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...as most probably remember, the obama admin at the very end of its term had seized some russian diplomatic property and expelled some 30 diplomats. the alleged reason for the drastic measure was the russian meddling in the us elections and spying. ruusia NEVER retaliated. this is highly unusual given the international diplomatic practice.

putting aside the long and well documented american record of spying and regime changes all over the world, i find it fascinating to observe and study how both the trump and vlad govts deal with the thorny issue they did not create :idea:

on the one hand, trump is under huge pressure at home due to this idiotic russia-gate hysterics. so he cant look soft on those he was accused created him...on the other, russia keeps saying officially (almost daily) that they are ready to retaliate in a symmetric manner. their threats are louder and louder, but, strangely, they have done nothing for already 7 month why :Question:

on the surface, the answer seems in their tactic not to irritate any further the already on the edge raging congress ready to pass a new set of anti russia sanctions. that may be so, but why then they keep yelling of a retaliation never actually delivering one ? as any student of history knows, any words not backed up by actions only incentify the object of the threats.

i think something else is going on. in that regard, yesterday's meeting btwn the russian and american assistants to foreign ministers is telling. while the russians issued 2 contradictory statements (an official - more threats and a private -'we almost struck a deal'), the state department said NOTHING. as if the meeting never took place.

sounds strange, isn't it ? not, if the assumption is they indeed reached some deal. Then the WH silence is understandable (keep the critics guessing) and the russian bluster aimed at the same audience and having the same purpose.

what's exactly in the deal is hard to say, but i'm pretty sure the diplomatic property will be returned and the diplomats will be quietly exchanged/replaced rather than bombastically 'expelled'.

i do think tillerson is much to be credited if my hunch is right... he may be not as honorable as the 'honorable mr kerry', but he's an order of magnitude smarter than the ketchup prince...
quoting myself to indicate that my hunch carefully proposed in that post was dead wrong
Russia orders U.S. to cut diplomatic staff, says to seize diplomatic property
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-retaliation-idUSKBN1AD12V?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

never underestimate the american empereius arrogance now bordering on almost hysterical stupidity after the hillary loss to trump...

if i am not wrong (again), i noted 2 (now 3) curious moments in the russian retaliation:
1. after 7 months of delaying the mirror retaliation (that is, immediately expelling 35 diplomats and seizing the diplomatic property), they now had no choice but do something...b/c trump is now by law powerless to undo the obama diplomatic sanctions
2. again, curiously, the russians did not specify the number of american diplomats to leave, like the obama order (35). they 'suggested' to voluntarily bring the american diplomatic staff in moscow to a parity with the russia's in washington. and they gave a rather ample time to do so - til 1 sept. this is very generous compared to what the russian diplomats got (with their families) - 48 hours.
3. pardon, just thought of this one. when a country expels a bunch of named diplomats, particularly as in obama's order 'for spying', the expelled are considered engaged in spying under the dimplomatic cover and are the 1st to pack up. the russians though did not jump on the opportunity to reduce the known american spies. they sort of said; 'we and you know who the spies are. remove them quietly before we do it loudly'

again, a calculated, modest and discrete move over an impulsive, angry and bombastic 'punishment'.

i doubt NOW that russia will jump at the opportunity to do any american bidding like in north korea, iran south china sea or south america.

american foreigh policy is turning more and more stupid. my opinion.

Sounds like Russia has set a figure for the expulsions :

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/30/russia-us-sanctions-retaliation-sergei-ryabkov&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwib14r17MPVAhWFerwKHVReB9wQFggFMAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHtkQljkumHUBeeJ8wqIl7mtcF8qA
 
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python said:
python said:
...as most probably remember, the obama admin at the very end of its term had seized some russian diplomatic property and expelled some 30 diplomats. the alleged reason for the drastic measure was the russian meddling in the us elections and spying. ruusia NEVER retaliated. this is highly unusual given the international diplomatic practice.

putting aside the long and well documented american record of spying and regime changes all over the world, i find it fascinating to observe and study how both the trump and vlad govts deal with the thorny issue they did not create :idea:

on the one hand, trump is under huge pressure at home due to this idiotic russia-gate hysterics. so he cant look soft on those he was accused created him...on the other, russia keeps saying officially (almost daily) that they are ready to retaliate in a symmetric manner. their threats are louder and louder, but, strangely, they have done nothing for already 7 month why :Question:

on the surface, the answer seems in their tactic not to irritate any further the already on the edge raging congress ready to pass a new set of anti russia sanctions. that may be so, but why then they keep yelling of a retaliation never actually delivering one ? as any student of history knows, any words not backed up by actions only incentify the object of the threats.

