Worlds Copenhagen 2011

[greenedge]

I don't think Goss would be a surprise. One of the top 5 favourites, IMO, because he's won uphill sprints against strong fields. He beat Farrar a couple of times.

What about Farrar? Normally he'd be a strong candidate FTW, but his team looks weak, and he seems understandably uninterested this year. Still a dark horse, though, or...

I think Farrar can't be underestimated. he can be dangerous. His team is not that bad???

I referred to Goss' undesirable preperation due to his stomach problems. He has had them since the TDF. It will hinder him. Therefore by surprise i meant pull something out of the bag, which is what he should have done if he had ideal prep. Of course it could just be White being sneaky.

 

[greenedge]

I think the winner will be somewhere between the EBH/Sagan/Friere sprinters and the Cav/Farrar. Goss fits the profile.

Goss FTW

I think Sagan could become comparable to Cav within another 2 years. ( 2nd to Kittel in Poland in a flat sprint shows a lot of different talents/ roles he can fufill ) He just owns everywhere. He is also very astute/ tactically smart.

 

[greenedge]

From that Procycling No vid it tells me the finale shall not be a good place to watch it. It seems dull and i wonder where all the people will fit. At least at Geelong there were streets next to the finishing straight.

 

[woodie]

If Cav can win through hiding in the bunch and from a sprint then good him. It's up to the other teams to make the pace as hard as possible so that doesn't eventuate.

Exactly! Thank you! It's up to the non sprinters to drop the sprinters, if Cav and other sprinters hide in the bunch and don't get dropped then thats the attackers fault, not the sprinters.

 

[Fus087]

Negatives
1. The final hill is definitely not ideal for Cav. OK, he won MSR, the Poggio is clearly harder than the final hill here, but it's several km from the finish and not 100-200m.

The finish line is literally at the top of the hill. There are at most 50 m where the gradient goes down from ~4% to ~2%, but never 100-200 m.

 

[auscyclefan94]

If Cav can win through hiding in the bunch and from a sprint then good him. It's up to the other teams to make the pace as hard as possible so that doesn't eventuate.

Yes but I would hate to see someone who just sits in the bunch having an easy ride winning the World Championships. I would hope that the winner has to really work for it like Thor had to do in Melbourne/Geelong.

 

[Sleimas]

Maybe someone could explain how road steepness is calculated. What does exactly mean, say 4%. Cannot find info about it anywhere.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Maybe someone could explain how road steepness is calculated. What does exactly mean, say 4%. Cannot find info about it anywhere.

Rise (final altitude - starting altitude) / Run (vertical distance) all multiplied by 100.

4% means that for every 100m horizontally travelled, the road rises 4m vertically.

 

[woodie]

Yes but I would hate to see someone who just sits in the bunch having an easy ride winning the World Championships. I would hope that the winner has to really work for it like Thor had to do in Melbourne/Geelong.

As Tuarts already said it's up to the other teams to make it hard. The sprinters know they have the speed to win at the finish so it's up to the guys without the finishing speed to drop them, not the other way round.

Sometimes I wonder if people here know how racing works

 

[Danskebjerge]

ROAD RACE

Men's RR Circuit Profile: (red lines are corrections)

And here's the description of the seven climbs:

http://www.danskebjerge.dk/artikler-vmruten3-en.htm

/Danskebjerge.dk

 

[l.Harm]

Climbs?

 

[El Pistolero]

Well being a party boy has worked for him pretty well. Look at his results in the past two seasons.

2010
4 Tour of Qatar, Stage 6 : Al Wakra - Doha Corniche
2 Giro d'Italia, Stage 2 : Amsterdam (Ned) - Utrecht (Ned)
1 Giro d'Italia, Stage 9 : Frosinone - Cava de' Tirreni
1 Philadelphia International Championship
1 Danmark Rundt / Tour of Denmark, Stage 1 : Holstebro - Holstebro
2 Post Danmark Rundt / Tour of Denmark, Stage 4 : Nyborg - Odense
1 GP Ouest France - Plouay

