Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[The Hitch]

I bet even if Sky had signed Schleck, Purito, Cancellara, Sagan and continued to trample the opponents, medcaps would anyway have talked that all this because of doping.
.

But they didn't. They are trampling everyone with Porte froome and Wiggins.

Hence why there is all this suspicion.
what's confusing you?

 

[JimmyFingers]

For a Contador thread there's a lot of chat about Sky, as usual

 

[The Hitch]

For a Contador thread there's a lot of chat about Sky, as usual

Taxus airstream and superwiggo have as much to answer for that as anyone.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

For a Contador thread there's a lot of chat about Sky, as usual

Well, dirty needs to be compared with clean riders James, you gotta know that

 

[Le Baroudeur]

July must be close. Threads full of posters high on the dew from Tyler's scrotum, and flag waving ninnies with their 2p's worth.

Pure comedy gold.

 

[manafana]

same old lack of decent points of view, contador while no angel is hardly glowing at the moment, and then of course sky comes into it.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Well, dirty needs to be compared with clean riders James, you gotta know that

Got a laugh out of me FGL

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Contador is old and part of the "old" era of cycling.
Froome is a youngster and part of the "new" era of cycling.

 

[Netserk]

Contador is old and part of the "old" era of cycling.
Froome is a youngster and part of the "new" era of cycling.

So Contador blood dope, and Froome prefers peptides?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

So Contador blood dope, and Froome prefers peptides?

Froome has always raced paniagua. A couple Powerbars and some Gatorade and the dog is set to rock.

This is the new clean era of cycling. Get with the program. Doping is a thing of the past, the previous era of Armstrong, Contador, DiLuca...wait never mind about that last one.

 

[JRTinMA]

The pollen count must have been much lower today, Contador did not appear to be suffering from hay fever. That or a special delivery from Irun.

 

[Parrulo]

Ya right, Contador wasted a bag on the dauphine . . .

 

[JRTinMA]

He's not going to be winning anything soon so why save it.

 

[biopass]

Ya right, Contador wasted a bag on the dauphine . . .

He had to check if others were as bad as yesterdays bag...

 

[Escarabajo]

I bet even if Sky had signed Schleck, Purito, Cancellara, Sagan and continued to trample the opponents, medcaps would anyway have talked that all this because of doping.

LOL, whats your logic? So to speak 4 great timetrialists blast 3 spaniards (none of them is a specialist in long pancake flat time trials) and it's not normal? Are you ok? That is absolute insanity. Apparenty even if one team will be much stronger than others and push only 1500 w/h uphill, it would be called evil doping. As I see LA case stripped common sense in the clinics very significantly.

Healthy Contador could have lost Froome about 1 min I guess.

I'd tell you that Schleck can do some good by switching teams to Sky, because he would improve a lot and you will be happy again.

 

[LaFlorecita]

He's not going to be winning anything soon so why save it.

To have a chance at winning something soon

 

[Big Doopie]

Once we stop being delusional and recognize that information other than positive tests can be evidence of doping...

Excellent comment.

 

[Big Doopie]

So what you are saying is that you don't know how much Contador was doping, how much he is doping now or how much anyone else is?

Oh a tip of the hat to you.

 

[Big Doopie]

Just a bit of an insight into hayfever which I have had every summer for as long as I can remember.

Contador claiming he had a bad hayfever day.
You don't just hayfever on one day out of the blue. If you have had hayfever for some years you know pretty much on which month to expect it and you have your eye drops, nasal spray and anti-histamine tablets ready. My wife for example gets hayfever March onwards. I get it end of May beginning of June. As Spring in Europe is a bit late this year she has got her hayfever later this year but like clockwork mine has been the last 2 weeks or so.

Contador claiming his bad result was due to hayfever
As I have already said, if you know you get hayfever you take your meds. I take one cetrazine morning and night. (Especially if the height of your sporting peak season coincides with your hayfever). I did a ride this week which I always do on a Tuesday and looking at the time I did it was no different to what I always do, in fact it was better. The majority of the ride you are breathing through your mouth so if your nose is blocked it makes no difference. The point is that it doesn't make that much difference to your performance if you are prepared for it.

Yes. Yes and yes again.

The constant non ending lying. How can you possibly believe a word this guy says. He ate bad steak. Never shows remorse. And once again with the one day allergies.

There is a psychological reason this guy had the "mental" to stand up to the sociopath in 2009.

Why would you trust this guy for one second. It boggles belief.

 

[Taxus4a]

I bet even if Sky had signed Schleck, Purito, Cancellara, Sagan and continued to trample the opponents, medcaps would anyway have talked that all this because of doping.

LOL, whats your logic? So to speak 4 great timetrialists blast 3 spaniards (none of them is a specialist in long pancake flat time trials) and it's not normal? Are you ok? That is absolute insanity. Apparenty even if one team will be much stronger than others and push only 1500 w/h uphill, it would be called evil doping. As I see LA case stripped common sense in the clinics very significantly.

Healthy Contador could have lost Froome about 1 min I guess.

I agree with you, but, one minute with 2009 Contador? yes, healthy? We dont know.
He said he had problems with allergies in this part of the year... well, he said the same in CI in march, so.. if he had problems with allergies all the spring time, why has he won two Giros and a lot of races as Pais Vasco, Castilla y León, etc.. in that time??
Maybe it is true, but with him it is hard to believe.

