Wiggins, Clinic respect?

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sniper said:
clearly i don't mean the friendlies.
some coaches cannot say often enough that competitive, toplevel matches are the best training, especially also during the season. i'm talking pro-soccer here. and knowing the mentality of many very well paid soccerplayers, it's easy to understand why.
Well, the competitive matches they are playing to win, not get fit. In between matches they aren't more matches for the purposes of getting fit. They are doing specific training and resting.

sniper said:
of course there are huge differences between cycling and soccer, but still i think you might be overlooking the obvious reason why there is more training and less racing in present-day cycling.
The main reason is that there is a wider talent pool and teams, particularly the bigger ones, have a lot more top quality riders, so they share the races around a lot more. They don't have to flog their one star rider through 100 days racing a year any more
 
Dear Wiggo said:
With respect: Wiggo is a pursuiter. That's not a track rider, it's someone who TTs on a track.

He did do the madison, which is mad, mad, mad, but without having watched him race, it's difficult to tell if he actually rode in amongst it or powered his way around it. Given Cavendish is the sprinter, when it was scrappy for the sprint laps, Brad would have been throwing Cav in then hightailing it to the top of the track.
Laughable, absolutely laughable comment, and on something
you admit you have never seen, too. Brad has rode lots of
six-days (without Cav) and won at Gent (without Cav) on a
168m long track with 48 degree bankings. You can be sure
"he actually rode in amongst it."

A world record in team pursuit and a six-day win, without any
of his other accomplishments on the track, certainly qualifies
Brad as a track rider of the highest order and no knowledgeable
person that understands the skill and nerve required would
argue otherwise.
 
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oldcrank said:
Laughable, absolutely laughable comment, and on something
you admit you have never seen, too. Brad has rode lots of
six-days (without Cav) and won at Gent (without Cav) on a
168m long track with 48 degree bankings. You can be sure
"he actually rode in amongst it."

A world record in team pursuit and a six-day win, without any
of his other accomplishments on the track, certainly qualifies
Brad as a track rider of the highest order and no knowledgeable
person that understands the skill and nerve required would
argue otherwise.

now if sky can get him to put his track cap on while descending in the rain he might not fall or go backwards:rolleyes:
 
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Yay!

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/brailsford-must-pick-wiggo-126435

“I will be the one making the decision on who is in that team. The riders can offer an opinion but they don’t select the team and they never will.”

In the likelihood that he’ll go for the soft option and chuck Wiggo out, it will leave fans cheated of seeing their hero race just because Brailsford wants a quiet life at Team Sky. We’re backing Wiggo for the Tour. Nothing else makes sense.
 
oldcrank said:
Brad has rode lots of six-days (without Cav) and won at Gent (without Cav) on a
168m long track with 48 degree bankings. You can be sure
"he actually rode in amongst it."

Hmmm thanks for the information on the track length, but I thought the bankings were variable 47° through to 49° at the apex ?

Meanwhile, the penny rolls around failing to drop. Six days, pals with Rob Hayles, won a six-day.

I can remember the evening a group of us were at the Skol in London. A friend who was falling out of love with the sport kept our seats for a while during a break when the riders were off the track. When we returned he was rolling around. Apparently Nigel Dean couldn't be ar**ed to pull the curtain shut properly and he had seen him shooting up. Watched him get the syringe out and prepare the injection. A complete joke. If I am looking for the dirtiest place in our sport the choice is ....

.....evening club 10's.

No, I lie, I didn't mean that

I did mean six-days.
 
On lemond in cycling he interviewed some watts expert and the expert was asked if watts could be used to find dopers and he said that he would be very suspicious of someone increasing their watts kilo by 1 over the space of a year.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Trouble and strife in Wiggo-world? The team hasn't raced in months and at least one rider is saying he hasn't been paid. I'm sure others will follow this up in English very quickly...
I would assume the Wiggins name is toxic to sponsors at the moment, god forbid an ex-rider that has a team named after his ego would make sure that the struggling, terribly paid employees of said team actually got paid, even if it meant going into his own pocket... :rolleyes:

The mirage that Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky created continues to slowly break apart, it's too bad that there's collateral damage to young riders that haven't done anything wrong except ride for the wrong team owner.
 
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Irondan said:
fmk_RoI said:
Trouble and strife in Wiggo-world? The team hasn't raced in months and at least one rider is saying he hasn't been paid. I'm sure others will follow this up in English very quickly...
I would assume the Wiggins name is toxic to sponsors at the moment, god forbid an ex-rider that has a team named after his ego would make sure that the struggling, terribly paid employees of said team actually got paid, even if it meant going into his own pocket... :rolleyes:

The mirage that Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky created continues to slowly break apart, it's too bad that there's collateral damage to young riders that haven't done anything wrong except ride for the wrong team owner.


