2011 Tour de France Stage 11: Blaye-les-Mines Lavaur 167.5 km

[El Pistolero]

Which ones?

Flat stages 45 points. Medium mountain stages 30 points. Mountain stages just 20. Intermediate sprints all before climbs and most of them are flat as hell. How can he possibly lose this jersey with stupid rules like that?

 

[Anonymous]

He looked around a couple of times to see where they were. It would have been to his advantage to wait for them for a short period, because it would have been easier for the break with 2 extra pairs of legs doing turns. He couldn't wait for ever though, because the peleton would have caught him. I don't think he did anything that any other rider wouldn't have done.

I think that there are other riders who would have been a bit more concerned with their fellow riders being hit by a car. Voeckler thought "great time to attack!"

 

[KassyC]

TeamGadret have pulled their last rider.

Too fatigued apparently.

Oh shame, was starting to like TeamGadret after the Giro, but it makes sense he might be a bit tired... it's tough doing a Giro in a solo team

 

[Mambo95]

It's not near the feedzone if he goes on the hill. The only people ****ed would be Cav and Cav's ego.

The feedzone is between the hill and the sprint (unless you mean he'll attack on the descent). He can attack if he wants to, I just don't think it will be particularly sensible or fruitful. My guess is Phil will see it the same way. We'll see.

 

[Grzdylu]

Gadret DNS today?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Sky forgot to get into the break again...trying to clean up the mess.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Sky miss out on break

Pérez (EUS), Boom (RAB), Grivko (AST), Delage (FDJ), Valentin (COF) y Engoulvent (SAU

 

[dlwssonic]

Sky miss out on break

Pérez (EUS), Boom (RAB), Grivko (AST), Delage (FDJ), Valentin (COF) y Engoulvent (SAU

they might be setting it up for EBH or swift.

 

[salixcycling]

The weather could play a big role for the green jersey battle on this stage by the way.

Anyhow:

2002: 189 starters, 5 withdrawals due to crashes, 2.65% attrition
2003: 198 starters, 6 withdrawals due to crashes, 3.03% attrition
2004: 188 starters, 10 withdrawals due to crashes, 5.32% attrition
2005: 189 starters, 8 withdrawals due to crashes, 4.23% attrition
2006: 176 starters, 4 withdrawals due to crashes, 2.27% attrition
2007: 189 starters, 9 withdrawals due to crashes, 4.76% attrition
2008: 180 starters, 4 withdrawals due to crashes, 2.22% attrition
2009: 180 starters, 5 withdrawals due to crashes, 2.78% attrition
2010: 197 starters, 9 withdrawals due to crashes, 4.57% attrition
2011: 198 starters, 16 withdrawals due to crashes, 8.08% attrition

Excellent - comparable numbers to go with!

The smallest number (for 2008) is within one standard deviation of the mean
The largest number (for 2011) is 2.5 standard deviations above the mean
Which puts it outside the 98th percentile.
Statistical signifance is generally the 95th percentile

So even if you don't think it is extremely unusual just looking at the numbers, the statistical analysis says it is

That's just a hell of a lot of withdrawals due to crashes.

 

[auscyclefan94]

They've openly said that they want guys in the break and they also had guys on the front earlier to chase back the break because they missed out.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Probably no chance for this break, but still, go Boom!

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Flat stages 45 points. Medium mountain stages 30 points. Mountain stages just 20. Intermediate sprints all before climbs and most of them are flat as hell. How can he possibly lose this jersey with stupid rules like that?

Utter nonsense. Before the race, we had people tipping riders as diverse as Gilbert, Cavendish, Hushovd, EBH and Rojas. We're half way through, and there's still 3 different types of riders in the race for green. It's been a highlight of the tour, so far, and promises to be interesting all the way up to Paris, unlike the Giro, the winner of which I can't even remember.

Cav has had a good tour so far - won 2 stages, lost another by a whisker, featured strongly in all intermediates, and he's still a fair chunk behind.

Given the above, why would you say he couldn't possibly lose it, other than to give you an opportunity to heap more scorn on him should he not win it?

 

[sublimit]

The next few days in the mountains are better for breaks, this will get shut down as usual.

 

[superconfex]

HTC already pulling the bunch

 

[El Pistolero]

Utter nonsense. Before the race, we had people tipping riders as diverse as Gilbert, Cavendish, Hushovd, EBH and Rojas. We're half way through, and there's still 3 different types of riders in the race for green. It's been a highlight of the tour, so far, and promises to be interesting all the way up to Paris, unlike the Giro, the winner of which I can't even remember.

Cav has had a good tour so far - won 2 stages, lost another by a whisker, featured strongly in all intermediates, and he's still a fair chunk behind.

Given the above, why would you say he couldn't possibly lose it, other than to give you an opportunity to heap more scorn on him should he not win it?

The fact that there's still 3 freaking easy stages. The only reason Gilbert is still in the game is because of the parcours. Next year the battle for green will be not as exciting as this year As the parcours is probably going to be super flat for the first week again and Cav will have won the green after day 7. It's the sad truth, but medium stages should give just as much points if not more than flat stages. It's the parcours that make it some what exciting now, but not the rules. This year's Tour is an anomaly if you compare it to other years(a lot more hilly stages)

And of course you still remember the winner of the Giro points classification. Don't be silly.

 

[Ragerod]

Utter nonsense. Before the race, we had people tipping riders as diverse as Gilbert, Cavendish, Hushovd, EBH and Rojas. We're half way through, and there's still 3 different types of riders in the race for green. It's been a highlight of the tour, so far, and promises to be interesting all the way up to Paris, unlike the Giro, the winner of which I can't even remember.

Cav has had a good tour so far - won 2 stages, lost another by a whisker, featured strongly in all intermediates, and he's still a fair chunk behind.

Given the above, why would you say he couldn't possibly lose it, other than to give you an opportunity to heap more scorn on him should he not win it?

It's not nonsense. The change in points increasing the reward for winning stages but all these difficult finishes have disguised this change and let other people compete.

 

[greenedge]

Goss, Farrar, Cav, Swift. Unless if a break goes.

 

[sultanofhyd]

Goss, Farrar, Cav, Swift. Unless if a break goes.

Goss won't sprint against Cavendish, not that he'll have a chance anyways.

 

[PedalCastro]

TeamGadret have pulled their last rider.

Too fatigued apparently.

So making Roche leader was a good choice, hopefully he can now top 10

 

[Jamsque]

Pretty strong break today, could be a tough one for the sprinter's teams. I wonder if HTC will get any help from Garmin/Sky/Lampre.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

looks rather wet from the feed.

 

[virandociclista]

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[woodie]

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[AussieGoddess]

The fact that there's still 3 freaking easy stages. The only reason Gilbert is still in the game is because of the parcours. Next year the battle for green will be not as exciting as this year As the parcours is probably going to be super flat for the first week again and Cav will have won the green after day 7. It's the sad truth, but medium stages should give just as much points if not more than flat stages. It's the parcours that make it some what exciting now, but not the rules. This year's Tour is an anomaly if you compare it to other years(a lot more hilly stages)

And of course you still remember the winner of the Giro points classification. Don't be silly.

next year I doubt very much that Cav will get green - he wont finish.

The Olympics are a week after the Tour ends, so Cav will do the easy sprints first up, and then leave once it gets to the mountains.

Actually - so will many sprinters I would think