Wiggins Discussion thread.

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The Hitch said:
Strange example. Did anyone go after wiggins for comparing himself to a girl? Did anyone attack him for that?

I believe ive built a reputation around here as someone who doesn't particularly like wiggins (not since 2012 anyway) but even i said when i saw it that it was a very honest interview.

I thought that was a good interview and I got the feeling he was trying to stay confident but had reservations. He also was complimentary to his rivals. Could be just another anomaly often seen in sport. Testing looks good, physically good but struggling to perform at his peak. Riders often ride the same races with the same preparation but their results vary widely. Wiggins preparation was different this year but everyone on the team seemed confident before the start. Conversely fans were advising Evans to retire earlier in the season and he is second on GC. Such is sport.
 
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whittashau said:
it's bad news for us. No one wants to see great MTFs being removed.

Galiber most certainly will be removed, good news for Nibali, other contenders will have less chances to attack him
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Indeed I could have a written a novel, on each and every rider, or produced slide show and pictures.
Wiggins is a natural TTer - but he can climb - it is not his natural forte, I couldn't say he cannot climb, because someone might try to be pedantic about that.

Still hurt over the Walsh thing, eh?

Hurt over what Walsh thing. My comment about it being the last time I leap to your defense was a joke. I've generally tried my best to avoid any conflict with you because of what you bring to the sky threads, which for me is the bigger picture.

I am surprised that you've resorted to such a petty remark in this case though.

The whole vortex thing people were laughing about was about how you rely entirely on quoting and bolding posts to the death in order to win an argument. with a quite high level of success of course.

Yet here with me you have totally abandoned that and resorted almost immediately to a weak flame.

Did I defeat the vortex?

Cheer up though everyone makes mistakes. It was always going to be impossible to defend a comment where you classified 10 riders as being "better natural climbers" than Wiggins with an argument that he is not a natural climber. How can you rank someone in a classification you don't believe they belong?

You can't. And with a simple clarification which I gave you the chance to give rather than playground snarks, the vortex would have had 1 less strike in the l column.
 

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The Hitch said:
Hurt over what Walsh thing. My comment about it being the last time I leap to your defense was a joke. I've generally tried my best to avoid any conflict with you because of what you bring to the sky threads, which for me is the bigger picture.

I am surprised that you've resorted to such a petty remark in this case though.

The whole vortex thing people were laughing about was about how you rely entirely on quoting and bolding posts to the death in order to win an argument. with a quite high level of success of course.

Yet here with me you have totally abandoned that and resorted almost immediately to a weak flame.

Did I defeat the vortex?

Cheer up though everyone makes mistakes. It was always going to be impossible to defend a comment where you classified 10 riders as being "better natural climbers" than Wiggins with an argument that he is not a natural climber. How can you rank someone in a classification you don't believe they belong?

You can't. And with a simple clarification which I gave you the chance to give rather than playground snarks, the vortex would have had 1 less strike in the l column.

To the bolded - if you are genuine, then I do apologize.

However, the term natural climber is not something I expected to have to explain on a cycling forum.
So picking it out for no relevant reason to any discussion appeared to be a spiteful, however I decided to address it by asking "seriously?".
 
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maxmartin said:
that is very bad news for Wiggins, he might just pull out citing weather reasons

coming from England and citing bad weather as the reason to pull out??
hilarious!!
 
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maxmartin said:
Galiber most certainly will be removed, good news for Nibali, other contenders will have less chances to attack him

I hope not. I hate route changes but of course they have to think of the safety aspect and the riders health. It seems the Tour of California has the same problem because of the heat.
 
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willbick said:
the main reason people on this forum hate him is

1 he's british
2 his riding style is unexciting.

seems rather harsh to me but there you go. I guess people like to find any lame excuses to have a good rant

Like you, I can't speak for everyone here but you are way off the mark. Arrogance, his offensive cry-baby rants, and is hipocracy regarding ****wadstrong leave his boring riding style in a distant 4th place. Being British doesn't even register. Basically he's pretty Dickie.


I respect Walsh's work in the past but wish he would stop with his asinine nationalistic nonsense. This may be the second time Brailsford's "not being afraid to make a decision blah blah.." cost his team a GT victory when the absolute opposite is true. Reminds me of Kimmages praise of Bernard Kohl. Please stop David.
 
