WT - Amstel Gold Race - Sunday 14 April 2013

[l.Harm]

Sagan would have won if he didn't have cramps obviously.

 

[TomasC]

Does anyone know how much time on the peloton had Kreuziger at the start of the Cauberg or therabouts? He won with 22s and the CN article says he was told he had 15s at the base of the Cauberg. Surely he didn't go the climb and finishing flat faster than Gilbert and the chasing group?

 

[DominicDecoco]

This race really is avarage. Good win by Kreuziger, though.

 

[search]

Does anyone know how much time on the peloton had Kreuziger at the start of the Cauberg or therabouts?

about ~40 seconds

 

[argyllflyer]

Does anyone know how much time on the peloton had Kreuziger at the start of the Cauberg or therabouts? He won with 22s and the CN article says he was told he had 15s at the base of the Cauberg. Surely he didn't go the climb and finishing flat faster than Gilbert and the chasing group?

He had 30 secs going in, was cut to 10 by the top of it then Gilbert etc dithered.

 

[Parrulo]

Does anyone know how much time on the peloton had Kreuziger at the start of the Cauberg or therabouts? He won with 22s and the CN article says he was told he had 15s at the base of the Cauberg. Surely he didn't go the climb and finishing flat faster than Gilbert and the chasing group?

he had 25 seconds on the breakaway group, 30 on hermans and like 35 on the peloton

source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UgbXWlk7dE&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[roundabout]

A bit under 40 seconds at the left turn at the start of the climb

15 seconds at 1km to go

 

[TomasC]

Thanks guys!

 

[Ruudz0r]

Anyone knows what happened to Dan Martin?

 

[armchairclimber]

Not quite as exciting/impressive as last week but still pretty good. Valour beat discretion hands down today.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I've always wondered, and especially now that the Vuelta a Castilla y León has been raced again, if it would be so difficult to simply put sensors on the riders' bikes and then a couple of pick-up points along the road, including of course on the finish line, so that we had instant knowledge of the standings/results.

With the transponders (they already have them, although they are seldom used for the kind of instantaneous results that we get at País Vasco or Castilla y León) there ought to be nothing stopping this. After all, we see the same kind of 'real time' data going past timechecks in every single event on the cross-country skiing/biathlon/nordic combined calendar. We saw it in Mendrisio and Geelong at the Worlds as well, so it's clearly not impossible for cycling. Maybe financial constraints make it a bit difficult to do every kilometre or what have you, but certainly on events with circuits you could have a couple of points on the circuit where the timings are picked up instantly. This could become a key part of coverage for circuit-based World Tour races like Montréal, Quebec and Plouay, and even a race like the Ronde, since they do the circuit with a couple of climbs several times at the end. Put one timecheck at the start of the Oude Kwaremont, one at the end, and one after the Paterberg. Let us know not just who's in what group and the timecheck, but how well they're placed in the group too - are they clinging to the back or are they having to fight their way back on, etc.

 

[Motion]

Astana baddest race ever. They have 6 guys in the front and did nothing. They can forget about last years success with this tactic.

 

[will10]

Just caught up, nice edition this year. Kreuzi timed that move well. Just seemed no team had the numbers and/or the motivation to bring that group back. Could make for an interesting Liege (and Fleche to some extent, although anticipation never seems to work there these days).

 

[SKSemtex]

Very poor almost "SKYLISH" performance from Cannondale today. What the hell was Moser training so much last month.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Astana baddest race ever. They have 6 guys in the front and did nothing. They can forget about last years success with this tactic.

they ledout Gaspa perfectly but he did not have the legs to finish it off (he had both Fuglsnag and Gavazzi with him over the top to do a lead out for him)

 

[postmanhat]

Ahoj Kreuziger. And also to Astarloza for making it all possible? Seemed liked some of the teams didn't know what to with a break lasting so deep into the race

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Astana baddest race ever. They have 6 guys in the front and did nothing. They can forget about last years success with this tactic.

Grivko was in the break, that's why they sat back until he was dropped from it.

 

[Wunengzi]

Great win by Kreuziger, he deserved it.

Though, I'm curious what would've happened if Purito didn't fell. There were some Katusha guys left, and maybe closed the gap if he was still there - after all, they were helping the chase before the incident.

But hope his contusions won't stop him from riding Wednesday. It would be a pity if he can't defend his title. But I'm afraid his chances for a second victory are gone this year. But it promises to be a great bunch sprint nonetheless. Looking forward to the progression Phil has made by then.

 

[will10]

Did Quintana crash?

 

[Wergeland]

I've always wondered, and especially now that the Vuelta a Castilla y León has been raced again, if it would be so difficult to simply put sensors on the riders' bikes and then a couple of pick-up points along the road, including of course on the finish line, so that we had instant knowledge of the standings/results.

TV coverage of cycling is so bad I've stopped complaining a long time ago. TdF is ok (compared to other sports), all spanish races are horrible.

 

[SafeBet]

Italians need to step up in Fleche and LBL or this might the worst classic season ever for them.

Yeah I know about Paolini and Gatto but seriously this is pathetic.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Hats off to Nicki Sörensen today... 14th, finishing in first chase group!
He said he´s too old for riding the Tour, he and Riis maybe should rethink this, though I know a one day race isn´t compareable to the hardest of the three week stage races.

But Sörensen´s race today was as impressive as Tosatto last year in Roubaix. Just look with who he finished today, and beat also really big names. Strong performance, chapeau. A hard Dane, solid and reliable for so many years.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Great win by Kreuziger, he deserved it.

Though, I'm curious what would've happened if Purito didn't fell. There were some Katusha guys left, and maybe closed the gap if he was still there - after all, they were helping the chase before the incident.

They would have done like everyone else. Waiting for Cannondale to do the work not knowing Sagan didn't have the best day. 2:25 to Asterloza with 25km to go was every evidence of a peloton that had little control of what happend up front.

 

[TANK91]

Anyone know if Sagan was in the race today?

Ha ha what a obsessive person you are Sagan Sagan and more friggin Sagan lol.

 

[Der Effe]

I haven't read the entire thread but instead of the blablablabal whine whine whine people have been doing you could also say 'Wooooooow Kreuziger, you're the man. Great victory you pulled off there. Respect'. That's the way I would like to end my evening.