Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

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Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

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Oct 16, 2010
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Walkman said:
Because a lot of people on this forum are hypocrites.

When cheaters like Mr. Steak and piti attacks everything is "amazing", "beautiful" and "interesting". When Froome attacks, he is boring and obviously has doped with some new exclusive products.

Although, what do you expect?

Ask a spaniard if he thinks Nadal, AC, piti and their football team is heavy dopers and they say no.

Ask anyone with half a brain a they say yes.

Furthermore this is really interesting. When AC lit up the peloton people were seriously talking about him being the greatest climbing talent ever. Now, SKY are only dopers, dopers and yet again filthy dopers. And they have some new super dope stuff. And so on.

I don't even like Froome, but I am SO happy he is making all the AC and piti fan go crazy and complaining about doping. ****ing hypocrites.

what people are most weary of is USPS-style dominance. Sky has been offering that in the past two seasons. Contador was never part of any USPS-type of dominance. I guess that's one reason why Sky's current results are received with more negativitiy than Contador's 2007-10 results.
 
The Hitch said:
If you dont like their performance, grow the balls to make the posts yourself rather than cry like a 2 year old that others aren't doing so. Whats stopping you?

I have nothing to say about Saxo, it was an excellent move and perfectly executed.

My whole point was, that others here, and actually now that you mention it, you specifically included, wouldn't have admitted that had Sky done it. "5 Skyborgs riding away from everyone - lunacy!".
 
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spalco said:
I have nothing to say about Saxo, it was an excellent move and perfectly executed.

My whole point was, that others here, and actually now that you mention it, you specifically included, wouldn't have admitted that had Sky done it. "5 Skyborgs riding away from everyone - lunacy!".

if sky had done it, it would have added to a whole series of remarkably strong sky performances and two-year overall sky dominance.
so yes, sky doing what saxo did yesterday would've been lunacy.
saxo's performance is really the first time they show themselves in any dominant way this tour and perhaps this season. so that's not ridiculous yet.

btw, it's not as if their performance yesterday hasn't revived the saxo thread. as you see, it has. and if they repeat this dominance on sunday and the rest of the tour, the saxo/riis/contador threads will probably flood.
 
sniper said:
if sky had done it, it would have added to a whole series of remarkably strong sky performances and two-year overall sky dominance.

this isn't really true though is it? They've conclusively failed in the Classics, they failed In last years Vuelta and this years Giro. They've even failed in some one week races I the build up to this tour, in which they look decided weak after being unable to recover from ax3.


Realistically, they've had one good GT which massively suited their leader (and super dom) and where there was little to no competition. They've also done well in one week races that have been much easier for them to control.

They are a great team, with very strong riders, but the talk of dominance doesn't really stack up for me when everything is looked at as a whole. I'm still undecided on doping within Sky, but I think they get a little too much credit for their performances which at times have been pretty poor.
 
Jun 25, 2013
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If Contador makes time on Froome up Ventoux considering both of their form this year, I will have serious doubts as to whether Contador is clean.

The form guide says that Froome will put a minute at least on Contador or if Froome doesn't try to break Contador's spirit, then Contador to stick with him.
 
Oct 17, 2011
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darwin553 said:
If Contador makes time on Froome up Ventoux considering both of their form this year, I will have serious doubts as to whether Contador is clean.

The form guide says that Froome will put a minute at least on Contador or if Froome doesn't try to break Contador's spirit, then Contador to stick with him.

Well it's generally excepted that Contador dopes. It's just the the thing that saxo does not go out everyday making claims about 'marginal gains' because they have nice pillows.
 
spalco said:
I have nothing to say about Saxo, it was an excellent move and perfectly executed.

My whole point was, that others here, and actually now that you mention it, you specifically included, wouldn't have admitted that had Sky done it. "5 Skyborgs riding away from everyone - lunacy!".

I wouldn't have admitted that had sky done what? That it was a clever tactical maneuver? Well I haven't admitted that for saxo either so your emotionally driven argument is already falling apart.
For the record I have never used the term sky Boggs or borgs. And I'm not the one who starts these discussions. I respond to existing conversations.

I said Contador and Riis dope years before most sky groupies like yourself even knew the sport.
If you are going to call someone a hypocrite have a clearer idea of what they actully said because in this case you have confused my clear positions on these issues with those of others and you end up looking like a total amateur shoving sentences you just made up yourself into my mouth and asking me why I said them.
 
spalco said:
Your intitial reply to my comment had absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying, so get off your ****ing high horse here for a moment.

Not my fault you have trouble reading.

Your original post complained that people weren't discussing saxo's performance to the same lenghts they discuss sky's performance.

I read it perfectly well, and my response is that people can post where they want when they want. Its not mandatory for people who find team "revolution" to be a bunch of liars disrespecting the sport, to have to go dig up threads every time another team dopes their way to some sort of success.
 
darwin553 said:
If Contador makes time on Froome up Ventoux considering both of their form this year, I will have serious doubts as to whether Contador is clean.

The form guide says that Froome will put a minute at least on Contador or if Froome doesn't try to break Contador's spirit, then Contador to stick with him.

Its far more suspicipous for a guy to be on peak year round than for a guy to peak 1 week of the year like everyone else.
 
The Hitch said:
Your original post complained that people weren't discussing saxo's performance to the same lenghts they discuss sky's performance.

I read it perfectly well, and my response is that people can post where they want when they want. Its not mandatory for people who find team "revolution" to be a bunch of liars disrespecting the sport, to have to go dig up threads every time another team dopes their way to some sort of success.

No, not at all, as I clearly stated in fact.

But no point in responding further since you only read what you wish I had said anyway, so I'll just let it go.
 
Jun 25, 2013
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The Hitch said:
Its far more suspicipous for a guy to be on peak year round than for a guy to peak 1 week of the year like everyone else.

So the form guide can get thrown out the window then? :confused:
 
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Quick question: when Contador wins the 2013 TDF (which should be around 2020 or so), does he claim he's the "real winner", or does he just trade it for that one that was stripped?
 
Oct 21, 2012
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He should swap it for 2010 so he can claim he had back-to-back titles. Plus that way Andy will never be a Tour winner :p
 
131313 said:
Quick question: when Contador wins the 2013 TDF (which should be around 2020 or so), does he claim he's the "real winner", or does he just trade it for that one that was stripped?

Think he'll maintain he won 3 as he's always done but secretly will feel happy his feelings match the history books.

I doubt Alberto would get the title though.
 
Oct 4, 2011
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sniper said:
couldn't you pick a less suspect garmin rider?

Really ?

His form has been built over years, not over night.
He wins stages he is let win
his form doesnt get better over the tour
he has bad days.

He isnt exactly prime suspect no 1
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
yea, people often get surprised about the level of dopers when juicing goes down.

Gotta say, I like Contador much better at this level compared to the superman stuff he did earlier.

Dominance = hardcore doping.

Lol when Froome attacked and Contador was trying to respond I found myself shouting "Vamos Alberto" at the tv, Ablerto Clendopador ffs
Certainly cleaner than the other guy for sure.