2012 Giro d'Italia CQ game

[CQmanager]

Guys, I do agree with all your feedback. As stated before we started, this was a beta test and we will make it better for the future

I will make some changes for the Tour and the future

All feedback is appreciated!

CQM

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Guardini!!

Finally paying off

 

[CQmanager]

Still need to remove some non participating riders ...

Top 20 after stage 18

Rank Team Points
1. Eric8-A 500
2. dlwssonic 457
3. FF'Wilco 428
4. Handbrake 415
5. Kazistuta 388
6. Chris Schneider 374
7. Froome19 373
8. Nyssinator 367
9. Jancouver 354
10. Tjuhampion 352
11. gustienordic 336
12. Duartista 331
13. groomy93 326
14. Sylvester 322
15. Mellow Velo 321
16. fedaia 321
17. Maaaaaaaarten 313
18. Zam_olyas 304
19. hrotha 302
20. kdc10 293

CQM

 

[jsem94]

Lol, finally scoring a little with Guardini.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Yay, back in the top 20 with 8 riders

Thanks Guardini

 

[Armchair cyclist]

If the Giro were to finish after stage 18, the leading finishers would be:

1 FF'Wilco 1621
2 mc mountain 1496
3 gustienordic 1477
4 Chris Schneider 1440
5 Handbrake 1399
6 Froome19 1357
7 Hrotha 1364
8 Mellow Velo 1346
9 Nyssinator 1341
10 hilltop finisher 1294

Mellow Velo back into the top ten, replacing Geraint Toofast. Guardini gave a boost to Gustienordic, Chris Schneider, Froome19 and Mellow Velo, and to 16 others.

 

[Eric8-A]

I wasn't expecting to gain that many points in today's stage. But it's good to see I'm still in the lead.

 

[CQmanager]

Top 20 after stage 19.

Rank Team Points
1. Eric8-A 540
2. dlwssonic 497
3. FF'Wilco 475
4. Handbrake 467
5. gustienordic 455
6. groomy93 443
7. Chris Schneider 422
8. Froome19 420
9. kdc10 412
10. asdfgh101 399
11. Kazistuta 395
12. Damiano 388
13. Nyssinator 374
14. Duartista 371
15. Mellow Velo 368
16. Tuarts 367
17. Tjuhampion 362
18. fedaia 361
19. Jancouver 354
20. Maaaaaaaarten 353

BTW it would be good if Armchair cyclist wont post the expected final standings as it is spoiling the game for many ...

CQM

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

How is it spoiling the game?

 

[Armchair cyclist]

BTW it would be good if Armchair cyclist wont post the expected final standings as it is spoiling the game for many ...

CQM

Well thanks very much for your note of appreciation of the dozens of hours I've spent producing these updates over the last couple of weeks.

Will you be discontinuing the running totals on the season long game, that does essentially the same thing?

Do you really consider posting the running totals of what will be about 1/3 of the total scores for leading contenders to be more relevant or informative?

Opinions of others please: I have tonight's update ready (after spending a long time, again, calculating and checking it)

 

[asdfgh101]

Post it for sure, anyone who is following the game knows how strong they are in GC and will have checked the strength of the leading teams anyway. Your updates help to clarify the situation (and highlight possible late chargers)and during the Tour de France game when more people will be paying attention will provide a good talking point.

One question, do you include the projected points and mountains final standings in your rankings?

A final thought, more purchasing power will be required for the TDF game as there won't be the same GC bargains that have been possible for the Giro.

 

[CQmanager]

Well thanks very much for your note of appreciation of the dozens of hours I've spent producing these updates over the last couple of weeks.

Will you be discontinuing the running totals on the season long game, that does essentially the same thing?

Do you really consider posting the running totals of what will be about 1/3 of the total scores for leading contenders to be more relevant or informative?

Opinions of others please: I have tonight's update ready (after spending a long time, again, calculating and checking it)

Now you know how I feel .... spending hours or rather days of my time to get the site and games up and running just to get s**t from others ...

