Wiggins Discussion thread.

[pastronef]

Calm down this anti Wiggins maniac someone pls. He is taking a risk not to live till the end of the Giro from surplus of emotions.

One more point. Wiggins is wrong again because unlike anyone he is not entitled to be ill.

well said.
anyway, i don't think a podium spot is possible

 

[Cookster15]

Wiggins is ill just like anyone who live on earth. That's probably the reason of lack cluster result so far. Someone's articles suggested last year when wiggins came in to TDF with super skinny body after loosing weight, that he might be in trouble when the weather got cold or rain. Last year it didn't happen at the TDF. Or maybe it did, but he was masked by his team strength, who knows.

Well maybe because he is too skinny now, he is prone to get sick when weather is so faulty like the first week. Sky has been spending so much time in sunny tenerife and comes giro the weather so far has been hot and cold, rain a lot. It probably took a toll on his skinny body. Nibali and Evan should be careful not to get sick. I suspect hesjedal is hit with the same problem, he just probably doesn't realize it.

For someone sick, wiggins is not bad to loose only 2 minutes. But I think he did great in managing his health problem and just loosing 2 minutes. Eventually when you sick you'll come out of it. So, he'll be dangerous in the last week, if he gets healthy in time. **disclaimer I'm no wiggins supporter either and maybe more in the side of don't like wiggin that much**

Good Post. Agree maybe Wiggins "skinnyness" might be his Achilles heal now. However, I don't really understand why cycling fans aren't willing to cut GC riders some slack if they fall ill during a Grand Tour. Luck takes many forms - maybe multiple GT winners like Alberto Contador have been lucky not to get sick during their GT wins? I don't see that mentioned much.

 

[webvan]

As well as the fact that there are very little differences between the guys in the peloton, they are all elite athletes who would smack anyone else on earth in a climb, we get fooled by the gaps obviously, so a little something that goes wrong and disaster can strike. A bit like piloting a plane at 30,000 feet when you can break up the plane if you go too fast and stall if you go too slowly, they're on the edge, especially being razor thin and with no body fat to speak of to "protect" from illness.

We really take them for granted so it's all the more sickening to read the rants of clueless, most likely totally unfit, know-it-all morons typing away behind their screen.

 

[cineteq]

For someone sick, wiggins is not bad to loose only 2 minutes. But I think he did great in managing his health problem and just loosing 2 minutes. Eventually when you sick you'll come out of it. So, he'll be dangerous in the last week, if he gets healthy in time. **disclaimer I'm no wiggins supporter either and maybe more in the side of don't like wiggin that much**

He's lost 4 minutes, not 2. He was supposed to be ahead of Nibali, more or less, by 2 minutes after the ITT, and he was supposed to wheelsuck and stay with him on the climbs. On the the other hand, how do you justify he drags the whole team down the toilet because of his ego and not saying he was sick?

 

[thehog]

Wiggins now claimed he was sick, that was why he lost time.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/illness-forces-wiggins-on-the-defensive-at-the-giro-ditalia

CyclingNews its "bog-standard" not "box"!

"I've got a chest infection and a box-standard head cold. Fortunately in these days, these kind of stages, there's just a bit of fighting and you can get through them and hide a little bit. That's the plan for the next few days," he said.

 

[thehog]

Good Post. Agree maybe Wiggins "skinnyness" might be his Achilles heal now. However, I don't really understand why cycling fans aren't willing to cut GC riders some slack if they fall ill during a Grand Tour. Luck takes many forms - maybe multiple GT winners like Alberto Contador have been lucky not to get sick during their GT wins? I don't see that mentioned much.

What happened to attention to detail? I thought they washed their hands differently so they didn't get sick?

Sky are a joke.

 

[oldcrank]

What happened to attention to detail? I thought they washed their hands differently so they didn't get sick?

Sky are a joke.

They are surrounded by Johnny Foreigner spitting, sneezing,
and coughing. That's no joke.

 

[manafana]

funny how wiggins now admitting hes sick, were as before denied anything was wrong, i think its somewhere in between

 

[thehog]

funny how wiggins now admitting hes sick, were as before denied anything was wrong, i think its somewhere in between

He would have won otherwise.

 

[thehog]

They are surrounded by Johnny Foreigner spitting, sneezing,
and coughing. That's no joke.

Exchanging of bodily fluids?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Calm down this anti Wiggins maniac someone pls. He is taking a risk not to live till the end of the Giro from surplus of emotions.

One more point. Wiggins is wrong again because unlike anyone he is not entitles to be ill.

if he's ill then why did he ask the colombians to wait for him every day? they were also ill?

 

[Richeypen]

As well as the fact that there are very little differences between the guys in the peloton, they are all elite athletes who would smack anyone else on earth in a climb, we get fooled by the gaps obviously, so a little something that goes wrong and disaster can strike. A bit like piloting a plane at 30,000 feet when you can break up the plane if you go too fast and stall if you go too slowly, they're on the edge, especially being razor thin and with no body fat to speak of to "protect" from illness.

