World Championship 2025: Mens U23 and Junior ITTs and RRs

[RedheadDane]

only on the hometrainer, taking selfies....

The difference between riding and racing.

 

[Brullnux]

Finn did the second climb (the long false flat) just one second slower than Evenepoel yesterday.

I actually just saw that Remco said he didn't go all-out there, but either way, Finn was faster than anyone else too. Did the first climb faster faster than everyone but Pogacar, Soderqvist and Remco as well. Not sure how much can be read into that other than Finn can put out a lot of power, more than I'd thought.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

But will he actually be able to race in the rainbow?

If he plans to compete at the EC, then yes.

 

[SafeBet]

Finn did the second climb (the long false flat) just one second slower than Evenepoel yesterday.

I actually just saw that Remco said he didn't go all-out there, but either way, Finn was faster than anyone else too. Did the first climb faster faster than everyone but Pogacar, Soderqvist and Remco as well. Not sure how much can be read into that other than Finn can put out a lot of power, more than I'd thought.

As @Red Rick noted, conditions were likely better today.
That said, Finn rode an excellent time trial even when compared to the other U23 riders. He was the youngest at the start today and not exactly a specialist.

Overall not a flashy season, but very solid. He said he's happy with the legs so hopefully he can get a medal on Friday.

 

[Red Rick]

As @Red Rick noted, conditions were likely better today.
That said, Finn rode an excellent time trial even when compared to the other U23 riders. He was the youngest at the start today and not exactly a specialist.

Overall not a flashy season, but very solid. He said he's happy with the legs so hopefully he can get a medal on Friday.

I also just think the Bora-RB setup is among the best right now. Which adds to my dismay at Roglic not racing the TT.

 

[Red Rick]

Söderqvist uploaded his powerfile to Strava, which is pretty cool. Also handy that Evenepoel uploaded his Strava file (without power obviously)

What stands out to me is how low Söderqvists power on the climbs in that he's doing them at only 6 W/kg - if he's truly 83 kgs, and still staying pretty close to Evenepoels climbing times.

For me the main conclusion to this is that climbing in the TT bike hits so different to climbing on the roadbike, and to a much larger extent than I previously thought.

The other part is the low power outputs on the false flat downhills for me.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Söderqvist uploaded his powerfile to Strava, which is pretty cool. Also handy that Evenepoel uploaded his Strava file (without power obviously)

What stands out to me is how low Söderqvists power on the climbs in that he's doing them at only 6 W/kg - if he's truly 83 kgs, and still staying pretty close to Evenepoels climbing times.

For me the main conclusion to this is that climbing in the TT bike hits so different to climbing on the roadbike, and to a much larger extent than I previously thought.

The other part is the low power outputs on the false flat downhills for me.

Average elevation of 1500 m (and air quality or whatever they were complaining about?) affected power outputs strongly.

 

[KZD]

Söderqvist is a real beast, maybe he will be the one breaking Remco's winning streak in a couple of years time.

Very good 4th place for Finn given his young age and allround profile.

 

[Brullnux]

I also just think the Bora-RB setup is among the best right now. Which adds to my dismay at Roglic not racing the TT.

I'm not really sure about that, I don't think I can remember a particularly impressive TT by any of that team this year. Maybe Lipowitz? The team isn't blessed with great TT riders, but even someone like Sobrero also hasn't done any TT particularly better than in his Jayco days.

 

[Red Rick]

I'm not really sure about that, I don't think I can remember a particularly impressive TT by any of that team this year. Maybe Lipowitz? The team isn't blessed with great TT riders, but even someone like Sobrero also hasn't done any TT particularly better than in his Jayco days.

They consistently do very well in TTTs, and Roglic almost beating Tarling in a short, mostly flat stage 2 TT in the Giro and only not winning because he didn't have a minute man in front of him do indicate that for me.

 

[Brullnux]

They consistently do very well in TTTs, and Roglic almost beating Tarling in a short, mostly flat stage 2 TT in the Giro and only not winning because he didn't have a minute man in front of him do indicate that for me.

I think Tarling went quite slowly there, and the flip side is that Roglic was only 10s ahead of Pedersen and 2s ahead of Vine. I don't think there's much performance evidence to suggest their setup is better than like Ineos/Trek, let alone UAE.

 

[Berniece]

I think Tarling went quite slowly there, and the flip side is that Roglic was only 10s ahead of Pedersen and 2s ahead of Vine. I don't think there's much performance evidence to suggest their setup is better than like Ineos/Trek, let alone UAE.

Isn't the knowledge when it comes to ITT setup shared between SOQ/RBH since both of them ride on Specialized? I think their setup is top notch

 

[Brullnux]

Isn't the knowledge when it comes to ITT setup shared between SOQ/RBH since both of them ride on Specialized? I think their setup is top notch

Yeah I don't think it's bad by any stretch, I'm just not sure there's any real difference between the very best/richest teams – or at least, if there is, then it hasn't translated much on the road. I think UAE had some problems with it early on in the season but their Vuelta TTT and TTs were ridiculous (Vine's have been like that all year). Pogacar has lingering issues but I think that's just him.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

I think his set-up is great for hilly TT and only decent-average for the flat ones (Lipo and Roglic can do well in both sometimes due to great power), opposite to UAE and similar to Visma. Also I really believe that Bigham and Wale are in fact quite good preparing the pace of the distribution of the riders (in case of TTT).
Remco is just a different beast in the discipline and can´t be measured like the others Specialized riders.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The Juniors ITT will start in 30mins or so. Route:

Looking at the startlist (PCS), I drew a blank with Eswatini. Gotta admit never having heard of that nation before (apologize to the good folks). In any case there are several reason to root for the Austrian man, Mr. Fugger. Lets go.

 

[SafeBet]

The Juniors ITT will start in 30mins or so. Route:

Looking at the startlist (PCS), I drew a blank with Eswatini. Gotta admit never having heard of that nation before (apologize to the good folks).

eSwatini was known as Swaziland until a few years ago.

Race is underway.

 

[Potomac]

I didn't see the other TTs .
I love the fanfare with each rider leaving the starting gate.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Thiel with an old fashion aero helmet.

 

[Red Rick]

If Kuntaric goes any faster in a WC ITT he'll get booted from Pogacar's dev team.

 

[Red Rick]

Surén almost taking the hot seat on a road bike. Found the new Froome

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Surely Reinhold won't take another gold for Sweden, currently 1st at 1.st with 19s in hand.

 

[SafeBet]

Reinhold first rider to go under Backstedt time from yesterday.
More than a minute faster.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Current situation at finish:

1	REINHOLD Vilgot		29.55,82	29.55,82	45.3
2	JOHNSON Joshua		0.59,56	30.55,38	43.9
3	KUNTARIČ Vanja		1.24,19	31.20,01	43.3
4	PROSANDEEV Yaroslav		1.33,58	31.29,40	43.1
5	CHZHAN Kirill		1.52,64	31.48,46	42.6
6	HARDY Tristan		1.52,73	31.48,55	42.6
7	KHARBOUCHI Marouane		2.00,26	31.56,08	42.5
8	KUITENOV Murat		2.13,54	32.09,36	42.2
9	SURÉN Roger		2.14,99	32.10,81	42.1
10	YAKOVLEV Matvei		2.18,07	32.13,89	42.1

About 12 still to start with several others on route.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Drake beckham curls one into the top corner at the first time point.

 

[Potomac]

Drake Beckham ... that's a great name

wait... Beckham Drake.... that's great too

It is up there with Bruce Wayne