Your updates are cool and appreciated I just thought that since the GC is now somewhat done that posting the expected results is spoiling the game but if others are OK with it ... I dont really care

Not sure what you mean by "discontinuing the running totals on the season long game" ... weekly updates to CQ game? I dont think they are the same as calculating GT overall points

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Now you know how I feel .... spending hours or rather days of my time to get the site and games up and running just to get s**t from others ...

Your updates are cool and appreciated I just thought that since the GC is now somewhat done that posting the expected results is spoiling the game but if others are OK with it ... I dont really care

Not sure what you mean by "discontinuing the running totals on the season long game" ... weekly updates to CQ game? I dont think they are the same as calculating GT overall points

I hope that you did not intend that the way it reads: you feel as though you have been treated like **** by others, so you'll do it to me. I did provide the info you asked for the other day about riders that needed to be removed, which required lengthy research.

Weekly updates on the CQ game are scores if that game were to finish last for some reason, and through the course of the season will let some people realise that they are effectively out of the running, and alerts those who are in the hunt as to who their closest opponents are: so yes, what I have been providing is almost identically parallel to that within the confines of a one race game.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

(after some delay...)

If the Giro were to finish after stage 19, the leading finishers would be:

1 mc mountain 1525
2 Handbrake 1494
3 FF'Wilco 1472
4 gustienordic 1442
5 Geraint too fast 1401
6= Mellow Velo1390
6= Tuarts 1390
8= Froome19 1371
8= hilltop finisher 1371
10 Chris Schneider 1358
11 dlwssonic 1346
12 Whittashau 1340
13= Antonio Rossi 1310
13= kdc10 1310
15 Evansisthebest 1280
16 Damiano 1236
17 groomy93 1216
18 Hrotha 1205
19 asdfgh101 1117
20 Eric 8A 1089

2 days ago FFWilco was looking unassailable, but Intxausti's collapse through the rankings today hit them hard.

Whatever Hesjedal does from here is rather cancelled out by the fact that all the top 20 have him (HelgeBlender and Nyssinator, 22nd and 23rd in the rankings, have most to gain if he can't get up the Stelvio): Rodriguez, Scarponi and Pozzovivo are equally irrelevant to the battle as no-one still in the hunt has purchased them. Basso is in most teams: dwlssonic and Antonio Rossi are the highest placed of those who didn't select him. Taylor Phinney's timetrial will be of particular importance to Handbrake and dwlssonic.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

One question, do you include the projected points and mountains final standings in your rankings?

Yes: for example, those who picked Hesjedal are being credited with 576 points at the moment: 119 for his stage placings, 54 for three days tenure of the pink jersey, 375 in view of his current 2nd place overall, but also 28 points on account of being 3rd (25pts) and 8th (3 pts) in the red and blue jersey competitions respectively.

 

[CQmanager]

I hope that you did not intend that the way it reads: you feel as though you have been treated like **** by others, so you'll do it to me. I did provide the info you asked for the other day about riders that needed to be removed, which required lengthy research.

Weekly updates on the CQ game are scores if that game were to finish last for some reason, and through the course of the season will let some people realise that they are effectively out of the running, and alerts those who are in the hunt as to who their closest opponents are: so yes, what I have been providing is almost identically parallel to that within the confines of a one race game.

Sorry that you feel that way. All I was saying was that you are disclosing the final game results. There was no intention to treat you in any negative way. I'm actually happy to see someone else contributing to this game.

In my opinion it is a spoiler and I truly thought it was not right to display the final results here but since others are OK with that ... I dont really mind.

As per the CQ game, I hear what you are saying but on the other hand there is no adding "future" points to the game results.

CQM

 

[dlwssonic]

Taylor will storm towards TT victory and Ryder will win the maglia rosa.
For my first ever CQ Grandtour victory!!!

 

[Armchair cyclist]

Taylor will storm towards TT victory and Ryder will win the maglia rosa.
For my first ever CQ Grandtour victory!!!

But everyone above you has Ryder. What you really need is for Basso to abandon: then you are in pole.

Here is the Googledocs spreadsheet to see what other miracles contestants might need.

 

[dlwssonic]

But everyone above you has Ryder. What you really need is for Basso to abandon: then you are in pole.

