World Politics

[Semper Fidelis]

Fidel dies at 90 - man in the middle of the US/Soviet madness. Condolensces to his family.

Well I can't say I wish him well on his journey. I have personal issues or feelings as in my family was affected by him.

He done what he considered best for his country. Which put him at odds with the USA. He was willing to work with either the USA or Russia at the time from what I understand. It was the USA that cornered him into a relationship with Russia. Or maybe I have that wrong. But we had this policy that still exist today ,,,,where Merickah wants to boss another country around and dictate what we see as merikahs best interest. When Castro started to nationalize corporations and seize corp money and property along with individuals that was the end of his relationship with the USA gov.

Not sure how I feel about Copperhead stating he will reverse the executive order to "normalize" relationships with Cuba. I thought or still believe it is a good idea to work with Cuba.

don doesn't know what to do because nobody has explained it to him, in small words. His 'statement' wasn't written by him.

OBTW-http://www.ibtimes.com/fidel-castro-net-worth-2016-how-cuban-leader-built-wealth-after-1959-revolution-2451623

Are you capable of a independent thought that is not "colored" by your personal politics? Because no matter what is said - you have some offhanded comment.

I mean do you have a real opinion on the dictator that was Castro?

I don't like the snake but some of his comments today with respect to Castro where right on the mark. NO one representing the USA should go to his funeral.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Fidel dies at 90 - man in the middle of the US/Soviet madness. Condolensces to his family.

Well I can't say I wish him well on his journey. I have personal issues or feelings as in my family was affected by him.

He done what he considered best for his country. Which put him at odds with the USA. He was willing to work with either the USA or Russia at the time from what I understand. It was the USA that cornered him into a relationship with Russia. Or maybe I have that wrong. But we had this policy that still exist today ,,,,where Merickah wants to boss another country around and dictate what we see as merikahs best interest. When Castro started to nationalize corporations and seize corp money and property along with individuals that was the end of his relationship with the USA gov.

Not sure how I feel about Copperhead stating he will reverse the executive order to "normalize" relationships with Cuba. I thought or still believe it is a good idea to work with Cuba.

don doesn't know what to do because nobody has explained it to him, in small words. His 'statement' wasn't written by him.

OBTW-http://www.ibtimes.com/fidel-castro-net-worth-2016-how-cuban-leader-built-wealth-after-1959-revolution-2451623

Are you capable of a independent thought that is not "colored" by your personal politics? Because no matter what is said - you have some offhanded comment.

I mean do you have a real opinion on the dictator that was Castro?

I don't like the snake but some of his comments today with respect to Castro where right on the mark. NO one representing the USA should go to his funeral.

He was a thug, Raul is too. The Castro family got rich on the backs of the Cubans as they lived in squalor. My comment was about don and how clueless he is. Like so much else, he supported normalization until he didn't. He's a dope, but I guess he's our dope.

BUT some normalization with Cuba is better for the Cuban people. Try not to look to hard between the lines cuz there might not be anything there.

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

...a Russian Stooge certified disseminator of fake news sourced directly from Putin's office.....

Cheers

:lol:
don't we deserve a raise ?

@kokoso and bulls

i was indeed confused, but the truth be told, i would understand some slovak (lived in prague for a couple years) but not slovenian...wonder why ?

....most absolutely we are criminally underpaid....I can just imagine what Velo and dj got during this election cycle....I mean even if they got a nickel a gallon they should be millionaires by now..

Cheers

 

[blutto]

Fidel dies at 90 - man in the middle of the US/Soviet madness. Condolensces to his family.

Well I can't say I wish him well on his journey. I have personal issues or feelings as in my family was affected by him.

He done what he considered best for his country. Which put him at odds with the USA. He was willing to work with either the USA or Russia at the time from what I understand. It was the USA that cornered him into a relationship with Russia. Or maybe I have that wrong. But we had this policy that still exist today ,,,,where Merickah wants to boss another country around and dictate what we see as merikahs best interest. When Castro started to nationalize corporations and seize corp money and property along with individuals that was the end of his relationship with the USA gov.

