Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Stravoski]

Will Alberto Contador be back to his old doping habits when He returns to the Peloton.

 

[airstream]

Certainly. To a lesser extent though. Unlike Basso, he considers himself guilty by no means. Moreover, he thinks the system was not entitled to hurt him, the dear one. I expect him to become weaker at TT basically. A climber edge is still huge, but we'll never see something like Verbier or Etna in the Tour at least. It is still possible in the Vuelta.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I voted NO but that doesn't mean I think he won't dope again. I think he'll still not dope.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I voted NO but that doesn't mean I think he won't dope again. I think he'll still not dope.

Sadly, there is no Santa Clause. Hate to have to break that bad news to you too.

 

[Ferminal]

I don't know why he'd dope, as you can now win GTs clean.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sadly, there is no Santa Clause. Hate to have to break that bad news to you too.

Are you comparing Alberto to Santa Claus?

 

[Catwhoorg]

One more adverse analytical finding and he is looking at the possibility of a life ban.

He would be a fool to risk it, but I do see it happening.

 

[Berzin]

Will Alberto Contador be back to his old doping habits when He returns to the Peloton.

And just what were his "old doping habits" exactly?

00.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000005% of clenbutarol-whatever.

 

[hrotha]

One more adverse analytical finding and he is looking at the possibility of a life ban.

He would be a fool to risk it, but I do see it happening.

Well, he might trim his program down to the essentials (transfusions, microdosed EPO, HGH and little else), which is the hard stuff to find in a test. He was caught by a fluke after all.

Plenty of people have kept risking it even after being caught once, although many of them probably wouldn't have had much of a career clean. But then again, Contador might not be content with coming back at a merely "good" or "decent" level. That in itself would speak volumes about his past doping, after all.

 

[hrotha]

The performance of Hesjedal in the Giro and the performances of Wiggins in P-N and Romandie shows everyone once and for all races can be won clean. That is the big plus of this season so far if you ask me.

Long may it continue.

Why? Why should we assume they are clean? Especially Wiggins.
edit: wait, maybe you're being sarcastic? I hope you are.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't think he'll do it much different than from the Giro last year. He knew he absolutely couldn't risk a +, but still crushed everyone.

 

[hrotha]

And why should we assume Wiggins doped?

At the end of the day, there is no basis, allegation or rumour against him. End of. Plus like I said many times before he has been outspoken against doping more than most.

I am not like people here who go around accusing people of doping on the basis of a great performance when they have nothing to back it up.

With Contador it is totally different as we had the story with OP and people always had their suspicions on him even before his clenbuterol positive. There is nothing suspicious about Wiggins other than great performances which people love to question around here.

You're going beyond not claiming someone doped without hard evidence, you're actually saying his winning proves being able to win clean is the norm. That's a huge leap forward.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I might add to my post that if he was doping before his ban, he'll continue to do so after his ban.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

The clean Wiggins makes an appearance again

 

[hrotha]

He has ridden for Sky and Garmin who are 2 teams who send out the right signals against doping. He also sends out the right signals individually himself. Just look at his interviews he did during the 07 Tour. That did'nt sound like a fellow who was doping to me. He spoke out even when Cofidis left the race. That was vehemently anti-doping and it was'nt done for PR either. Because of this I am inclined to believe him a lot more than others.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/?id=/riders/2007/interviews/tour_wiggins_post07

Sigh. I don't want to turn this into another Wiggins/Garmin thread, but that's still a huge leap forward. About as huge as Wiggins' performance from the autobus to the front. What he said in 2007 is completely irrelevant.

edit: I mean, you can't pick a controversial, widely disputed fact over which there's absolutely no consensus, base whole theories on that and then belittle those who question your hypotheses. A Wiggins that dopes is better supported by the evidence.

 

[sniper]

I noticed the question mark is missing in the thread's title, which is wise, cuz it's not really a question anyway.

 

[hrotha]

There you have it folks, going from the autobus to 4th is normal. We can use whoever did that as a safe measuring stick.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I noticed the question mark is missing in the thread's title, which is wise, cuz it's not really a question anyway.

 

[Benotti69]

when did he stop?

He is continuing to ride his bike he is continuing to dope!

 

[Fetisoff]

I voted "NO". I'm hearing he's turning vegetarian

 

[Benotti69]

Play to the gallery all you like to get a bit of publicity. That what you do when you can't back up your comments. I will ask you directly what allegation or rumour you have against him?

I don't want to hear the usual "autobus to 4th" nonsense. This time it would be a good idea to back up your statements with facts but I don't know if you have heard of that before. So tell me then? And this time I would like an answer?

We are in the clinic talking about doping in cycling! I do believe the cyclists should prove their innocence before asking fans to believe they are doing it on water and rice cakes. Why? because the history of the sport tells us it is stupid not to do so.

No one has ever produced pure unadulterated evidence that Armstrong doped but children not born yet know he doped.

Wiggins GT performances were;

123rd Giro'05
124th TdF'06
Withdrawn TdF'07
134th Giro'08
71st Giro'09

then suddenly

********4th Tdf'09**********

Now in pro cycling that rings the doping bells all across the cycling capitals in all their major cathedrals.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Are you comparing Alberto to Santa Claus?

No I am comparing your belief that he is and has been clean to a child's belief in Santa Clause.

 

[hrotha]

As I said, this isn't a Wiggins thread. You're free to believe he's clean, gooner, but you absolutely can't use him as a measuring stick. That's my problem with your post.

I'm not saying everybody dopes, but with the history of the sport Wiggins *has* to be suspect. And therefore, he can't be our measuring stick. Moncoutié or Fédrigo can, always with some reservations. If we go simply by "there's no hard evidence against him", then we might as well have used early 2006 season Landis to say the peloton was clean because he was winning races left and right.

 

[Parrulo]

he seemed just fine on the giro 2011, don't see why he change anything.

i also love how since a canadian won the giro and an australian the tour they won them clean but i bet if contador wins the vuelta this year he will be dirtier then ever despite having more talent on his pinky toe then hesjedal has on his entire body (yes an exaggeration)

and this allegations that wiggins is completely clean are beyond pathetic, his leap in performance has only been surpassed by armstrong's and we all know how armstrong did it, which was by losing weight and high cadence

 

[Benotti69]

Read again what I said. I said there is no rumours or allegations against Wiggins. There is a bomb load of rumours and allegations against Armstrong. Big difference.

But yee keep up with yere doping only attitude around here. Off with yee. Your stats where he finished in GTs is again adding arms and legs on to something and linking it on to doping.

Every cyclist who enters the pro game already has a torso that reads doping. That is the sport for ya. Wiggins added the limbs with his performances

Read it what ever way you want. There is a wiggins thread in here.