles by accident. Wiggo is a big unit, with much better bike-handling than generally assumed in the dry, so ideally suited to last year's PR.

Aiming for PR next year is a logical step for a man who has won golds on the track, short stage races, a GT and the OG/WC ITT. 2014's target was always the WC ITT, and that box is now safely ticked.

Re Froome being the best rider in the 2012 Tour, it's wise not to forget that Wiggo walloped him in the ITTs, and he would have needed a lot of time gains on a relatively limited number of climbs. Doubtless Froome was stronger than Wiggo on the Peyragudes, but that's a short climb with limited scope for gains. Who knows what would have happened if he'd attacked properly on La Toussuire. He might have gained 3 minutes or flattered to deceive as he did towards the end of Vuelta 2011, and on Alpe D'Huez and Semnoz.

I don't doubt Wiggo was p*ssed of at the way he got sidelined at Sky, but ultimately, he's got the gold medals, the Knighthood and the high profile. Froome is (widely perceived to be, amongst the masses) just some bloke with a shifty foreign accent who isn't really British who keeps falling off his bike.

Which one is it really? He is a big boy or a thin one? That was the argument for his increased grand tour and overall road performances. He had slimmed down similar to "LA style".

 

[Semper Fidelis]

No, of course you didn't. It was a joke, as I know full well. Don't get your knickers in a twist when an old boy like me takes the Mick.

"old boy" eh? What ya think I am?

I thought you got all Barney Rubble'd over my marginal gain comments.

 

[wrinklyvet]

Which one is it really? He is a big boy or a thin one? That was the argument for his increased grand tour and overall road performances. He had slimmed down similar to "LA style".

Isn't 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) quite big at any weight? Or do you have to be heavy rather than tall to be described as big? Perhaps so in the States - I wouldn't know. But I should not have thought so. In any event, he's bigger than me and he's bigger than Froome too.

 

[wrinklyvet]

"old boy" eh? What ya think I am?

I thought you got all Barney Rubble'd over my marginal gain comments.

I reckon you are a young whipper-snapper needing a bit of help with the confusing world!

 

[sniper]

Isn't 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) quite big at any weight? Or do you have to be heavy rather than tall to be described as big? Perhaps so in the States - I wouldn't know. But I should not have thought so. In any event, he's bigger than me and he's bigger than Froome too.

in fact he's so big you wouldn't believe how fast he goes up a mountain.
well, you would.

 

[wrinklyvet]

in fact he's so big you wouldn't believe how fast he goes up a mountain.
well, you would.

Yes, absolutely vast. Like a new Routemaster. God knows how he does it. it seems to be a total mystery to mere mortals.

 

[sniper]

Yes, absolutely vast. Like a new Routemaster. God knows how he does it. it seems to be a total mystery to mere mortals.

hardly a mystery to me.
what's your explanation?
take your time.

 

[thehog]

Funny how 'looking back now' its obvious, but not at the time

Good reason to hire Rogers, for his experience in that department.

 

[wrinklyvet]

hardly a mystery to me.
what's your explanation?
take your time.

No time needed. I think he sits on his bike and, having done that kind of thing before with lots of useful training, he pedals a bit. I am not into all this pseudo calculation. I expect you have quite a different approach. There's room for all sorts, even here.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Isn't 1.90 m (6 ft 3 in) quite big at any weight? Or do you have to be heavy rather than tall to be described as big? Perhaps so in the States - I wouldn't know. But I should not have thought so. In any event, he's bigger than me and he's bigger than Froome too.

He is 1.90m that's 6 ft 2 13/16) to be exact.

Yeah here in the States we have this little thang called a BMI and there are a few catagories for them. The largest being the folks who need a scooter to do grocery shopping.

Froome is a carnie act at 6 ft 1.

 

[the sceptic]

Was he talking about Rogers here?

Rogers would never dope. He rode for sky and he is from a british colony.

 

[thehog]

Rogers would never dope. He rode for sky and he is from a british colony.

He certainly stopped at Sky because of their ZT policy. What he discovered was his form became better once he did away with blood bags and EPO.

 

[SundayRider]

'2012 the Tour I was supposed to win' strange thing to say.

 

[thehog]

'2012 the Tour I was supposed to win' strange thing to say.

He meant what he said.

 

[SundayRider]

Which one is it really? He is a big boy or a thin one? That was the argument for his increased grand tour and overall road performances. He had slimmed down similar to "LA style".

In cycling weight makes a much bigger difference than height.

 

[SundayRider]

He meant what he said.

'Suposed to win' makes it sound like it was pre-ordained, then again

 

[sniper]

No time needed. I think he sits on his bike and, having done that kind of thing before with lots of useful training, he pedals a bit.

see, that's hardly a mystery now is it.

I am not into all this pseudo calculation. I expect you have quite a different approach. There's room for all sorts, even here.

Then what are you doing in the Clinic?

 

[the sceptic]

'2012 the Tour I was supposed to win' strange thing to say.

Everyone already knew he was going to win that one. It was almost as if it was planned ahead. What better way to promote british cycling than having Wiggo win right before the London olympics?

They probably planned the whole thing with Zorzoli ahead of time. He gave the green light to go full mutant and promised no positives. All the other teams had no idea what was going on when sky rode in front for hours at 450w. Even Basso was impressed and he has seen it all.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I reckon you are a young whipper-snapper needing a bit of help with the confusing world!

I take it from your posts you are from the United Kingdom. I might be a tad older than you think.

I will give you - it is a confusing world out here.

 

[wrinklyvet]

see, that's hardly a mystery now is it.

Then what are you doing in the Clinic and specifically in the Sky-related Clinic threads?
Lots of subforums and threads to choose from if you don't want to consider Wiggins and Froome doping.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/

Is this another "What are you doing here causing disruption" type of remark? I find the Clinic very interesting and I reserve the right to comment if I wish. I am not willing to be cross-questioned just because others seek to insist but I am entitled to my point of view, even here. When you set on someone personally that's a form of bullying that even in the Clinic is out of order.

Tell me if I am wrong, by all means. Show me the rule.

 

[wrinklyvet]

I take it from your posts you are from the United Kingdom. I might be a tad older than you think.

I will give you - it is a confusing world out here.

We might both be old! Greetings and best wishes old chap! It's been fun.

 

[sniper]

Is this another "What are you doing here causing disruption" type of remark? I find the Clinic very interesting and I reserve the right to comment if I wish. I am not willing to be cross-questioned just because others seek to insist but I am entitled to my point of view, even here. When you set on someone personally that's a form of bullying that even in the Clinic is out of order.

Tell me if I am wrong, by all means. Show me the rule.

I was just wondering.
It's a fact that many come here to troll and deflect away from the view that Sky are doping.
Objectively, some of your posts give that impression, but it's reassuring to hear from you that you're not one of them.