Not sure how I feel about Copperhead stating he will reverse the executive order to "normalize" relationships with Cuba. I thought or still believe it is a good idea to work with Cuba.

don doesn't know what to do because nobody has explained it to him, in small words. His 'statement' wasn't written by him.

OBTW-http://www.ibtimes.com/fidel-castro-net-worth-2016-how-cuban-leader-built-wealth-after-1959-revolution-2451623

Are you capable of a independent thought that is not "colored" by your personal politics? Because no matter what is said - you have some offhanded comment.

I mean do you have a real opinion on the dictator that was Castro?

I don't like the snake but some of his comments today with respect to Castro where right on the mark. NO one representing the USA should go to his funeral.

He was a thug, Raul is too. The Castro family got rich on the backs of the Cubans as they lived in squalor. My comment was about don and how clueless he is. Like so much else, he supported normalization until he didn't. He's a dope, but I guess he's our dope.

BUT some normalization with Cuba is better for the Cuban people. Try not to look to hard between the lines cuz there might not be anything there.

....I've been just dying to ask....what is your favourite comic book ?....and when you do write letters and notes and such what brand of crayons do you prefer ?.....

Cheers

 

[Bustedknuckle]

"Do you hear something?"
"No, nothing important, kinda like a fart in the wind"...

 

[blutto]

....and speaking of fake news....

The White Helmets, founded to rescue victims trapped under the rubble of buildings destroyed by Syrian and Russian bombing, have become a favorite source for Western news media covering a story on Russian-Syrian bombing. Portrayed as humanitarian heroes for over the past year and even nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize last summer, the White Helmets have been accorded unquestioned credibility by journalists covering the Syrian crisis.

Yet the White Helmets are hardly a non-political organization. Funded heavily by the U.S. State Department and the British Foreign Office, the group operates only in areas in northern Syria controlled by an al Qaeda affiliate and their extremist allies—areas to which Western journalists have not had access. Given that the White Helmets work under the authority of those who hold the real power in east Aleppo and other opposition-controlled zones, the Western media’s reliance on this organization for information comes with serious risks of being manipulated.

It is obviously difficult for the news media to cover events such as the attack on the Syrian Red Crescent aid convoy and the bombing in Aleppo from Istanbul or Beirut. But the hunger for information from the ground should not outweigh the obligation to vet sources. Selmo and his White Helmets should have been recognized for what they are: a partisan source with an agenda reflecting the power to which the organization is accountable: the armed extremists who have controlled east Aleppo, Idlib, and other areas of northern Syria.

The uncritical reliance on claims by the White Helmets without any effort to investigate their credibility is yet another telling example of journalistic malpractice by media outlets with a long record of skewing coverage of conflicts toward an interventionist narrative

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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/gareth-porter/70068/how-a-syrian-white-helmets-leader-played-western-media

Cheers

 

[blutto]

"Do you hear something?"
"No, nothing important, kinda like a fart in the wind"...

....oh lookee here, someone who lives in a world populated by card-board cut-outs and cartoon characters resorting to scatological terms to get his point across....how very retro, if one considers grade school retro....and no real surprise...

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....just sayin' eh....

These images and videos will never see the light of day in the corporate media editing rooms because they expose their almost six year narrative on Syria as one of the most criminal propaganda projects ever deployed against a sovereign nation, its people, its state and its national army.

The prolonged dehumanization of the majority of the Syrian people, the exploitation of their children as cynical props to further the NATO & Gulf state geo-political objectives in the region, the overt and covert endorsement of NATO State-proxy terrorism, the tacit endorsement of economic terrorism via the illegal US/EU sanctions against Syria, all amount to crimes against Humanity and the Syrian people.

