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....looks like dj's favourite pal has got another great plan to save the world....dude youse better jump on this one because its a really good plan with help from really good people....


....youse really got to read the whole article as quotes simply cannot do it justice....much more better than the great plans McCain backed in Libya, Syria and The Ukraine ( yup more better than the glorious revolution, incredible but true....this could become the basis for Wag the Dog Part Deux....yup that good !...harebrained and lunacy just don't start to describe it....a superlative version of total wackjob is a reasonable opening gambit here)....

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/03/19/mccain-and-montenegro-the-anatomy-of-a-conspiracy-theory/
It sounds like Montenegro wants to be in NATO. The ruling party got more than twice as many votes as the runner up. That seems like a pretty sound mandate.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
blutto said:
....looks like dj's favourite pal has got another great plan to save the world....dude youse better jump on this one because its a really good plan with help from really good people....


....youse really got to read the whole article as quotes simply cannot do it justice....much more better than the great plans McCain backed in Libya, Syria and The Ukraine ( yup more better than the glorious revolution, incredible but true....this could become the basis for Wag the Dog Part Deux....yup that good !...harebrained and lunacy just don't start to describe it....a superlative version of total wackjob is a reasonable opening gambit here)....

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/03/19/mccain-and-montenegro-the-anatomy-of-a-conspiracy-theory/
It sounds like Montenegro wants to be in NATO. The ruling party got more than twice as many votes as the runner up. That seems like a pretty sound mandate.

....well if give this your approval must be a great idea so they should proceed forthwith with haste and hitherto fore....I mean when have you ever been wrong...?....

....and your close personal friend McCain is on board so sounds like a brilliant move....

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It sounds like 99 senators are on board. If you are now going to carry Rand Paul's water, that would prove the old adage that politics makes strange bedfellows.

Every other country in NATO has approved the application and the addition doesn't infringe on Russia in any substantive way IMO.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
It sounds like 99 senators are on board. If you are now going to carry Rand Paul's water, that would prove the old adage that politics makes strange bedfellows.

Every other country in NATO has approved the application and the addition doesn't infringe on Russia in any substantive way IMO.
Why does it not infringe on russia? How would anyone know what they are thinking (well of course the NSA and Obama admin do) but really we should not think just because for us it seems like no problem that russia will not see it as some type of agression to keep them on the leash.

AnyWho one of the russian conspirators seems to think it should get done. So there is that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-montenegro-exclusive-idUSKBN16S2VH
 
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Why does it not infringe on russia? How would anyone know what they are thinking (well of course the NSA and Obama admin do) but really we should not think just because for us it seems like no problem that russia will not see it as some type of agression to keep them on the leash.

AnyWho one of the russian conspirators seems to think it should get done. So there is that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-montenegro-exclusive-idUSKBN16S2VH
Look on a map....

Montenegro is not Georgia or Ukraine.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
Semper Fidelis said:
Why does it not infringe on russia? How would anyone know what they are thinking (well of course the NSA and Obama admin do) but really we should not think just because for us it seems like no problem that russia will not see it as some type of agression to keep them on the leash.

AnyWho one of the russian conspirators seems to think it should get done. So there is that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-montenegro-exclusive-idUSKBN16S2VH
Look on a map....

Montenegro is not Georgia or Ukraine.

...much thanks for the geograhistical heads-up....really appreciated....gosh, just where would we be without you?....

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djpbaltimore said:
Semper Fidelis said:
Why does it not infringe on russia? How would anyone know what they are thinking (well of course the NSA and Obama admin do) but really we should not think just because for us it seems like no problem that russia will not see it as some type of agression to keep them on the leash.

AnyWho one of the russian conspirators seems to think it should get done. So there is that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nato-montenegro-exclusive-idUSKBN16S2VH
Look on a map....

Montenegro is not Georgia or Ukraine.

...much thanks for the geograhistical heads-up....really appreciated....gosh, just where would we be without you?....

Cheers
 
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blutto said:
...much thanks for the geograhistical heads-up....really appreciated....gosh, just where would we be without you?....

Cheers
Lost and befuddled.

....yeah because you are just so bang on like on just everything....in your dreams...in your dreams....

....ok ok sometimes I gotta admit that I'm a little bit lost and maybe even kinda befuddled...but that's only because I want to be lost and befuddled...and if I didn't I would choose not to be....its that simple...hope that helps....

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Canada seems to have played more of an active role in Ukraine than I had realized. Good thing they are 'benevolent' and not like Soros or the CIA.
Ottawa played a part in Ukraine’s “Orange Revolution”. In “Agent Orange: Our secret role in Ukraine” Globe and Mail reporter Mark MacKinnon detailed how Canada funded a leading civil society opposition group and promised Ukraine’s lead electoral commissioner Canadian citizenship if he did “the right thing”.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/09/canadas-russian-aggression/
 
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Canada seems to have played more of an active role in Ukraine than I had realized. Good thing they are 'benevolent' and not like Soros or the CIA.
Ottawa played a part in Ukraine’s “Orange Revolution”. In “Agent Orange: Our secret role in Ukraine” Globe and Mail reporter Mark MacKinnon detailed how Canada funded a leading civil society opposition group and promised Ukraine’s lead electoral commissioner Canadian citizenship if he did “the right thing”.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/09/canadas-russian-aggression/

....yeah some of Harper's oilpatch friends had "rights" to do some fracking based oil/gas recovery in Eastern Ukraine....and he was kind enough to help the project along....