i think something else is going on. in that regard, yesterday's meeting btwn the russian and american assistants to foreign ministers is telling. while the russians issued 2 contradictory statements (an official - more threats and a private -'we almost struck a deal'), the state department said NOTHING. as if the meeting never took place.

sounds strange, isn't it ? not, if the assumption is they indeed reached some deal. Then the WH silence is understandable (keep the critics guessing) and the russian bluster aimed at the same audience and having the same purpose.

what's exactly in the deal is hard to say, but i'm pretty sure the diplomatic property will be returned and the diplomats will be quietly exchanged/replaced rather than bombastically 'expelled'.

i do think tillerson is much to be credited if my hunch is right... he may be not as honorable as the 'honorable mr kerry', but he's an order of magnitude smarter than the ketchup prince...
quoting myself to indicate that my hunch carefully proposed in that post was dead wrong
Russia orders U.S. to cut diplomatic staff, says to seize diplomatic property
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-retaliation-idUSKBN1AD12V?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

never underestimate the american empereius arrogance now bordering on almost hysterical stupidity after the hillary loss to trump...

if i am not wrong (again), i noted 2 (now 3) curious moments in the russian retaliation:
1. after 7 months of delaying the mirror retaliation (that is, immediately expelling 35 diplomats and seizing the diplomatic property), they now had no choice but do something...b/c trump is now by law powerless to undo the obama diplomatic sanctions
2. again, curiously, the russians did not specify the number of american diplomats to leave, like the obama order (35). they 'suggested' to voluntarily bring the american diplomatic staff in moscow to a parity with the russia's in washington. and they gave a rather ample time to do so - til 1 sept. this is very generous compared to what the russian diplomats got (with their families) - 48 hours.
3. pardon, just thought of this one. when a country expels a bunch of named diplomats, particularly as in obama's order 'for spying', the expelled are considered engaged in spying under the dimplomatic cover and are the 1st to pack up. the russians though did not jump on the opportunity to reduce the known american spies. they sort of said; 'we and you know who the spies are. remove them quietly before we do it loudly'

again, a calculated, modest and discrete move over an impulsive, angry and bombastic 'punishment'.

i doubt NOW that russia will jump at the opportunity to do any american bidding like in north korea, iran south china sea or south america.

american foreigh policy is turning more and more stupid. my opinion.

Sounds like Russia has set a figure for the expulsions :

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/30/russia-us-sanctions-retaliation-sergei-ryabkov&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwib14r17MPVAhWFerwKHVReB9wQFggFMAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHtkQljkumHUBeeJ8wqIl7mtcF8qA
they did not.. The only official request they issued was that america diplomatic staff equal theirs in america, meaning 455..the 755 is the number by which the us exceeds the parity according to one of vlads statements. Again, it is entirely up to the us who they will cut
 
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.....ahhh, the new old Cold War....safe spaces may soon require a fall-out shelters as part of the sales pitch....maybe Bomb-Proof Safe Spaces will become an IKEA staple....

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....hmmm.....

Four polls over the past week showed Macron's support down sharply from earlier surveys, though each one measured popularity differently. The polls by Ifop, Harris Interactive, YouGov and Elabe showed between 36 and 54 per cent of respondents with positive views of Macron's presidency, a decline from previous gauges of public opinion that also had shown his approval ratings down since he won 66 per cent of the vote in the May election.

His declining approval is striking given that Macron was being credited two months ago with giving France a boost of much-needed confidence after years of security fears and economic stagnation. Increasingly, he instead is portrayed as power-hungry and inexperienced.

Daniel Fasquelle, a lawmaker from the conservative The Republicans party denounced Macron for what he called the "will to weaken all opposition" and for refusing to give interviews. Except for carefully choreographed photo opportunities, the president has distanced himself from the media. He cancelled the traditional Bastille Day television interview.

"These are excesses the French judge more harshly and they are right," Fasquelle said on France's Info radio. "It simply means the president is not up to the task... He's paying for his own lack of experience. Maybe he got too quickly, too soon, high responsibilities that are overwhelming him."

https://ca.yahoo.com/finance/news/france-rethinks-romance-macron-popularity-123921569.html