The #FakeNews “regime change” cohorts are seeing their pyramid of lies being dismantled stone by stone, by the very people they have been claiming to “protect” for almost six years.

This video shows the reactions of civilians, fleeing their four year imprisonment in East Aleppo, subjugated by various militant factions, funded by NATO states and led by Nusra Front aka Al Qaeda. The first woman, collapses into tears, as she reaches the journalist. These touching moments will be sullied by the corporate media reporting and accounting of events, as they desperately try to resuscitate their expiring Aleppo chronicle

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45938.htm

Cheers

 

[Brullnux]

Hollande will not stand again. Impressive, a politician who knows where his place is. Hopefully Montebourg will beat Valls, and put up a bit of a fight. Maybe some Le Pen voters will go back to the Socialists, and Melanchon's support will lower. Hopefully Macron will withdraw so we get a left wing party in the run off.

 

[djpbaltimore]

On Tuesday, Canada’s Liberal government approved two major oil pipelines that, if constructed, would send one million more barrels of oil a day from Alberta’s tar sands — known in Canada as oil sands — to markets overseas. The move brought a chorus of criticism from environmentalists and indigenous communities, which have fought hard against the pipeline projects.

Very "progressive" policy by Trumpdeau.
https://thinkprogress.org/canadas-climate-commitments-in-jeopardy-as-trudeau-approves-two-major-pipeline-projects-4000459ddd2f#.cd6i5rp4f

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re:

On Tuesday, Canada’s Liberal government approved two major oil pipelines that, if constructed, would send one million more barrels of oil a day from Alberta’s tar sands — known in Canada as oil sands — to markets overseas. The move brought a chorus of criticism from environmentalists and indigenous communities, which have fought hard against the pipeline projects.

Very "progressive" policy by Trumpdeau.
https://thinkprogress.org/canadas-climate-commitments-in-jeopardy-as-trudeau-approves-two-major-pipeline-projects-4000459ddd2f#.cd6i5rp4f

Much better to transport that oil by rail car.

http://www.businessinsider.com/runaway-freight-train-destroys-canadian-town-after-huge-explosion-2013-7

 

[djpbaltimore]

Much better to leave the oil in the Tar sands in the first place.

 

[blutto]

Re:

On Tuesday, Canada’s Liberal government approved two major oil pipelines that, if constructed, would send one million more barrels of oil a day from Alberta’s tar sands — known in Canada as oil sands — to markets overseas. The move brought a chorus of criticism from environmentalists and indigenous communities, which have fought hard against the pipeline projects.

Very "progressive" policy by Trumpdeau.
https://thinkprogress.org/canadas-climate-commitments-in-jeopardy-as-trudeau-approves-two-major-pipeline-projects-4000459ddd2f#.cd6i5rp4f

....did you happen to check out the conditions attached to the approval ?....there is a very good chance that the approvals will become a technicality as the pipelines will never be built under those conditions....a pretty smart move by Trudeau actually...

Cheers

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re:

Much better to leave the oil in the Tar sands in the first place.

Better figure out how to do your job without petroleum products. Or just ignore the issue. Which is better in some instances.

 

[djpbaltimore]

Re: Re:

On Tuesday, Canada’s Liberal government approved two major oil pipelines that, if constructed, would send one million more barrels of oil a day from Alberta’s tar sands — known in Canada as oil sands — to markets overseas. The move brought a chorus of criticism from environmentalists and indigenous communities, which have fought hard against the pipeline projects.

Very "progressive" policy by Trumpdeau.
https://thinkprogress.org/canadas-climate-commitments-in-jeopardy-as-trudeau-approves-two-major-pipeline-projects-4000459ddd2f#.cd6i5rp4f

....did you happen to check out the conditions attached to the approval ?....there is a very good chance that the approvals will become a technicality as the pipelines will never be built under those conditions....a pretty smart move by Trudeau actually...

