109th Paris-Roubaix. The Hell of the North.

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Well done to JVS.

I didn't think it was an amazing race, but it was enthralling, and a weird race on so many levels on and off the road (cobbles). I honestly don't know where to start. I was fairly angry for a lot of the race, but am now content with the outcome (backing the winner often helps there), and I feel a just result occurred - for JVS, for Garmin, for Cancellara, for the break.

Cancellara is his own worst enemy as far as chasing the break went. He wanted to bust up the peloton at 50km to go, so he must take responsibility for catching the break. I do feel sorry for his situation though, because there was little he could do by the time the others (mainly Hushovd) were sitting on his wheel. I think his decision to lay off the chase was the right one at the time.

Hushovd was very strong (proved me wrong, and well done to those who tipped it). He was the second strongest in the race, and could have beaten Cancellara today. His team won and that is a great result, but there will still be a sour taste for Thor. He is the world champion, he was in his best possible form, yet at no stage was he in a real position to win the race. Today was his day, I'm not sure he will get a better chance in the coming years.

Garmin's depth in numbers finally pay off. Amazing that some teams in the "Choose Garmin's Classics Squads" threads didn't even have JVS in them (I think?). As a team, it doesn't matter a great deal who takes the win. I was annoyed at them not chasing their own men when Cancellara pulled off, but could later justify it when I felt how strong JVS was. Weird when they actually did start to chase not long afterwards, but they won, so is there room for criticism?

That is not even considering all the incidents up to the Cancellara attack. Major players such as Boonen, Chavanel, Thomas, Pozzato, Leukemans all ruled out before the real action began.

I consider my earlier conflicts to be mostly resolved.
 
Jul 3, 2009
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Well done to JVS.

I didn't think it was an amazing race, but it was enthralling, and a weird race on so many levels on and off the road (cobbles). I honestly don't know where to start. I was fairly angry (leaning towards El Pist extremism) for a lot of the race, but am now content with the outcome (backing the winner often helps there), and I feel a just result occurred - for JVS, for Garmin, for Cancellara, for the break.

Cancellara is his own worst enemy as far as chasing the break went. He wanted to bust up the peloton at 50km to go, so he must take responsibility for catching the break. I do feel sorry for his situation though, because there was little he could do by the time the others (mainly Hushovd) were sitting on his wheel. I think his decision to lay off the chase was the right one at the time.

Hushovd was very strong (proved me wrong, and well done to those who tipped it). He was the second strongest in the race, and could have beaten Cancellara today. His team won and that is a great result, but there will still be a sour taste for Thor. He is the world champion, he was in his best possible form, yet at no stage was he in a real position to win the race. Today was his day, I'm not sure he will get a better chance in the coming years.

Garmin's depth in numbers finally pay off. Amazing that some teams in the "Choose Garmin's Classics Squads" threads didn't even have JVS in them (I think?). As a team, it doesn't matter a great deal who takes the win. I was annoyed at them not chasing their own men when Cancellara pulled off, but could later justify it when I felt how strong JVS was. Weird when they actually did start to chase not long afterwards, but they won, so is there room for criticism?

That is not even considering all the incidents up to the Cancellara attack. Major players such as Boonen, Chavanel, Thomas, Pozzato, Leukemans all ruled out before the real action began.

I consider my earlier conflicts to be mostly resolved.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
You wouldn't. Some people don't seem to understand that simple fact. (obviously you do)

I don't blame him for not working in the final K's. Hell, with his sprint and cancellara's strenght, he ought to just suck The Canc to the finish line. But refusing to work when he was with Ballan and The Canc, 25 seconds from the front group...The three of them loose the race rigth there. Same goes to Ballan, of course...
 
Jun 22, 2009
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killswitch said:
Yeah, Thor rode for the team, but he will never get a better chance to win PR with Tommeke out and Cance marked so closely (and in a **** team).

That is just selfish, people are encouraging him destroying JVS big chance lol ?? That would be ridiculous.

it is simple; spartacus attacks; thor follows. If thor wants a chance to win, he can try to bridge, but thor will be right there, and a big chance to win. If canc. doesn't (like we just saw) thor knows a non-working canc. increases his teams chances of winning majorily.

Excellent team performance.
And yeah he lost the group sprint... I doubt he cares he lost 7th place much.
 
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Cobblestones said:
In hindsight, I think Cance should have tried to bridge after all. Once he stopped working, he never caught up with the leaders. Also, he was able to ride Thor off his wheel in the end. He might have been able to do the same after bridging.

If he'd just kept riding Thor would have cracked. I can understand why he stopped though. I has to be very demoralizing to have people wanting to take prize off of your work. He just wanted to prove he's the strongest rider.
 
Oct 29, 2009
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dlwssonic said:
This was probably thors best chance to win but i dont blame him for sitting on the wheels he will get beaten real badly next year by the usual suspects.

It's Paris-Roubaix. We won't know what will happen, but something will happen. There is no "usual" on these cobbles.
 
May 20, 2009
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Cobblestones said:
In hindsight, I think Cance should have tried to bridge after all. Once he stopped working, he never caught up with the leaders. Also, he was able to ride Thor off his wheel in the end. He might have been able to do the same after bridging.

It's easy to talk about it after the fact.
Yet Cance knows his limits, so he was smart to cut his losses, and get 2nd.
 
Jul 15, 2009
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screaming fist said:
[...] except for Matti Breschel Saxobank wasn't that much better last year - the race situation favored Cancellara more.
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Yeah. The more selective race seemed to suit him. I think he did not really benefit from Boonen having bad luck today. Think about it: As far as I remember, Quickstep had noone up the road. This means there would have been Tommeke to work together with Cancellara. I think this would have helped Cance more, compared to how the race turned out. It just wasn't selective enough because of the break encompassing (brilliantly) team mates from BMC and Cervelo.
 
May 26, 2009
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Aw JvS

Ferminal said:
Garmin's depth in numbers finally pay off. Amazing that some teams in the "Choose Garmin's Classics Squads" threads didn't even have JVS in them (I think?).

Really? :confused:
 
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Canc was on his own though,so good effort by him.

Garmin got the win down to the guts of Vansummeren, tactics were better than last week that is true because they had riders up there and gave themselves a chance.
 
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I think it speaks volumes for the World Champion to ride in the interest of his team mate.

Thor and JV get the last laugh on this one.

And Van Summeren gets the coolest trophy in cycling!
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Hushovd showed that he does not belong in Cancellara's class.

I don't think that's necessarily true. They're in the same class, but at different ends of the curve. Thor was on top of Cancellara everywhere outside the last 15k. Thor did let Cancellara go during his final move, but by then, the race was no longer about Thor.