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I stopped being able to understand you when, in the course of your speech, you stated that “Anti-Zionism … is the reinvented form of anti-Semitism.” Was this statement intended to please your guest, or is it purely and simply a marker of a lack of political culture? Has this former student of philosophy, Paul Ricoeur’s assistant, read so few history books that he does not know that many Jews or descendants of Jewish heritage have always opposed Zionism, without this making them anti-Semites? Here I am referring to almost all the old grand rabbis, but also the stances taken by a section of contemporary orthodox Judaism. And I also remember figures like Marek Edelman, one of the escaped leaders of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, or the communists of Jewish background who took part in the French Resistance in the Manouchian group, in which they perished. I also think of my friend and teacher Pierre Vidal-Naquet and of other great historians and sociologists like Eric Hobsbawm and Maxime Rodinson, whose writings and whose memory are so dear to me, or indeed Edgar Morin. And finally I wonder if you seriously expect of the Palestinians that they should not be anti-Zionists

But to clarify what an anti-Zionist point of view is, it is important to begin by agreeing on the definition of the concept “Zionism,” or at the very least, a series of characteristics proper to this ter. I will endeavor to do so as briefly as possible.

First of all, Zionism is not Judaism. It even constitutes a radical revolt against it. Across the centuries, pious Jews nurtured a deep ardour for their holy land, and more particularly for Jerusalem. But they held to the Talmudic precept intimating that they should not collectively emigrate there before the coming of the Messiah. Indeed, the land does not belong to the Jews, but to God. God gave and God took away again; and he would send the Messiah to restore it, when he wanted to. When Zionism appeared it removed the “All Powerful” from his place, substituting the active human subject in his stead.

We can each give our own view on the question of whether the project of creating an exclusive Jewish state on a slice of land with a very large Arab-majority population is a moral idea. In 1917 Palestine counted 700,000 Arab Muslims and Christians and around 60,000 Jews, half of whom were opposed to Zionism. Up till that point, the mass of the Yiddish-speaking people who wanted to flee the pogroms of the Russian Empire preferred to migrate to the American continent. Indeed, two million made it there, thus escaping Nazi persecution (and the persecution under the Vichy regime).

In 1948 in Palestine there were 650,000 Jews and 1.3 million Arab Muslims and Christians, 700,000 of whom became refugees. It was on this demographic basis that the State of Israel was born. Despite that, and against the backdrop of the extermination of the European Jews, a number of anti-Zionists reached the conclusion that in the name of avoiding the creation of fresh tragedies it was best to consider the State of Israel as an irreversible fait accompli. A child born as the result of a rape does indeed have the right to live. But what happens if this child follows in the footsteps of his father?

And then came 1967. Since then Israel has ruled over 5.5 million Palestinians, who are denied civil, political and social rights. Israel subjects them to military control: for part of them a sort of “Indian reservation” in the West Bank, while others are locked up in a “barbed wire holding pen” in Gaza (70% of the population there are refugees or their descendants). Israel, which constantly proclaims its desire for peace, considers the territories conquered in 1967 as an integral part of the “land of Israel,” and it behaves there as it sees fit. Thus far 600,000 Jewish-Israeli settlers have been moved in there… and this has still not ended!

Is that today’s Zionism? No!, reply my friends on the Zionist Left — which is constantly shrinking. They tell me that we have to put an end to the dynamic of Zionist colonisation, that a narrow little Palestinian state should be created next to the State of Israel, and that Zionism’s objective was to establish a state where the Jews would be sovereign over themselves, and not to conquer “the ancient homeland” in its entirety. And the most dangerous thing in all this, in their eyes, is that annexing territory threatens Israel’s character as a Jewish state.

So here we reach the proper moment for me to explain to you why I am writing to you, and why I define myself as non-Zionist or anti-Zionist, without thereby becoming anti-Jewish. Your political party has put the words “La République” in its name. So I presume that you are a fervent republican. And, at the risk of surprising you: I am, too. So being a democrat and a republican I cannot — as all Zionists do, Left and Right, without exception — support a Jewish State. The Israeli Interior Ministry counts 75% of the country’s citizens as Jewish, 21% as Arab Muslims and Christians and 4% as “others” (sic). Yet according to the spirit of its laws, Israel does not belong to Israelis as a whole, whereas it does belong even to all those Jews worldwide who have no intention of coming to live there. So for example, Israel belongs a lot more to Bernard Henri-Lévy or to Alain Finkielkraut than it does to my Palestinian-Israeli students, Hebrew speakers who sometimes speak it better than I do! Israel hopes that the day will come when all the people of the CRIF (“Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France”) and their “supporters” emigrate there! I even know some French anti-Semites who are delighted by such a prospect. On the other hand, we could find two Israeli ministers close to Netanyahu putting out the idea that it is necessary to encourage the “transfer” of Israeli Arabs, without that meaning that anyone demanded their resignations.