Cheers

Interesting turn of phrase. What percentage would 'very good chance' equate to? 90%? 51%? 25%? I believe there was also a very good chance that the Brexit vote would be uneventful too when it was proposed by leadership.

Smart political move or not, Trumpdeau using loopholes to speak out of both sides of his mouth is not progressive.

 

[blutto]

Re: Re:

On Tuesday, Canada’s Liberal government approved two major oil pipelines that, if constructed, would send one million more barrels of oil a day from Alberta’s tar sands — known in Canada as oil sands — to markets overseas. The move brought a chorus of criticism from environmentalists and indigenous communities, which have fought hard against the pipeline projects.

Very "progressive" policy by Trumpdeau.
https://thinkprogress.org/canadas-climate-commitments-in-jeopardy-as-trudeau-approves-two-major-pipeline-projects-4000459ddd2f#.cd6i5rp4f

....did you happen to check out the conditions attached to the approval ?....there is a very good chance that the approvals will become a technicality as the pipelines will never be built under those conditions....a pretty smart move by Trudeau actually...

Cheers

Interesting turn of phrase. What percentage would 'very good chance' equate to? 90%? 51%? 25%? I believe there was also a very good chance that the Brexit vote would be uneventful too when it was proposed by leadership.

Smart political move or not, Trumpdeau using loopholes to speak out of both sides of his mouth is not progressive.

...."what percentage" ?.....how long is a rope ?

....btw you may want to bone up on the political situation here in Soviet Canuckistan....'cause the easiest way to look foolish is to talk about something you know absolutely nothing about....

...just sayin' eh....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....file under, and then there is this ....

The Iraqi army, backed by US-led airstrikes, is trying to capture east Mosul at the same time as the Syrian army and its Shia paramilitary allies are fighting their way into east Aleppo. An estimated 300 civilians have been killed in Aleppo by government artillery and bombing in the last fortnight, and in Mosul there are reportedly some 600 civilian dead over a month.

Despite these similarities, the reporting by the international media of these two sieges is radically differen.

In Mosul, civilian loss of life is blamed on Isis, with its indiscriminate use of mortars and suicide bombers, while the Iraqi army and their air support are largely given a free pass. Isis is accused of preventing civilians from leaving the city so they can be used as human shields.

Contrast this with Western media descriptions of the inhuman savagery of President Assad’s forces indiscriminately slaughtering civilians regardless of whether they stay or try to flee. The UN chief of humanitarian affairs, Stephen O’Brien, suggested this week that the rebels in east Aleppo were stopping civilians departing – but unlike Mosul, the issue gets little coverage.

....and can you say White Hats.....

One factor making the sieges of east Aleppo and east Mosul so similar, and different, from past sieges in the Middle East, such as the Israeli siege of Beirut in 1982 or of Gaza in 2014, is that there are no independent foreign journalists present. They are not there for the very good reason that Isis imprisons and beheads foreigners while Jabhat al-Nusra, until recently the al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, is only a shade less bloodthirsty and generally holds them for ransom

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Much the same self-serving media credulity was evident in Libya during the 2011 Nato-backed uprising against Muammar Gaddafi.

Atrocity stories emanating from the Libyan opposition, many of which were subsequently proved to be baseless by human rights organisations, were rapidly promoted to lead the news, however partial the source.

Overall, government experts did better than journalists, who bought into simple-minded explanations of developments, convinced that Assad was always on the verge of being overthrown.

Phillips records that at a high point of the popular uprising in July 2011, when the media was assuming that Assad was finished, that the long-serving British ambassador in Damascus, Simon Collis, wrote that “Assad can still probably count on the support of 30-40 per cent of the population.”