2011
2 National Championships Australia (Buninyong) R.R.
1 Tour Down Under, Criterium : Cancer Council Classic
1 Tour Down Under, Stage 1 : Mawson Lakes - Angaston
3 Tour Down Under, Stage 3 : Unley - Stirling
5 Tour Down Under, Stage 4 : Norwood - Strathalbyn
3 Tour Down Under, Stage 5 : McLaren Vale - Willunga
3 Tour Down Under, Stage 6 : Adelaide City Circuit
2 Tour Down Under
1 Tour Down Under, Points classification
1 Tour of Oman, Stage 2 : Muscat - Al Wutayya
3 Tour of Oman, Stage 3 : Sur - Sur
2 Paris - Nice, Stage 2 : Montfort-l’Amaury - Amilly
1 Paris - Nice, Stage 3 : Cosne-Cours-sur-Loire - Nuits-Saint-Georges
1 Milano - Sanremo
3 Tour of California, Stage 2 : Nevada City - Sacramento
1 Tour of California, Stage 8 : Santa Clarita - Thousand Oaks
2 Tour de Suisse, Stage 8 : Tübach - Schaffhausen
2 Tour de France, Stage 6 : Dinan - Lisieux

I find it hard to believe he'll have a crappy season. Gossy is a consistent, solid peformer.

Goss is not consistent. After his Milan-San Remo he sucked. Wins in Tour of California don't change that and getting second in a Tour stage don't change the fact that he sucked there either. Luis Leon even won a stage and his form was and still is crappy. You can practically highlight the race after which he started partying

 

[Descender]

I'm gonna post a description of my garage ramp and call it a climb.

 

[Tuarts]

ROAD RACE

Men's RR Circuit Profile: (red lines are corrections)

And here's the description of the seven climbs:

http://www.danskebjerge.dk/artikler-vmruten3-en.htm

/Danskebjerge.dk

Great site, thanks for all the info!

 

[Kazistuta]

Climbs?

Yes, Denmark is a very mountainy country

 

[RedheadDane]

Yes, Denmark is a very mountainy country

Totally... I think I only have a few 100 metres of complete flat on my way to school.

 

[Fus087]

Yes, Denmark is a very mountainy country

I've always maintained the point that Denmark isn't flat. It's low.
In many parts of the country you don't see long stretches of really flat road, it's a constant (but very small) up-and-down.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Alright, here's my prediction:

Time trial:
1 Martin
2 Cancellara
3 Grabsch
4 Wiggins
5 Millar
6 Larsson

Women:
1 Johansson
2 Vos
3 Cooke

Men:
1 Cavendish
2 Greipel
3 Farrar
4 Bennati
5 Hushovd
6 Gilbert
7 Goss
8 Boasson Hagen
9 Cancellara
10 Rojas

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

My only prediction I'm 100% certain of

Women RR
1.
2. Vos
3.

 

[luckyboy]

Men:
1 Cavendish
2 Greipel
3 Farrar
4 Bennati
5 Hushovd
6 Gilbert
7 Goss
8 Boasson Hagen
9 Cancellara
10 Rojas

Looks like I can just tune in for the last 5km this year then

 

[Pantani_lives]

Looks like I can just tune in for the last 5km this year then

And miss Johnny Hoogerland's attack on one of those massive Danish climbs?

 

[Lupetto]

Startlists for tomorrow are online now.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Looks like I can just tune in for the last 5km this year then

Perfect... for lunch break at work.

 

[Tank Engine]

The finish line is literally at the top of the hill. There are at most 50 m where the gradient goes down from ~4% to ~2%, but never 100-200 m.

Fair enough. Looking at the video the final part of the climb is certainly less steep than the average. The profile(s) are rather misleading.

Re: Goss. I overlooked him since he's been under the radar due to pulling out of the Vuelta early. It does look a good finish for him and the Australian team is built around him. From what I read on the website, I guess he got the same bug as Cavendish after turning up for a meal an hour late. If so, he may well be a factor, since Cav looks to be in reasonable form (although the ToB maybe isn't the greatest race to judge that from).

 

[lukinox]

Has been a while since my last post. Couldn't be bothered to read all the posts. Has anyone mentioned P.Sagan? He's in super form at the moment and the slight uphill finish really suits him, has he got the legs to last a long race? Is it worth putting some money on him as an outsider, I bet the odds are really good. I need some advice, thanks guys