That, Mr. President, is why I cannot be a Zionist. I am a citizen who desires that the state he lives in should be an Israeli Republic, and not a Jewish-communalist state. As a descendant of Jews who suffered so much discrimination, I do not want to live in a state that, according to its own self-definition, makes me a privileged class of citizen. Mr. President, do you think that that makes me an anti-Semite

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/11/why-i-cannot-be-a-zionist-an-open-letter-to-emmanuel-macron/

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....must read...

When Qatar’s Al Jazeera satellite channel has both the Saudis and the Israelis demanding its closure, it must be doing something right. To bring Saudi head-choppers and Israeli occupiers into alliance is, after all, something of an achievement.

But don’t get too romantic about this. When the wealthiest Saudis fall ill, they have been known to fly into Tel Aviv on their private jets for treatment in Israel’s finest hospitals. And when Saudi and Israeli fighter-bombers take to the air, you can be sure they’re going to bomb Shiites – in Yemen or Syria respectively – rather than Sunnis.

And when King Salman – or rather Saudi Arabia’s whizz-kid Crown Prince Mohammad – points the finger at Iran as the greatest threat to Gulf security, you can be sure that Bibi Netanyahu will be doing exactly and precisely the same thing, replacing “Gulf security”, of course, with “Israeli security”. But it’s an odd business when the Saudis set the pace of media suppression only to be supported by that beacon of freedom, democracy, human rights and liberty known in song and legend as Israel, or the State of Israel or, as Bibi and his cabinet chums would have it, the Jewish State of Israel

Ayoob Kara, however, has actually taken his cue from his fellow Arabs. And he admits it. Israel had to take steps, he said, against “media, which has been determined by almost all Arab countries to actually be a supporter of terror, and we know this for certain”. So the Israelis, it appears, now receive lessons on media freedoms from “Arab countries”. Not just the Saudis, of course, but from “almost all Arab countries” whose unfettered media – one thinks at once of the untrammelled liberal press of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Algeria and yes, “almost” the entire media of the Gulf – are bastions of truth-telling, hard-hitting opponents of authoritarian regimes, constitutionally protected from dictatorial abuse. Forgive the hollow laughter. But is this really how Israel wants to define itself?

Imprisonment without trial, extrajudicial executions, human rights abuses, corruption, military rule – let’s say this at once: all these characteristics belong to “almost all” Sunni Muslim Arab nations – and to Israel in the lands it occupies. And as for being a “supporter of terror” (I quote Israeli minister Kara again), one must first ask why Sunni Gulf Arabs have exported their fighters – and their money – to the most vicious Sunni Islamists in the Middle East. And then ask why Israel has never bombed these same vile creatures – indeed, ask why Israel has given hospital treatment to wounded fighters from the Sunni al-Nusra – in other words, al-Qaeda, the perpetrators of 9/11 – while attacking Shiite Hezbollah and Alawite (Shiite) led-Syria, and threatened to bombard Shiite Iran itself which is a project, I should add, of which Kara himself is all in favour.

....and....

Being an irrational optimist, there’s an innocent side of my scratched journalistic hide that still believes in education and wisdom and compassion. There are still honourable Israelis who demand a state for the Palestinians; there are well-educated Saudis who object to the crazed Wahhabism upon which their kingdom is founded; there are millions of Americans, from sea to shining sea, who do not believe that Iran is their enemy nor Saudi Arabia their friend. But the problem today in both East and West is that our governments are not our friends. They are our oppressors or masters, suppressors of the truth and allies of the unjust

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/14/why-israel-and-saudi-arabia-are-united-against-al-jazeera/

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....interesting titbit on the glorious revolution....and the rest of the article is a good read as well....

This global order cannot be maintained by the MIC alone; the more that the MIC fails (such as in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, …), the more that economic sanctions rise to become the essential tool of the imperial masters. We are increasingly in the era of economic sanctions. And, now, we’re entering the backlash-phase of it.


A turning-point in escalating the weaponization of finance was reached in February 2014 when a Ukrainian coup that the Obama Administration had started planning by no later than 2011, culminated successfully in installing a rabidly anti-Russian government on Russia’s border, and precipitated the breakaway from Ukraine of two regions (Crimea and Donbass) that had voted overwhelmingly for the man the U.S. regime had just overthrown. This coup in Ukraine was the most direct aggressive act against Russia since the Cold War had ‘ended’ (it had actually ended on the Russian side, but not on the American side, where it continues) in 1991. During this coup in Kiev, on February 20th of 2014, hundreds of Crimeans, who had been peacefully demonstrating there with placards against this coup (which coup itself was very violent — against the police, not by them — the exact opposite of the way that “the Maidan demonstrations” had been portrayed in the Western press at the time), were attacked by the U.S.-paid thugs and scrambled back into their buses to return home to Crimea but were stopped en-route in central Ukraine and an uncounted number of them were massacred in the Ukrainian town of Korsun by the same group of thugs who had chased them out of Kiev.