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I don't know if posted here but this is what wiggins said yesterdaynight about uran:

"I'll have to speak to Rigoberto tonight. He went all out for the stage. It's just whether he feels now he can go for that GC. There's a time trial. He's quite inconsistent like that; he can have a really good day, win a stage like today and then lose a few seconds tomorrow, so we'll have to see how he feels."


disgusting and pathetic beyond anything. there's a f;n mountain itt coming up and uran has always been consistantly great in them. may the worst of stuff happen to wigog. sad excuse of a "champion"
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
I don't know if posted here but this is what wiggins said yesterdaynight about uran:

"I'll have to speak to Rigoberto tonight. He went all out for the stage. It's just whether he feels now he can go for that GC. There's a time trial. He's quite inconsistent like that; he can have a really good day, win a stage like today and then lose a few seconds tomorrow, so we'll have to see how he feels."


disgusting and pathetic beyond anything. there's a f;n mountain itt coming up and uran has always been consistantly great in them. may the worst of stuff happen to wigog. sad excuse of a "champion"

Err, that quote seems to imply Wiggins is willing to Let Uran go for GC if he feels up to it.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
I don't know if posted here but this is what wiggins said yesterdaynight about uran:

"I'll have to speak to Rigoberto tonight. He went all out for the stage. It's just whether he feels now he can go for that GC. There's a time trial. He's quite inconsistent like that; he can have a really good day, win a stage like today and then lose a few seconds tomorrow, so we'll have to see how he feels."


disgusting and pathetic beyond anything. there's a f;n mountain itt coming up and uran has always been consistantly great in them. may the worst of stuff happen to wigog. sad excuse of a "champion"

You WANT to hate him so there's no point in saying he's basically conceding the Giro to Rigo. Get your head out...
 
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thehog said:
For those who read Italian. Weather from Thursday onwards is dire.

Rain, hail and snow.

http://www.meteoweb.eu/2013/05/alle...tappa-per-tappa-sara-un-weekend-epico/202892/

Maybe see some stages shortened due to neve. The Galiber will be minus -0.

I'd say that's the end or Wiggins.

The Passo dello Stelvio will have one meter or fresh snow by next week.
the italian weather is a joke. don't believe any of it. besides forecasting weather in the mountains seems pretty much impossible
 
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dhawk97 said:
You WANT to hate him so there's no point in saying he's basically conceding the Giro to Rigo. Get your head out...

no he's not. he's saying he doesn't trust uran because he's inconsistant (in itt) he's grasping at strings here and a pathetic man. he doesn't say anywhere he will let uran be leader. he only says he will talk to him, so he can try and talk it out of his head. but perhaps even brailsford already said they will ride for uran and wigigns doesn't want to give up. he says in that same interview how he still believes he can win this giro. lol
 
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People are dancing on Wiggins grave before he's dead. In the top 4 together with a teammate, 2:00 back, power climb MTT to come, form arguably improving.

Consider this scenario: Evans has a jour sans, Nibali does the same, Wiggins rides a good MTT. For me that's believeable.

More likely he'll keep losing 30s here and there and end up with too much to do in the MTT though IMO.

Oops you already had that argument. Fair comment though. If he was done he would have dropped more time on stage 10.
 
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taiwan said:
People are dancing on Wiggins grave before he's dead. In the top 4 together with a teammate, 2:00 back, power climb MTT to come, form arguably improving.

Consider this scenario: Evans has a jour sans, Nibali does the same, Wiggins rides a good MTT. For me that's believeable.

More likely he'll keep losing 30s here and there and end up with too much to do in the MTT though IMO.

Of course that's possible, but the Wiggins hate dynamics in this forum have such a momentum now, that logic is faded out.

People even start ranting about Wiggins regarding stuff other posters made up he could possibly say or do :D

Wiggins certainly isn't an entertaining rider, but he's making the best out of his abilities.
 
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dhawk97 said:
You WANT to hate him so there's no point in saying he's basically conceding the Giro to Rigo. Get your head out...
Are you serious? He's trying to say he's still a better card to play while trying (and failing) to make it sound like he's this reasonable guy who's all for the team. And Wiggins has a better GT record than Urán so he could have used his TdF win or whatever as an argument, but instead he went all passive-aggressive and tried to tear down Urán instead of building himself up.
 
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hrotha said:
Are you serious? He's trying to say he's still a better card to play while trying (and failing) to make it sound like he's this reasonable guy who's all for the team. And Wiggins has a better GT record than Urán so he could have used his TdF win or whatever as an argument, but instead he went all passive-aggressive and tried to tear down Urán instead of building himself up.

Glad to see the team Sky psychologist posting here and clearing everything up.:rolleyes:
 
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hrotha said:
Are you serious? He's trying to say he's still a better card to play while trying (and failing) to make it sound like he's this reasonable guy who's all for the team. And Wiggins has a better GT record than Urán so he could have used his TdF win or whatever as an argument, but instead he went all passive-aggressive and tried to tear down Urán instead of building himself up.

+1 that statement is sort of patronising and fault finding although haven't seen the source.
 
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you guys are hilarious. wiggins should give up the GC coz he's 2 mins behind the leader and 1 sec behind uran? - lol
 
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willbick said:
you guys are hilarious. wiggins should give up the GC coz he's 2 mins behind the leader and 1 sec behind uran? - lol

pls count for me the stageraces he has won without an itt in it :rolleyes:
 
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hrotha said:
Are you serious? He's trying to say he's still a better card to play while trying (and failing) to make it sound like he's this reasonable guy who's all for the team. And Wiggins has a better GT record than Urán so he could have used his TdF win or whatever as an argument, but instead he went all passive-aggressive and tried to tear down Urán instead of building himself up.

this 100%


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