The French ambassador Eric Chevallier was similarly cautious, only to receive a classic rebuke from his masters in Paris who said: “Your information does not interest us. Bashar al-Assad must fall and will fall.”

http://www.unz.com/pcockburn/why-everything-youve-read-about-syria-and-iraq-could-be-wrong/

....which brings us directly to the problem represented by the Busteds of our world....for some reason they are unable to see past just cheering for anyone other than the home team....and cannot see, that in terms of foreign policy especially, that Obummer is little different than The Chimp, well ok, the tie is a different colour....its all a football game for these folks....bright colours, cartoon narrative, real easy to , uhhh, swallow ( as in, hook . line and sinker )....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

 

[movingtarget]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

 

[blutto]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

.....well yeah that is the official narrative....and the official narrative had WMD in Iraq too....

Cheers

 

[Bustedknuckle]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

Of course it did but 'some' will think it was not, since it was a US program and result. History is a funny thing.

 

[movingtarget]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

.....well yeah that is the official narrative....and the official narrative had WMD in Iraq too....

Cheers

After what the Americans witnessed on Saipan and Okinawa re the Japanese fighting to the last man plus the damage the Kamikazes were inflicting having on the US fleet it was similar to the the last year of the war in Europe but for different reasons re the high casualty rate. The Russian losses on the way to Berlin were high mainly because of careless tactics while the Pacific war was more about the ideals of the Japanese. Certain Americans in the military expected the mainland invasion to go the same way if it was attempted. There was a a few hundred Kamikazes ready to fly on the day of the Hiroshima bomb blast. Their success rate was not high but when they did get through the damage and casualty rate was serious. Some ships were going straight to the bottom with their entire crew. America never apologized for Vietnam either but then Japan did not apologize for Pearl Harbor or for what happened in Nanking or for the death camps or for the comfort women. I don't remember the Russians apologizing for Katyn or for the atrocities committed while invading Berlin. As for the Germans in WWII it took them a long time to even talk about the war and that was no surprise considering the utter human misery they caused. There are no moral victors in war and apologies may happen between veterans and even friendships, but rarely with politicians or the military.

 

[blutto]

These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

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Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

.....well yeah that is the official narrative....and the official narrative had WMD in Iraq too....

Cheers

After what the Americans witnessed on Saipan and Okinawa re the Japanese fighting to the last man plus the damage the Kamikazes were inflicting having on the US fleet it was similar to the the last year of the war in Europe but for different reasons re the high casualty rate. The Russian losses on the way to Berlin were high mainly because of careless tactics while the Pacific war was more about the ideals of the Japanese. Certain Americans in the military expected the mainland invasion to go the same way if it was attempted. There was a a few hundred Kamikazes ready to fly on the day of the Hiroshima bomb blast. Their success rate was not high but when they did get through the damage and casualty rate was serious. Some ships were going straight to the bottom with their entire crew. America never apologized for Vietnam either but then Japan did not apologize for Pearl Harbor or for what happened in Nanking or for the death camps or for the comfort women. I don't remember the Russians apologizing for Katyn or for the atrocities committed while invading Berlin. As for the Germans in WWII it took them a long time to even talk about the war and that was no surprise considering the utter human misery they caused. There are no moral victors in war and apologies may happen between veterans and even friendships, but rarely with politicians or the military.

...nice story, and you tell it with such conviction....

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These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

.....well yeah that is the official narrative....and the official narrative had WMD in Iraq too....

Cheers

After what the Americans witnessed on Saipan and Okinawa re the Japanese fighting to the last man plus the damage the Kamikazes were inflicting having on the US fleet it was similar to the the last year of the war in Europe but for different reasons re the high casualty rate. The Russian losses on the way to Berlin were high mainly because of careless tactics while the Pacific war was more about the ideals of the Japanese. Certain Americans in the military expected the mainland invasion to go the same way if it was attempted. There was a a few hundred Kamikazes ready to fly on the day of the Hiroshima bomb blast. Their success rate was not high but when they did get through the damage and casualty rate was serious. Some ships were going straight to the bottom with their entire crew. America never apologized for Vietnam either but then Japan did not apologize for Pearl Harbor or for what happened in Nanking or for the death camps or for the comfort women. I don't remember the Russians apologizing for Katyn or for the atrocities committed while invading Berlin. As for the Germans in WWII it took them a long time to even talk about the war and that was no surprise considering the utter human misery they caused. There are no moral victors in war and apologies may happen between veterans and even friendships, but rarely with politicians or the military.