This massacre didn’t play well on local Crimean television. Immediately, a movement to secede and to again become a part of Russia started, and spread like wildfire in Crimea. (Crimea had been only involuntarily transferred from Russia to Ukraine by the Soviet dictator Khrushchev in 1954; it had been part of Russia for the hundreds of years prior to 1954. It was culturally Russian.) Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin, said that if they’d vote for it in a referendum, then Russia would accept them back into the Russian Federation and provide them protection as Russian citizens. On 6 March 2014, U.S. President Obama issued “Executive Order — Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine”, and ignored the internationally recognized-in-law right of self-determination of peoples (though he recognized that right in Catalonia and in Scotland), and he instead simply declared that Ukraine’s “sovereignty” over Crimea was sacrosanct (even though it had been imposed upon Crimeans by the Soviet dictator — America’s enemy — in 1954, during the Soviet era, when America opposed, instead of favored and imposed, dictatorship around the world, except in Iran and Guatemala, where America imposed dictatorships even that early). Obama’s Executive Order was against unnamed “persons who have asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine.” He insisted that the people who had just grabbed control of Ukraine and massacred Crimeans (his own Administration’s paid far-right Ukrainian thugs, who were racist anti-Russians), must be allowed to rule Crimea, regardless of what Crimeans (traditionally a part of Russia) might — and did — want.


America’s vassal aristocracies then imposed their own sanctions against Russia when on 16 March 2014 Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to rejoin the Russian Federation.


Thus started the successive rounds of economic sanctions against Russia, by the U.S. government and its vassal-nations. (As is shown by that link, they knew that this had been a coup and no authentic ‘democratic revolution’ such as the Western press was portraying it to have been, and yet they kept quiet about it — a secret their public would not be allowed to know.)


The latest round of these sanctions was imposed not by Executive Order from a U.S. President, but instead by a new U.S. law, “H.R.3364 — Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act”, which in July 2017 was passed by 98-2 in the Senate and 419-3 in the House, and which not only stated outright lies (endorsed there by virtually everyone in Congress), but which was backed up by lies from the U.S. Intelligence Community that were accepted and endorsed totally uncritically by 98 Senators and 419 Representatives. (One might simply assume that all of those Senators and Representatives were ignorant of the way things work and were not intentionally lying in order to vote for these lies from the Intelligence Community, but these people actually wouldn’t have wrangled their ways into Congress and gotten this far at the game if they hadn’t already known that the U.S. Intelligence Community is designed not only to inform the President but to help him to deceive the public and therefore can’t be trusted by anyone but the President. It’s basic knowledge about the U.S. government, and they know it, though the public don’t.)

http://www.unz.com/article/vassal-aristocracies-increasingly-resist-control-by-u-s-aristocracy/

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“AIPAC shares the outrage and deep concern of our fellow Americans about the inexcusable violence and sickening displays of racism and anti-Semitism in Charlottesville this past weekend. The vile hatred expressed by neo-Nazis, the KKK and white supremacists must be categorically and unambiguously rejected. We urge all elected officials to reject moral equivalence between those who promote hate and those who oppose it. There must be no quarter for bigotry in our country.'”

It is strange indeed that whilst AIPAC is outraged by the violence, racism and antisemitism in Charlottesville and categorically rejects the vile hatred exposed, it is not outraged by the brutal military occupation of former Palestine or the illegal blockade of essential supplies for the 500,000 Arab families in Gaza who are forced to live without power as a result of Israel’s deliberate destruction of its electricity supplies.

In fact, AIPAC actively arms, funds and supports the Occupation and the illegal settlement that has induced over 600,000 Israelis to settle on Palestinian land.

AIPAC rejects UN Resolution 2334 that condemns the Israeli government illegal settlement policy notwithstanding that the United States is bound by that Resolution as a UN Member.

AIPAC’s outrage is a ‘selective’ outrage that helps one community, whilst violating another and AIPAC’s claimed indignation at the abuse of human rights, apparently only extends to Virginia, in the United States of America.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pro-isreal-lobby-aipacs-position-on-charlottesvilles-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-rally/5604898

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.....interesting....