Sounds like it’s going the way of his infamous charity... giving money to his friends and family.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3706092/Why-did-Wiggins-charity-money-cycling-superstars-Olympic-hero-Bradley-Wiggins-vowed-charity-focus-poor-children-investigation-reveals-gave-money-team-mates-son-s-rugby-team.html

Just as well he’d never dope.... :cool:
 
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Irondan said:
I would assume the Wiggins name is toxic to sponsors at the moment
Check out the names of the sponsors on the team page. There is no indication of any of them having pulled their funding. This is just a story of a team having a cash flow problem, which many teams experience in the second half of a year. If true it's embarrassing, but not the end of the world. Its truth, though, needs to be confirmed.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Irondan said:
I would assume the Wiggins name is toxic to sponsors at the moment
Check out the names of the sponsors on the team page. There is no indication of any of them having pulled their funding. This is just a story of a team having a cash flow problem, which many teams experience in the second half of a year. If true it's embarrassing, but not the end of the world. Its truth, though, needs to be confirmed.
Interesting...
 
According to Brother McQuaid, all is well.


Team Wiggins general manager Andrew McQuaid has denied a French media report stating that the squad is in financial difficulties, insisting that all salaries have and will be paid. Under 23 world time trial championship bronze medallist Corentin Ermenault had told La France Cycliste that things were not good at the British Continental squad. “I have not raced with Team Wiggins since June, because there is no money left in the team.”

Not so, McQuaid said to CyclingTips on Tuesday. “There are no financial difficulties in the team, all salaries have been paid to date.” He also denied that the team’s non-participation in UCI races since the end of July plus its non-selection for the Tour de Yorkshire and the Tour of Britain pointed to a crisis.

“[For the] Tour of Britain, a qualification criteria was set down by the organiser for the six British continental teams. Four of the six qualified. Unfortunately we ranked fifth, so we didn’t qualify. [As for] Yorkshire, I can’t comment on their behalf. They decided what teams participated.

“We have raced in August, just not abroad. Two premier calendars in the UK (we won one and third in the other), various regional championships, and the Rapha Nocturne. Corentin was riding track so couldn’t ride for the team in the UK.

“This is a misunderstanding on Ermenault’s part. Once we didn’t get into Britain – which we didn’t know till mid August – we revised budgets and tightened them. One hundred percent, he has been paid since June. As have all other riders and staff. September invoices are in and will be paid towards end of month as they always are. I can assure you there are no outstanding debts or financial difficulties.
 
The problem is, Team Wiggins are switching over to exclusively U23 road squad for 2018 & 2019 seasons for the remainder of the 2 year Skoda deal and this really already began happening at the start of this season. The problem with being primarily a U23 team in a very competitive UCI Conti circuit with many Senior riders is points will be lower for the same budget, simpy because you have a team of very young riders without experience, several who are track-specific too. Corentin Ermenault's aspirations may well be he wants to race road to the very end of the season, but if the team points are not enough to race those typical Western European races late season and the team works on a fixed annual budget, you can't just send the team further out to Eastern Europe because there's not that kind of money. The team runs on just £460K a year, it's a tiny budget really for a UK team to race internationally into eastern europe anyway.
 
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fmk_RoI said:
Trouble and strife in Wiggo-world? The team hasn't raced in months and at least one rider is saying he hasn't been paid. I'm sure others will follow this up in English very quickly...
To recap and correct this story.

1) Team Wiggins's Corentin Ermenault tells the FFC's La France Cycliste that he hasn't raced with the team since June as it had run out of money;
2) VeloPro run with the story, adding that the team's recent racing calendar has been empty
3) Ermenault's comment about the team having run out of cash is removed from the FFC site and the VeloPro story
4) English-speaking journalists ask Cope + McQuaid what the hell is going on
5) They're told the team is being restructured as a kids' squad and that all is normal, with all riders and all other bills being paid and that the Skoda deal still has another two years on the clock, but that yes, budgets have been revised and tightened.
 
thehog said:
Irondan said:
fmk_RoI said:
Trouble and strife in Wiggo-world? The team hasn't raced in months and at least one rider is saying he hasn't been paid. I'm sure others will follow this up in English very quickly...
I would assume the Wiggins name is toxic to sponsors at the moment, god forbid an ex-rider that has a team named after his ego would make sure that the struggling, terribly paid employees of said team actually got paid, even if it meant going into his own pocket... :rolleyes:

The mirage that Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky created continues to slowly break apart, it's too bad that there's collateral damage to young riders that haven't done anything wrong except ride for the wrong team owner.


Sounds like it’s going the way of his infamous charity... giving money to his friends and family.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3706092/Why-did-Wiggins-charity-money-cycling-superstars-Olympic-hero-Bradley-Wiggins-vowed-charity-focus-poor-children-investigation-reveals-gave-money-team-mates-son-s-rugby-team.html

Just as well he’d never dope.... :cool:


Have to laugh at the people who defended this fraud as the ultimate standup lad.