Well said and the Bataan death march another example of Japanese non apology. But history is blind, some observer's are too. Deaf also.

 

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These two top officials behind major US wars (Iran/Afghanistan and Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos) and regime change (against Allende, Chile) will speak at the first of a new event, The Nobel Peace Prize Forum Oslo, created by the Nobel Institute in Oslo. More here.

The leaders of the two institutions declare that they are proud to have succeeded in getting these two diplomats to Norway – and the media of course will be there. The event is sponsored by the California-based company InCircl – a marketing and mobile payment company.

The university rector is dr. med. and participant at Bilderberg world elite power group in 2011 Ole Petter Ottersen and you can write him at rektor@uio.no

These two experts on warfare and interventionism will – Orwellian style – speak about “The United States and World Peace After The Presidential Election”.


This is the country that, since 1980, has intervened violently in Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Kosova/Serbia, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, i.e. 14 Muslim countries. It has some 630 base facilities in 130+ countries. It has its US Special Forces (SOF) in 133 countries.

It has used nuclear weapons without apology and owns the second largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.

The US stands for about 40% of the world’s military expenditures, is the world’s leading arms exporter and has killed more people than anybody else since 1945. It’s the master of (imprecise) drone strikes. It presently supports Saudi Arabia’s bestial war on Yemen and conducts a military build-up in Asia and the Pacific planning, as it seems, for what looks like a future confrontation with China. And not with terribly positive results in its Middle East policies since 1945.

So with all these credentials, please tell us about world peace!

The U.S. should be seen as quite incapable of peace-making – not the least thanks to Dr. Kissinger (now 93) who is associated with major “war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture” in places such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Timor, and Chile as stated in the classical book about his peace-making by Christopher Hitchens “The Trial of Henry Kissinger”

.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/01/orwell-in-oslo-nobel-committee-honors-kissinger-again-and-brzezinski/

Cheers

Why would they apologize about using nuclear weapons ? They saved American lives and shortened the war. That was their only concern and they demilitarized Japan. Hitchens views on the USA seemed to moderate during the last years of his life.

.....well yeah that is the official narrative....and the official narrative had WMD in Iraq too....

Cheers

After what the Americans witnessed on Saipan and Okinawa re the Japanese fighting to the last man plus the damage the Kamikazes were inflicting having on the US fleet it was similar to the the last year of the war in Europe but for different reasons re the high casualty rate. The Russian losses on the way to Berlin were high mainly because of careless tactics while the Pacific war was more about the ideals of the Japanese. Certain Americans in the military expected the mainland invasion to go the same way if it was attempted. There was a a few hundred Kamikazes ready to fly on the day of the Hiroshima bomb blast. Their success rate was not high but when they did get through the damage and casualty rate was serious. Some ships were going straight to the bottom with their entire crew. America never apologized for Vietnam either but then Japan did not apologize for Pearl Harbor or for what happened in Nanking or for the death camps or for the comfort women. I don't remember the Russians apologizing for Katyn or for the atrocities committed while invading Berlin. As for the Germans in WWII it took them a long time to even talk about the war and that was no surprise considering the utter human misery they caused. There are no moral victors in war and apologies may happen between veterans and even friendships, but rarely with politicians or the military.

Well said and the Bataan death march another example of Japanese non apology. But history is blind, some observer's are too. Deaf also.

....so are you implying that the Bataan death march somehow justified a reprisal ? Hiroshima and Nagasaki ?.....and as for some observers being deaf dumb and blind ? yeah hard to argue that point...

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