“AIPAC shares the outrage and deep concern of our fellow Americans about the inexcusable violence and sickening displays of racism and anti-Semitism in Charlottesville this past weekend. The vile hatred expressed by neo-Nazis, the KKK and white supremacists must be categorically and unambiguously rejected. We urge all elected officials to reject moral equivalence between those who promote hate and those who oppose it. There must be no quarter for bigotry in our country.'”

It is strange indeed that whilst AIPAC is outraged by the violence, racism and antisemitism in Charlottesville and categorically rejects the vile hatred exposed, it is not outraged by the brutal military occupation of former Palestine or the illegal blockade of essential supplies for the 500,000 Arab families in Gaza who are forced to live without power as a result of Israel’s deliberate destruction of its electricity supplies.

In fact, AIPAC actively arms, funds and supports the Occupation and the illegal settlement that has induced over 600,000 Israelis to settle on Palestinian land.

AIPAC rejects UN Resolution 2334 that condemns the Israeli government illegal settlement policy notwithstanding that the United States is bound by that Resolution as a UN Member.

AIPAC’s outrage is a ‘selective’ outrage that helps one community, whilst violating another and AIPAC’s claimed indignation at the abuse of human rights, apparently only extends to Virginia, in the United States of America.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pro-isreal-lobby-aipacs-position-on-charlottesvilles-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-rally/5604898

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spot on. i am going to oversimplify it a tad, but in essence aipac is little more than a racism promoting organization since the absolute majority of the united nations states officially ruled that zionism the official ideology of the state it promotes - is a form racism akin to apartheid.

as i said several times...it was not always so. the zionists lost their high ground some time when the survival of israel ( a noble goal) had overgrown into the obnoxious suppression tool.
 
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"North Korea shipments to Syria chemical arms agency intercepted: U.N. report"
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-syria-un-idUSKCN1B12G2

....hmmm....

The report by a panel of independent U.N. experts, which was submitted to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month and seen by Reuters on Monday, gave no details on when or where the interdictions occurred or what the shipments contained

....dust storm....wondering for whose benefit ?....

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Beech Mtn said:
"North Korea shipments to Syria chemical arms agency intercepted: U.N. report"
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-syria-un-idUSKCN1B12G2
The article even says they don't know what, when, or where the two packages were intercepted. And the two entities involved KOMID, and Syria's Scientific Studies Research Center are only suspected by think tanks and analysts of being up to no good. That was codified via US presidential Executive Orders, so it's now taken as fact that they are nefarious.

So literally this is a story about nothing...

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blutto said:
Beech Mtn said:
"North Korea shipments to Syria chemical arms agency intercepted: U.N. report"
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-syria-un-idUSKCN1B12G2

....hmmm....

The report by a panel of independent U.N. experts, which was submitted to the U.N. Security Council earlier this month and seen by Reuters on Monday, gave no details on when or where the interdictions occurred or what the shipments contained

....dust storm....wondering for whose benefit ?....

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They gotta get the rationale in place
 
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For Netanyahu and other Israeli officials the chief concern was never the black clad death cult which filmed itself beheading Americans and burning people alive. "Let the Sunni evil prevail," they say.

Israel is threatening to escalate military action in Syria against perceived Iranian interests. This week Netanyahu declared, "we will act when necessary according to our red lines" while hinting he prefers ISIS presence in Syria as opposed to Iran aligned fighters at his border. This comes as ISIS is now crumbling, and at a time when most world leaders of nations driving the external proxy war in Syria have toned down their rhetoric regarding the future fate of the Assad government


A policy paper published by an influential Israeli think tank which contracts with NATO argues that ISIS is a "useful tool" for Israel's strategic defense.

Various current and former Israeli defense officials have echoed this point of view over the years, including former Israeli Ambassador to the US Michael Oren, who in 2014 surprised the audience at Colorado's Aspen Ideas Festival when he said in comments related to ISIS that, "the lesser evil is the Sunnis over the Shias." Oren, while articulating Israeli defense policy, fully acknowledged he thought ISIS was "the lesser evil". Likewise, for Netanyahu and other Israeli officials the chief concern was never the black clad death cult which filmed itself beheading Americans and burning people alive, but the possibility of, in the words of Henry Kissinger, "a Shia and pro-Iran territorial belt reaching from Tehran to Beirut" and establishment of "an Iranian radical empire."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-24/netanyahu-putin-iran-must-leave-syria-or-we-will-act

....so Israel is best buds with the lung eaters....cool !.....and also all cuddly with the other bastion of democracy in the Middle East , Saudi Arabia....cooler still.....wonder how Merika fits into this ménage a trois....

....bottom line, really exceptional group of wonderful people doing exceptional good with common purpose, whatever the hell that might be.....