We really take them for granted so it's all the more sickening to read the rants of clueless, most likely totally unfit, know-it-all morons typing away behind their screen.

Well said


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[icefire]

Good Post. Agree maybe Wiggins "skinnyness" might be his Achilles heal now. However, I don't really understand why cycling fans aren't willing to cut GC riders some slack if they fall ill during a Grand Tour. Luck takes many forms - maybe multiple GT winners like Alberto Contador have been lucky not to get sick during their GT wins? I don't see that mentioned much.

I thought teams hired doctors for preventing riders from being sick. I also thought Sky hired a swimming coach for helping their riders to deal with water on the roads. Now I know I'm wrong.

 

[Angliru]

Calm down this anti Wiggins maniac someone pls. He is taking a risk not to live till the end of the Giro from surplus of emotions.

One more point. Wiggins is wrong again because unlike anyone he is not entitles to be ill.

Of course when a certain rider that you detest states that he is/was sick during a stage race, you categorize that as an "excuse" not as an explanation. Your reasoning being that he's not giving his opponents credit for their succcess against him in that particular instance and using his being sick as a way to minimize his rival's victory.

Can we also categorize you as an anti -------- maniac?

 

[King Of The Wolds]

What happened to attention to detail? I thought they washed their hands differently so they didn't get sick?

Sky are a joke.

They reduce risk by doing certain things, not eliminate it altogether. That would be a breakthrough for modern medicine, and I'm not sure Sky are expecting that.

3 and 4 on GC, 2 stages and a dead cert for the Tour waiting in the wings. I know it would hurt too much to admit it, but that's no joke.

Anyway, what you doing over here?

 

[thehog]

They reduce risk by doing certain things, not eliminate it altogether. That would be a breakthrough for modern medicine, and I'm not sure Sky are expecting that.

3 and 4 on GC, 2 stages and a dead cert for the Tour waiting in the wings. I know it would hurt too much to admit it, but that's no joke.

They've only won one GT. Which was a gift. Their classics campaign was a total failure.

For their budget they don't appear to get a return on investment.

And the entire team sick? Right.

 

[Netserk]

They've only won one GT. Which was a gift. Their classics campaign was a total failure.

For their budget they don't appear to get a return on investment.

And the entire team sick? Right.

Couldn't even win the Olympic road race

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Whether Brad is ill, hasn't got the legs or both, I don't ever remember him mentioning illness for a poor performance previously. He may have done, but it's certainly not a recurring theme for him, unlike some riders, so some respect is probably due.

Note also that he's saying this now there's a couple of flat stages where the big guys can't try put any more time into him, if they think he's got a weakness there.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

They've only won one GT. Which was a gift. Their classics campaign was a total failure.

For their budget they don't appear to get a return on investment.

And the entire team sick? Right.

That's what I've been saying for months in the Clinic! Is this some alter-ego that you have over here? Anyway, what are you doing over here?

Re: entire team, do I have to explain to you how microbes are passed from human to human living in close proximity?

 

[Dalakhani]

Wiggins now claimed he was sick, that was why he lost time.

What's he got descendonitis?

After the ITT he said:

"After when we broke it all down and [had] seen the numbers I was producing like that, I was physically better than I've ever been, which also makes it a bit more disappointing,"

All this despite being ill?

Maybe I'm cynical, but I think he might have been looking for an exit if he'd lost time today.

Then he's be on at Brailsford to make him leader for the Tour. Froome better watch his back.

 

[richtea]

When you are weak, you pretend you are strong. And when you are strong, you pretend you are weak. Perhaps this rule of warfare applies here.

 

[thehog]

That's what I've been saying for months in the Clinic! Is this some alter-ego that you have over here? Anyway, what are you doing over here?

Re: entire team, do I have to explain to you how microbes are passed from human to human living in close proximity?

The concern is they're not planning for these types of situations. It's a worry.

It confirms my originals thoughts in regards to Team Sky's massive leap in performances.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

When you are weak, you pretend you are strong. And when you are strong, you pretend you are weak. Perhaps this rule of warfare applies here.

nah, this has nothing to do with mind warfare, just a bit of PR I'am afraid.

Still, Wiggo and the Sky train will get back in business after the next few transitional stages.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

They've only won one GT. Which was a gift. Their classics campaign was a total failure.

For their budget they don't appear to get a return on investment.

And the entire team sick? Right.

yet in the clinic you bash how sky dominate and how it's unbelievable

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

The withdraw and go for the Tour theories really are crackpot.

He's not the Tour leader now, and quitting the Giro in failure is not going to make him any more attractive as a leader. It would be more likely he'd skip the Tour and go for the Vuelta if he did drop out, but I can't see it happening to be honest.