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That seems very risky. There is an 8 seconds difference between winning and coming second, and before today their mutual difference was just 11 seconds.
But of course, if he had done the deal, he had done the deal, and he did get rid of a lot of other contenders.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
That seems very risky. There is an 8 seconds difference between winning and coming second, and before today their mutual difference was just 11 seconds.
But of course, if he had done the deal, he had done the deal, and he did get rid of a lot of other contenders.
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It's natural, but a true sportsman would've chased 110%, hoping to destroy everyone tomorrow. How heroic would that've been? I'm disappointed in Sagan here.Netserk said:
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Huge differences in GC. Van Avermaet already at 46s at 3rd place.
So only Dumoulin or Wellens can win this race normally.
So only Dumoulin or Wellens can win this race normally.
He didn't even try and contest the sprint. So yeah. I don't know why eitherclassicomano said:
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Good point. I edited.
Sorry for my negativity the last few pages. It was a good stage, and I hope others were more able to enjoy it than I was.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Good point. I edited.
Sorry for my negativity the last few pages. It was a good stage, and I hope others were more able to enjoy it than I was.
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In P-R, this is actually correct. You cannot avoid them all, but trajectory and style of riding is very important on the cobbles.RedheadDane said:
Tomorrow will be spectacle between Wellens and Dumoulin, with Sagan to possible decide the race
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I don't know, but maybe out of respect? Wellens did almost all the work in front. Still weird with the GC difference in mind.
classicomano said:
I don't know, but maybe out of respect? Wellens did almost all the work in front. Still weird with the GC difference in mind.
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Are we actually sure Dumoulin gifted the stage? Wellens looked crazily strong.
Anyway; Tim vs. Tom.
Samamba said:
Are we actually sure Dumoulin gifted the stage? Wellens looked crazily strong.
Anyway; Tim vs. Tom.
According to Tom he was pretty much done for about 5/6km from the line and says Wellens was way stronger. And he's just happy he could hold on and follow. It was still 'kind' of a deal though. He agreed to keep working even though he told Tim he was emtpy.
The deal they made was to keep riding together until the finish, because they both knew they wouldn't stay ahead alone.
The deal they made was to keep riding together until the finish, because they both knew they wouldn't stay ahead alone.
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Perhaps. But gifts are not always concieved as a sign of respect. Remember Pantani-Armstrong.Samamba said:
Kinda makes me think. When it's raining and not too hot Wellens is probably the strongest rider in the peloton. I haven't seen any other that comes even close in skill difference between dry/wet. Maybe Kristoff but that's more so in cold weather...
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Did you actually watch the race, Sagan was doing loads of chasing, not much help from those with is, yo come across as a bit ignorant
Jagartrott said:
Did you actually watch the race, Sagan was doing loads of chasing, not much help from those with is, yo come across as a bit ignorant
Great entertaining stage. Bike racing at its best. Wellens in poor weather is simply incredible.
Sunday will be game on methinks.
Sunday will be game on methinks.
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The groups Sagan encountered were dead meat. Riders shed on such a parcours under these weather conditions are of no use to you, the strongest are in front. So expecting help from them is stupid (no teammates there), and getting frustrated because they try to stay with you is equally stupid. They're there because they were not strong enough to follow, so shed them and concentrate only on minimizing the loss. Ultimately, he would've been riding one against two (Wellens - Dumoulin). Dumoulin also concentrated only on himself in that Giro stage, ignored wheelsuckers, and it won him the race (and my immense respect). Sagan had a 'Flanders' stage upcoming, where he should be better than both Wellens and Dumoulin. It was not impossible.
Sorry del-boy - I'm not ignorant.del1962 said:
The groups Sagan encountered were dead meat. Riders shed on such a parcours under these weather conditions are of no use to you, the strongest are in front. So expecting help from them is stupid (no teammates there), and getting frustrated because they try to stay with you is equally stupid. They're there because they were not strong enough to follow, so shed them and concentrate only on minimizing the loss. Ultimately, he would've been riding one against two (Wellens - Dumoulin). Dumoulin also concentrated only on himself in that Giro stage, ignored wheelsuckers, and it won him the race (and my immense respect). Sagan had a 'Flanders' stage upcoming, where he should be better than both Wellens and Dumoulin. It was not impossible.
Great win by Wellens. Shame Dumoulin is skipping the Vuelta for WC, but on this form he could maybe win the worlds!
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GvA, Gilbert, Wellens, Benoot, Naesen, Vanmarcke, Bakelants, Stuyven, T(h)euns. Unfair teams.
Samamba said:
GvA, Gilbert, Wellens, Benoot, Naesen, Vanmarcke, Bakelants, Stuyven, T(h)euns. Unfair teams.
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