And La florecilla, if you like Contador, enjoy it, he is clean and doing nice things now, why to say he is not clean?

I was maybe very hard with him yerterday, he could have an important role next Tour, we will see...

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

A ton of anecdotal, ambiguous, unquantifiable, simplistic, flawed and myopic evidence against Wiggins and Froome
Which isn't really evidence. Enough for many of course

Lance fans circa 2005: "A ton of anecdotal, ambiguous, unquantifiable, simplistic, flawed and myopic evidence against Lance. Which isn't really evidence. Enough for many of course"

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

 

[the sceptic]

at least Lance fans had the excuse that we hadnt been through this many times before

 

[Taxus4a]

Again!!! LOl... why are you people acting as though you didn't read, "The Secret Race." Listen to me, if on the morning of the "Festina Affair" Riders still doped do you think a two yr. suspension would stop one of them? Did you skip the part where Tyler said as soon as his suspension was lifeted and he was back in a race he doped both times. Of course Contador will dope again.

Oh wait... you probably think Oofay was his only connection to being juiced. Okay, keep thinking that.

And now arod may be getting a freakin' slap on the wrist One Hundred days!!! Really?

He doped after his positive, but after his banned period.. I had serious doubts

That time he went to Algarve, two days after to be in an spanish tv patetic program claiming his inocence, he performed like this year, so I mean, not well, but after 10 days training in Mallorca, he went to Murcia and won easily, and won the ITT, the same than before, He wanted to do Giro and if possible Tour, but he won Murcia, very early in the year... , that is very suspicious. He won the Giro as well.

But now things have changed a lot for him, he has a lot of pressure in him, and Pepe Marti was in Lance case.

Things, in general, has changed since 2008 slowly (there is Padua over there, and a lot of positives in the way), he was late, but as well did it.

Contador managed to be podium in some races now, that is not a big change, but he has dropped his numbers quite a lot:

Yes, it was raining this year, but:

From GI-3950-camino de Arrate crossroad:
2013:4,4 km@9,3%---13:33---average speed 19.48 km/h(Simon Spilak) Contasdor group about 5 second later.
2012:4,4 km@9,3%---12:58---average speed 20.36 km/h(Contador-Valverde-Rodriguez-Froome)
2012:4,4 km@9,3%---13:06---average speed 20.15 km/h(Horner-S.Sanchez-Rodriguez)
2011:4,4 km@9,3%---13:03---average speed 20.23 km/h(Xavier Tondo)
2010:4,4 km@9,3%---12:32---average speed 21.06 km/h(Chris Horner)
2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)

it is 1:25 more, and a "solo" versus wheel sucker in a group, in just 4,4 kms, it is about 10 % better.
if you believe he was sick before, ok...

He now doping is hard to believe, doping does not improve so much, at least in a good rider as Contador as more than 10 %

That performance maybe wan not unbeliveble itself, not out of human capability, Evans was close (about ten seconds) and I believe all his cycling life (and I have my reasons), but was close to be unbeliveble.

 

[Big Doopie]

at least Lance fans had the excuse that we hadnt been through this many times before

True.

But that also works both ways. There are a lot of people who are accusing EVERYONE of doping. They equivocate. And say every cyclist is the same and has the same type of national drug enforcement agency, etc. People have been burned so many times they can't tell the difference any more. Or don't want to.

How can you not be heartened and..frankly, moved by the ride Rohan Dennis put in today. Wow.

 

[The Hitch]

He doped after his positive, but after his banned period.. I had serious doubts

That time he went to Algarve, two days after to be in an spanish tv patetic program claiming his inocence, he performed like this year, so I mean, not well, but after 10 days training in Mallorca, he went to Murcia and won easily, and won the ITT, the same than before, He wanted to do Giro and if possible Tour, but he won Murcia, very early in the year... , that is very suspicious. He won the Giro as well.

But now things have changed a lot for him, he has a lot of pressure in him, and Pepe Marti was in Lance case.

Things, in general, has changed since 2008 slowly (there is Padua over there, and a lot of positives in the way), he was late, but as well did it.

Contador managed to be podium in some races now, that is not a big change, but he has dropped his numbers quite a lot:

Yes, it was raining this year, but:

From GI-3950-camino de Arrate crossroad:
2013:4,4 km@9,3%---13:33---average speed 19.48 km/h(Simon Spilak) Contasdor group about 5 second later.
2012:4,4 km@9,3%---12:58---average speed 20.36 km/h(Contador-Valverde-Rodriguez-Froome)
2012:4,4 km@9,3%---13:06---average speed 20.15 km/h(Horner-S.Sanchez-Rodriguez)
2011:4,4 km@9,3%---13:03---average speed 20.23 km/h(Xavier Tondo)
2010:4,4 km@9,3%---12:32---average speed 21.06 km/h(Chris Horner)
2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)

it is 1:25 more, and a "solo" versus wheel sucker in a group, in just 4,4 kms, it is about 10 % better.
if you believe he was sick before, ok...

He now doping is hard to believe, doping does not improve so much, at least in a good rider as Contador as more than 10 %

That performance maybe wan not unbeliveble itself, not out of human capability, Evans was close (about ten seconds) and I believe all his cycling life (and I have my reasons), but was close to be unbeliveble.

On the one hand i see Ferrari rogers is in top climbing shape again.

On the other Taxus, who was already unidentified as a troll by a clinic legend before he started posting, says saxo are clean.

What to believe.