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....interesting development....

“Can Israel bring home its 1 million US Expats?” was the headline on an article in the Jerusalem Post 3 weeks ago; and it has gotten very little attention, though the article states bluntly that as many as 1 million Israelis are now living in the U.S.

“between 750,000 and 1 million Israelis live in the country,” says Israel’s US Embassy, though others put the figure as low as 200,000.

If you walk around the Upper West Side, you know something’s up, from the Hebrew you can hear on Broadway; but this is an important story for two reasons, demographic and spiritual.

First, Israel has long claimed to be a majority Jewish state (as if that justifies Jews’ higher status). Right now the numbers of Jews and Palestinians between the river and the sea are said to be equal, 6.5 million to 6.5 million. If 1 million Jews are living outside the country– and the Post article refers to the expats as “Jews” — that means it’s likely that there are more Palestinians than Jews in the lands over which Israel is exercising sovereignty.

That would mean a Jewish minority ruling a non-Jewish majority under the aegis of “the Jewish state”: which just seals the deal on the contested “apartheid” label.

The other reason this story is important is that it shows that for all the propaganda about Israel being the safest place in the world for Jews, and Israel being the Jewish “home,” and Jews in Israel “living the dream,” Jews themselves do not seem to be swayed by the argument. Israel has never traditionally been the top choice for emigrating Jews; and it’s not now, either.

“In recent years, Israel has lost more people to the United States than it has gained,” the article says– by 17,700 to 13,000 over three years.

That outflow apparently came in the latest year on record, 2015; 16,700 Israelis left while 8,500 came in, Haaretz reports. In talks, John Mearsheimer has called the trend “reverse aliyah.”

Back in 2011 Gideon Levy reported that 100,000 Israelis hold German passports; and he noted the irony that Israel is not a safe place for Jews (or non-Jews either):


If our forefathers dreamt of an Israeli passport to escape from Europe, there are many among us who are now dreaming of a second passport to escape to Europe.

He also said the crisis was generated by the fact that Israel hadn’t figured out its constitutional structure:


If the Palestinian people already had one real passport, maybe the Israelis wouldn’t need two.

We have heard many anecdotal stories about Israelis leaving, because they do not see a future in living in a state increasingly isolated from the world. This article is more evidence of that trend. It deserves a lot more attention– a 60 Minutes report exposing the claim that Israel is the safest place for Jews, or some other investigative project on why these Israelis are leaving. Don’t hold your breath

http://mondoweiss.net/2017/08/many-million-israelis/

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....sort of a Chalabi flavoured echo ?...

In Historic Move, Qatar Restores Diplomatic Relations With Iran

Qatar has remained defiant throughout its unprecedented summer diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states which have brought immense pressure to bear on the tiny gas and oil rich monarchy through a complete economic and diplomatic blockade imposed by its neighbors. However, on Thursday it unveiled a stunning geopolitical realignment when it announced the restoration of diplomatic relations with Iran in a move that is arguably its greatest act of defiance yet. The Qatari foreign ministry announced early Thursday that "the state of Qatar expressed its aspiration to strengthen bilateral relations with the Islamic Republic of Iran in all fields" and reportedly informed Iran by phone of plans to return the Qatari ambassador to Tehran for the first time since it broke relations in 2016.

The move is significant because the chief accusation leveled against Qatar by its former GCC allies, especially Saudi Arabia, is of growing too close to Iran while sponsoring and funding terrorism. For the Sunni gulf states "funding terrorism" is more often a euphemism meaning links to Iran and Shia movements in the gulf. Ironically, there is ample evidence demonstrating that both sides of the current gulf schism have in truth funded terror groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, especially in Syria. But Qatar's announcement sends an audacious and daring message essentially signalling that the country remains unbowed by Saudi pressure, and that the severe economic sanctions designed to bring Qatar to its knees may result in a geopolitical backfiring and new regional order as Iran stands to benefit

And yet surprisingly it appears Qatar is increasingly in the geopolitical driver's seat, having called the bluff of the more powerful GCC states led by Saudi Arabia and backed by Saudi allies like the US and even Israel. For now it appears tiny Qatar is defying the odds, and its potential to successfully navigate the current economic and diplomatic full frontal assault has huge repercussions for the entire region. As accurately predicted by a comprehensive report by Middle East scholar Mouin Rabbani produced earlier this summer:

The big winners so far are Iran, Syria, and their Lebanese ally Hizballah, who cannot but be delighted by the audible cracks in the alliance ranged against Damascus and Tehran and that may well spell the end of the GCC. Iran and Hizballah will additionally hope that Hamas has finally learned the lesson that no ally of the United States can be a true friend of the Palestinians. Turkey has also, yet again, demonstrated that in today’s Middle East it has a role to play in every crisis and that others ignore Ankara’s interests– whether in the Gulf, Syria, or Iraq–at their peril. On the flip side, there are growing noises within Riyadh and Abu Dhabi that the campaign should expand to include Turkey–which has recently been claiming that the UAE is implicated in the 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan.

