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108th Milano - Sanremo, 18th March 2017, 291 km, WT

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Hugo Koblet said:
The Barb said:
I'm still smarting from backing two riders in this last year:

Gaviria at $17 - Seemed to be cruising until he touched wheels and went down
Bouhanni at $11 - In great spot to begin sprint when suffered a mechanical. May not have beaten Demare but it would've been close.

I'll be re-loading on Gaviria although obviously the odds are not so attractive this time around.
Where and when did you get Gaviria at 17? That's very good! The highest I can see that he's ever been is 10.
Last year :) ?
 
vladimir said:
Hugo Koblet said:
The Barb said:
I'm still smarting from backing two riders in this last year:

Gaviria at $17 - Seemed to be cruising until he touched wheels and went down
Bouhanni at $11 - In great spot to begin sprint when suffered a mechanical. May not have beaten Demare but it would've been close.

I'll be re-loading on Gaviria although obviously the odds are not so attractive this time around.
Where and when did you get Gaviria at 17? That's very good! The highest I can see that he's ever been is 10.
Last year :) ?

He was talking about last year. Very much going to be on Gav even at 10. His win on stage 6 of T-A shows his form.
 
Zoophonic said:
vladimir said:
Hugo Koblet said:
The Barb said:
I'm still smarting from backing two riders in this last year:

Gaviria at $17 - Seemed to be cruising until he touched wheels and went down
Bouhanni at $11 - In great spot to begin sprint when suffered a mechanical. May not have beaten Demare but it would've been close.

I'll be re-loading on Gaviria although obviously the odds are not so attractive this time around.
Where and when did you get Gaviria at 17? That's very good! The highest I can see that he's ever been is 10.
Last year :) ?

He was talking about last year. Very much going to be on Gav even at 10. His win on stage 6 of T-A shows his form.
Oh alright, I misunderstood the post then, makes more sense now :) Gaviria @ 10 would definitely be a good bet, but that's not possible any longer.
 
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jaylew said:
So tough to handicap this one, but I'll go:

*****Sagan
****Gaviria, Degenkolb, Matthews
***Kristoff, Colbrelli, Cavendish, Démare
**GVA, Bouhanni, Ewan, Boonen, Trentin, EBH, Viviani, Felline
*Gilbert, Alaphilippe, Gallopin, Roelandts, Kwia, Swift, Bennett
Pretty good. I'd switch Matthews with Demare and I'd give Bouhanni 3 stars although his form is a bit of a question mark for me right now. I need to see how he does today in Danilith - Nokere Koerse.
 
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Although knowing that nothing special will happen until the Poggio climb, I'm one of those guys that stays in front of the TV for the whole race or from many many kms to the finish line. MSR has something special.

It's very difficult to predict who will win the race, but I'll bet for 3 guys. Sagan simply because he's the best for these kind of races, Demare who is on top form as we could see in Paris-Nice, and Kristoff, just because he's never the main favourite but without making any noise he's always there and suddenly....pam!
 
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So it's gonna be The World vs Peter Sagan. As the best defense is attack, i think Peter will try to escape at the top of the Pogio and never look back.
 
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sQiD said:
So it's gonna be The World vs Peter Sagan. As the best defense is attack, i think Peter will try to escape at the top of the Pogio and never look back.

With 6 km to go, probably headwind, flying peloton it is pissing against the wall. Unfortunately. An only elite group of 5-6 riders fully dedicated to cooperate that could weaken the strength of peloton to half might have a small chance after the Poggio.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Sagan should for once try to race MSR completely conservatively. He usually spends way more time in the wind and way more energy on the poggio than any other good sprinter. I think his main objective should be to win PR and MSR, since these are the two monuments which really suit him but which he hasn't won yet. After he has done that he should still have more than enough years left to try to win these races in a more attacking manner.

Edit: Since I want an exciting race I still would be happy if he attacks on the poggio, but I honestly don't believe that he will ever be able to win MSR after an successful attack. I doubt that he can drop guys like GVA or Kwiat and we all know how sprints out of small groups usually end for Sagan, when he has to work.
 
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If he waits for the buch sprint, he will lose to Demarre and Gaviria who will came back from behind with much more speed. GVA should work with him as he dosen't have a sprinter behind. But GVA is not strong enough, he needs someone as powerful as Kwito. The problem is Kwito won't collaborate with him. So it's really a dilemma !
His coach said that if Peter wants to win against everyone, he has to be 2 time stronger (which is the case this year). As i said yesterday, with Cancellara gone, he will take the initiative and go all in at the Pogio, descent like hell and time trialling to the finish. I hope so ...
 
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Escarabajo said:
Démare to hang for dear life and win!
"I'll be watching you"
demare.jpg
 
Gigs_98 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sagan should for once try to race MSR completely conservatively. He usually spends way more time in the wind and way more energy on the poggio than any other good sprinter. I think his main objective should be to win PR and MSR, since these are the two monuments which really suit him but which he hasn't won yet. After he has done that he should still have more than enough years left to try to win these races in a more attacking manner.

Edit: Since I want an exciting race I still would be happy if he attacks on the poggio, but I honestly don't believe that he will ever be able to win MSR after an successful attack. I doubt that he can drop guys like GVA or Kwiat and we all know how sprints out of small groups usually end for Sagan, when he has to work.

As much I do want to see him tear a peloton to parts I do not think it will be the case here. :sad:
However, MSR is the race where the attackers on Poggio cannot get more than few seconds and they have no luxury of playing the games with Sagan. They must fully cooperate and they know it. So in case that no team has the numbers in the break, his chances can be pretty high.
In 2013 it was a different story. Peloton was gone with the wind rain and snow and Peter was by far strongest guy in the break. He was so desperate to win there and everybody knew it and everybody used it. (even Cancelara - who looked like he was riding not to win but make Sagan loose it)
I do not think Peter is so desperate now and he can afford to "loose". Kiwi or GVA - his possible break friends are still without the monument, with no chance in bunch sprint so I think they can go all out. In that case, I do not mind any of them beat Peter on the line.
 
Gigs_98 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sagan should for once try to race MSR completely conservatively. He usually spends way more time in the wind and way more energy on the poggio than any other good sprinter.
I agree, in part. But he probably thinks he has a small chance (say 15%) on a group with the biggest guns (Cav, or Greipel) or a decent chance (say 25%) in a bunch sprint without them, versus being the overwhelming favourite (say, 65%+) on a reduced kick where he doesn't really have to do all that work as it's a (gentle) downhill to San Remo. So I think it's hard for him to sense that and yet not attack.
 
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SKSemtex said:
yaco said:
Sagan is underestimated in a bunch sprint - Has a number of victories against the top sprinters - Finally some of the top sprinter are dropped before the finish or don't even ride MSR.

Nombers of victories against top sprinters in one day race? Really?
Eneco Tour & Doha Worlds
 
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SKSemtex said:
yaco said:
Sagan is underestimated in a bunch sprint - Has a number of victories against the top sprinters - Finally some of the top sprinter are dropped before the finish or don't even ride MSR.

Nombers of victories against top sprinters in one day race? Really?

How many of the top sprinters will be at MSR - Kittel and Greipel are missing - Cavendish is struggling for form and has only won MSR once.