Don't think cance could have dropped sagan today. The latter was simply stronger, as the ending TT match showed. 9 times out of 10 sagan loses. Not today. Also he lost virtually no ground on the paterberg at all.
I think Stannard should be good at Roubaix too. His attack to try and bridge was pretty impressive, was absolutely charging up the Koppenberg, but ultimately didn't make it. But yeah, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rowe is Sky's best rider again next Sunday. Another top 5 is realistic.Orbit501 said:benzwire said:Paris-Roubaix is going to be a good one! Can't wait....
I know there's a lot of Sky hate on here, but I make no apologies for saying Rowe has a good chance for a serious result there. Knew it before today, but today's result just confirmed that really.
Canceralla clearly rode faster than Sagan on the second last climb, when he attacked the first time, but he died a little bit at the end and terpsta etc caught him.SeriousSam said:I don't know. Sagan looked mightily impressive there too.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
I don't think he thought Sagan would be that strong. His tactics weren't terrible, Sagan and co. went very early. Sagan ended up doing the lion's share of the work for 40+km. I think Devolder fading accompanied by no other teams helping (Either because they wanted to wear down Canc or because they felt Kwiat and Stijn (Sky and Etixx respectively) were capable finishers, most likely the former) allowed the gap to go out farther than Canc would have ideally preferred, but once they had 20 seconds he had no choice but to wait for the Kwaremont. At that point he just wasn't strong enough. BMC crashing out probably changed the entire complexion of this race but ultimately Sagan was just incredibly dominant and deserved this win.PremierAndrew said:I just don't understand. There were two riders who could realistically have challenged him today. One crashed out, so he literally had one man to mark, and he lets him go. Horrible horrible mistakeCance > TheRest said:Big mistake tactically. It cost him the chance of truly competing for victory, but a heroic attempt to fight back.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
Paris Roubaix still to come. There's a 2nd chance
You are very convinced. I think you are alone on that, besides maybe Cance > Rest.PremierAndrew said:Sagan managed to extend his lead on the flat in the last 13km. That was very impressive indeed. But canc closed a gap of 18 seconds on him in 2 cobbled climbs. Yeah sagan had already attacked, but surely Sagan wouldnt have been able to hold the wheel if they were both together going onto the Kwaremont the 3rd timeSeriousSam said:I don't know. Sagan looked mightily impressive there too.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
I agree. Cancellara and Sagan rode about the same time on the Pater, but then on the flat part Sagan was faster than Cancellara and Vanmarcke togethertogo95 said:Come on guys. Surely you can't compare their times up Kwaremont and Paterberg to determine who was stronger. They were in totally different positions. Canc needed to get up to Sagan as soon as possible, while Sagan knew he might have to go all the way alone so he'd better measure his efforts. On Kwaremont he had Vanmarcke on his wheel as well.
Sagan was allready on the attack for over 10km and he only had to sustain his lead instead of trying to close a gap.rm7 said:Canceralla clearly rode faster than Sagan on the second last climb, when he attacked the first time, but he died a little bit at the end and terpsta etc caught him.SeriousSam said:I don't know. Sagan looked mightily impressive there too.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
On the last climb they rode equally I think.
He should be celebrating. Peter and Bertie are the only bright spots in the absolute mess Tinkoff has turned the team into ever since booting Bjarne out.Red Rick said:Meanwhile, Tinkoff still hasn't exploded on twitter
Dayer Quintana finishing ahead of Cance in Milano-Sanremo was even crazier.togo95 said:Juraj Sagan in top 50 in RVV, now we've seen everything![]()
He's in Thailand, so he probably slept through itCheckMyPecs said:He should be celebrating. Peter and Bertie are the only bright spots in the absolute mess Tinkoff has turned the team into ever since booting Bjarne out.Red Rick said:Meanwhile, Tinkoff still hasn't exploded on twitter
No way. Sagan was doing work in front for several kms already while Fabian followed wheels behind. He had Devolder, Katusha and Astana doing the chase. And Sagan clearly showed who was the strongest rider in the last 12km. Remember 2013 what a huge difference Cancellara made in the last part which is best suited to his TT skills. But today he didn't stand a chance also with Vanmarcke helping him. So I seriously doubt Cancellara would have gapped Sagan. Probably the pair would have rode away and decide the winner in a 2 way sprint. But this way was a lot more exciting.SeriousSam said:I don't know. Sagan looked mightily impressive there too.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
he messed up right there. When your biggest competitor goes, along with other world champ, even if you think it is too early or the wrong time, you follow their wheels. You dont have to work but you cant let them slip away ... the lesson learned came too late for Fabian ...jaylew said:Canc (laughing), on why he didn't go with Sagan and Kwia - "I don't know, ask me tomorrow"
He did say that Kwia went at a strange time with Stannard still up the road.
Stannard was just caught actuallyjaylew said:Canc (laughing), on why he didn't go with Sagan and Kwia - "I don't know, ask me tomorrow"
He did say that Kwia went at a strange time with Stannard still up the road.
No he didn't. Fabian was never closer than 15 seconds on those hills. And that was while "resting" at that group.PremierAndrew said:Sagan managed to extend his lead on the flat in the last 13km. That was very impressive indeed. But canc closed a gap of 18 seconds on him in 2 cobbled climbs. Yeah sagan had already attacked, but surely Sagan wouldnt have been able to hold the wheel if they were both together going onto the Kwaremont the 3rd timeSeriousSam said:I don't know. Sagan looked mightily impressive there too.PremierAndrew said:Why Fabian? Why? Why would you let Sagan go?
Fabian was incredible up the Kwaremont and Paterberg, would have torched Sagan I think.
Great ride by Sagan tho, well deserved win
Yes.SeriousSam said:Cancellara had only 4 hours of sleep?
Full sleep Canc would have ripped Sagan for sure. Should be put into a footnote in the Wikipedia article of the race.
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