Will we all look back on this moment when future historians trace the end of the GCC? Did the Saudis finally overreach in their anti-Iran fanaticism to become the authors of their own demise? The surprising emergent Iran-Qatar alliance is sure to at least be the start of a new regional order where the Saudis can no longer dictate terms no matter how many Western powers stand at their side.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-24/historic-move-qatar-restores-diplomatic-relations-iran

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^^indeed an interezting development ! IT APPEAR the saud' and its allies ultimatum to qatar was ignored with literally not a single demand being met...

I may note also, since we are on the subject of the wider mideast, that another little commented on development is the apparent reproachment btwn the saud and russia,,,i will post an interesting analysis/article when i get home. Also, today, i hear that one of the russian top officials called the syrian civil war essentially over. That is some statement considering where syria was 18 to 24 months ago before the russians moving in.
 
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.....double standards with your latte ?.....

Shia Insurrection in Saudi Arabia; The Battle for Awamiya

by Thomas Mountain

Since May, 2017 an ongoing insurgency has been raging in the Shia heartland town of Awamiya in eastern Saudi Arabia and it’s only thanks to the BBC being allowed to enter the area and film the destruction that the world can see how the House of Saud’s war against the Shia population of Yemen has now expanded to include the Shia population of eastern Saudi Arabia.

Wahabi is as Wahabi does with the crimes committed in the name of Sunni Islam in Yemen now being carried out next door to their cousins, the Saudi Shia. Only the silence of the media lambs internationally alongside the UN, allows this to go unnoticed, for a double standard has long existed when it comes to condemning the crimes of the House of Saud. After the latest round of beheadings of Shia leaders protests turned to gunfire in Awamiya and the fires of armed revolution have been lit for the first time in Saudi Arabia.

The Shia of eastern Saudi Arabia are cousins to their rather unorthodox Houthi neighbors in Yemen with a long history of intermarriage and commerce. The flood of small arms that has plagued Yemen for decades past have over the years made its way into the hands of the Shia population in the midst of the House of Saud’s oil fields. While many waited in vain for the armed struggle to break out in Bahrain instead it exploded in the cultural heartland of this once Persian province and in a much more strategically critical location, in Awamiya and ancient al-Zara.

While still early, for almost 4 months now the armed resistance in Awamiya appears to have fought the Saudi army into a stalemate....

....and this could become interesting....in a the world as we know it shattering interesting.....

If this very first armed uprising is able to maintain their determination to see an end to their oppression by their Wahabi occupiers similar to the relentless fight being waged by the mainly Houthi based resistance in Yemen then all hell could break lose.

Losing control of their oil fields would inevitably bring down the Royal House of Saud, in power since their installation by the British after WWI.

If this armed uprising survives the Saudi Army onslaught and can spread to villages and towns throughout Shia eastern Saudi Arabia and the over 3 million strong Shia people take up arms against the regime similar to their cousins in Yemen those shivers running down the spines of the lords of power east and west could quickly grow to be migraine headaches as a major portion of the world’s oil supplies could be threatened if not cut off
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/28/shia-insurrection-in-saudi-arabia-the-battle-for-awamiya/

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...some hours ago, the north koreans in their most clear sign of defiance so far fired a missile over japan. it is very significant, since it was preceded by the flamboyant oratory on both side including the trump's 'fire and fury'

those interested can find many links in the western media. invariably, they all contain 2 phrases: 'unprecedented provocation' and 'new escalation'.

it goes without saying, that the continued american military expansion in korea and just started joint border exercises were no more than some sweats offer and a modest attempt at peacy peace.

i will not be surprised if it was a chinese response (of course as always with a mysterious eastern smile) to more crude, one-sided pressure on china in the form of just passed...guess what, yep, new economic sanctions.

that china has its own legitimate security concerns when it proposed limiting the american weaponry and exercises in its back yard, CANT penetrate the arrogant sculls of those who constantly replace diplomacy with 'my dijk is bigger or else'

given the norkor intransigence and the american arrogance, another war may be looming. it will be the 5th or 6th (i lost the count) actual ongoing hot war in which americans (and many more non-americans) will be dying :mad:
 
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