Here is the Googledocs spreadsheet to see what other miracles contestants might need.

Basso did badly today and I have thomas.
Even with a phinney or pinotti victory I still don't think its enough I guess

 

[CQmanager]

Rankings after stage 20.

Rank Team Points
1. dlwssonic 576
2. Eric8-A 547
3. Handbrake 502
4. FF'Wilco 485
5. gustienordic 463
6. groomy93 451
7. Chris Schneider 435
8. Froome19 430
9. Jancouver 424
10. kdc10 420
11. asdfgh101 406
12. Kazistuta 398
13. Damiano 395
14. Tjuhampion 388
15. Tuarts 380
16. Duartista 380
17. Mellow Velo 378
18. Nyssinator 377
19. fedaia 370
20. Maaaaaaaarten 362
21. Geraint Too Fast 360
22. hrotha 359
23. Gubby Allen 343
24. whittashau 342
25. robreg1 342
26. AntonioRossi 342
27. mc_mountain 341
28. Sylvester 334
29. hilltopfinisher 324
30. vladimir 323
31. Zam_olyas 312
32. boomcie 307
33. georgeodio 298
34. minessa 290
35. HelgeBlendet 289
36. comodoro 289
37. EvansIsTheBest 287
38. jens_attacks 285
39. CQmanager 259
40. shalgo 258
41. the_fool_on_the_hill 255
42. Emil Brix 254
43. cackles 249
44. Il Gigante Geert 222
45. Connor Pass 218
46. TeoSheva 217
47. han-solo 214
48. Dasyboja 210
49. Timmy-loves-Rabo 210
50. Jpettersen 206
51. Netserk 203
52. yoand88 200
53. vcampbell 200
54. jsem94 197
55. taiwan 189
56. Armchair cyclist 188
57. Vitapen 184
58. antomeno 183
59. flyersdk 173
60. 18-Valve. (pithy) 171
61. togo95 171
62. Inkerboid 161
63. kirill-loko 157
64. Hugo Koblet 155
65. Gotland 152
66. Jakob747 142
67. search_ 133
68. LittleWolf 122
69. bassplayer88 105
70. ps10ispro 102
71. CasperVG 59
72. Danskeman 42

CQM

 

[asdfgh101]

Apart from Hesjedal all i managed to do well was cheap mountain riders (Rabottini and Pirazzi).

Interestingly i also really wanted Amador but made a miscalculation and thought i couldn't afford him and Henao (went for Pinotti and Carrara instead )

 

[Armchair cyclist]

If the Giro were to finish after stage 20, the leading finishers would be:

1 Handbrake 1525
2 dlwssonic 1483
3 mc mountain 1444
4 FF'Wilco 1416
5 gustienordic 1406
6 Geraint too fast 1366
7 Tuarts 1337
8 Mellow Velo 1322
9 Antonio Rossi 1318
10 hilltop finisher 1314
11 Froome19 1273
12 Whittashau 1273
13 kdc10 1272
14 Chris Schneider 1260
15 Damiano 1241
16 Evansisthebest 1219
17 groomy93 1210
18 Hrotha 1162
19 boomcie 1128
20 asdfgh101 1106

Dwlssonic seems to be in pole position: Basso, who is not on his team but is in every other bar 1 in the top ten, may well slip a position, losing 25 points, but more importantly, De Gendt (boomcie's team is the only other top 20 to include him) is poised to move up the rankings, gaining 45, 105 or possibly even 230 points. Tomorrow's favourite, Phinney, is on the team of both Handbrake and dwlssonic, making it seem unlikely that anyone else will challenge their top 2 placings.

Over to you for tomorrow's final rankings, CQM.

 

[Eric8-A]

I was expecting to hold on to my lead til the final GC.

 

[Handbrake]

Very interesting last stage.

In the time trial I need Rasmussen to do well where dlwssonic has Pinnotti.

On GC I need Scarponi to hold off De Gendt and Nieve to hold off Gadret and or try and leap frog Pozzovivo.

 

[dlwssonic]

Wow really didn't expect me to be in this position 3 weeks ago.
It will be a close fight between me and handbrake.