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...rushing to post some news re. the uki putsch regime latest failures (in addition to their incomprehensibly stoopid moves mentioned above); all can be easily verified...

1. the london court has just ruled the neonazis have to honor their $3 billion debt to the russ
2. the ban by the uki govt for the wheel chair-bound russian singer to travel to the kiev eurovision session is having the MAJOR backlash. the eurovision org is saying that ukraine may be sanctioned if they dont respect the equal opportunity for the performers.
3. the IMF is still not clear on when they will grant the uki nazis the loan they promised. curiously, the imf, despite the disproportionate american sway, had essentially helped russia to win the legal case against the uki nazis mentioned above b/c they had to declair the uki debt sovereign. meaning: it was the state-to-state x-action the putsch gov refused, but have to honour.

such are the corporate international rules that even the backers of the uki nazis have to respect b/c they invented them.
 
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python said:
...rushing to post some news re. the uki putsch regime latest failures (in addition to their incomprehensibly stoopid moves mentioned above); all can be easily verified...

1. the london court has just ruled the neonazis have to honor their $3 billion debt to the russ
2. the ban by the uki govt for the wheel chair-bound russian singer to travel to the kiev eurovision session is having the MAJOR backlash. the eurovision org is saying that ukraine may be sanctioned if they dont respect the equal opportunity for the performers.
3. the IMF is still not clear on when they will grant the uki nazis the loan they promised. curiously, the imf, despite the disproportionate american sway, had essentially helped russia to win the legal case against the uki nazis mentioned above b/c they had to declair the uki debt sovereign. meaning: it was the state-to-state x-action the putsch gov refused, but have to honour.

such are the corporate international rules that even the backers of the uki nazis have to respect b/c they invented them.

....funny about the money thingees mentioned above and the glorious revolution....

....first, they can't pay mother Russia cause they got no money....might be a very cold winter on the steppes...

...second, no one in their right minds is going to lend them money because the kleptocrats who run the place will disappear the money nanoseconds after it lands....be like the $40bil in cash that was shipped to Iraq on skids in shrink-wrapped bales and then just went poof....

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.....file under oh my look what I just stumbled onto....

Michael Ignatieff’s looming battle with Hungary

The former Liberal leader says the university he runs in Hungary—backed by George Soros—is being ‘targeted’ by the government

http://www.macleans.ca/news/world/michael-ignatieffs-looming-battle-with-hungary/

....so where exactly did Ignatieff come from when he quite suddenly became head of the Canadian Liberal party?....his parachuting into Canadian politics the way he did was one of the weirdest things I have seen in Canadian politics....and under his leadership the Liberals were such an absolute disaster that a total loser like Harper could end up running Canada for a considerable period of time....and coincidently, playing to a lot of the things very dear to Soros' heart....

...."coincidently" ?.....am I being paranoid ?....or is Soros just a swell sweet guy who had the best of intentions when he helped birth the glorious revolution in The Ukraine....?.....

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blutto said:
.....file under oh my look what I just stumbled onto....

Michael Ignatieff’s looming battle with Hungary

The former Liberal leader says the university he runs in Hungary—backed by George Soros—is being ‘targeted’ by the government

http://www.macleans.ca/news/world/michael-ignatieffs-looming-battle-with-hungary/

....so where exactly did Ignatieff come from when he quite suddenly became head of the Canadian Liberal party?....his parachuting into Canadian politics the way he did was one of the weirdest things I have seen in Canadian politics....and under his leadership the Liberals were such an absolute disaster that a total loser like Harper could end up running Canada for a considerable period of time....and coincidently, playing to a lot of the things very dear to Soros' heart....

...."coincidently" ?.....am I being paranoid ?....or is Soros just a swell sweet guy who had the best of intentions when he helped birth the glorious revolution in The Ukraine....?.....

Cheers
poor soros :rolleyes: he is getting a boot in so many places now ! haven't we just read about how unhappy the irish felt about his proselytizing the libertarian values ?

i never really delved deeply into the essence of the ideas he promotes, but i did notice that they often rhyme perfectly with the various state department 'democracy' promotions all over. you mentioned his role in ukraine...frankly, i did not read much about his role there as i read about the roles of the local oligarchs or such govts as poland and germany. if he was there, one can be sure it was ' independent' of the state department. guaranteed !

all that said, we befriend a middle-aged couple that worked for soros in several countries. the husband was even the head of the soros offices in one of them drawing a salary and meeting the boss occasionally (naturally, i wont specify the country). the impression i got was that these people deeply believed in their mission. the type of people they seem are world travelers, world idealists if it makes sense. he is an american and she is not.
 
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From that story, it's worth talking about how Hungary is quite rapidly becoming a fascist one party state.
 
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I hope that the great people of Australia find out who is responsible for the loss of their car industry and jail them. I hope that the culprits of running housing prices up.. again caught and jailed. And all those responsible for land rape can be brought to justice..I mean I hope a few good Aussies think the Great Barrier Reef and virgin lands are worth protection. I hope that copper miners can start using shovels to preserve good paying jobs..no more automation or modern equipment that Rob's jobs!! No more foreign cars or heavy equipment!!! Only domestic products!!!
 
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