2015 Vuelta stage 10: Valencia > Castellón 146.6km

[TommyPlus]

Gap holding steady. Who is chasing?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Caleb Ewan retires from race, apparently.

 

[BigMac]

Go Lawson, Go Lawson, Go Lawson.

Every team with riders in the break.

 

[Asero831]

TGA

 

[classicomano]

Henao singlehandidly ruins this great breakaway.

 

[Orbit501]

Re:

Caleb Ewan abandons

Is a good thing.

Save the young lad rather then ruin him.

He's got great experience and a fantastic stage win to boot.

Now all eggs can go in the Chaves basket as well. Sensible move all round.

 

[TommyPlus]

Gap down to 1:10. Epic day about to be ruined.

 

[Flamin]

Re:

Henao singlehandidly ruins this great breakaway.

Other guys could have attacked, like Zoidl and Verona now.

edit: ticker going crazy.

 

[Asero831]

who is favored to win the Sprint now?

 

[dirkprovin]

Re: Re:

Caleb Ewan abandons

Is a good thing.

Save the young lad rather then ruin him.

He's got great experience and a fantastic stage win to boot.

Now all eggs can go in the Chaves basket as well. Sensible move all round.

Sensible move to "lift him" from the race. He's realistically 2 years away minimum from being a viable proposition to finish a GT.

 

[l.Harm]

Degenkolb maybe

 

[BigMac]

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

 

[togo95]

Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

They have Puccio and Boswell there too. But even if Henao dropped, there is still Navarro high up in GC.

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

They have Puccio and Boswell there too. But even if Henao dropped, there is still Navarro high up in GC.

My bad, didn't take a proper look at the break.

 

[TommyPlus]

Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a break?

Edit. Question kind of answered before I posted.

 

[Orbit501]

I expect some of the stronger break contenders would have had a word or two in Henao's ear, yes. They'd be better off doing what Zoidl and Verona done instead though. A massive group like that requires further attacks anyway.

 

[classicomano]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a brea?

Well not 1 *** minute, thats for sure. He singlehandidly dooms a 40 man break.

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a break?

Edit. Question kind of answered before I posted.

Thing is by putting someone high placed on GC in the break, they may end ruining their own chances as well. Their's and everyone's. Not saying I agree, saying I can understand.

Plus what mano said above.

 

[Flamin]

30 riders left. 1'17" on the peloton.

 

[TommyPlus]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a brea?

Well not 1 **** minute, thats for sure. He singlehandidly dooms a 40 man break.

Who is at 1 **** minute?

 

[togo95]

Yes, I don't think riders drop from breaks because of some unwritten rules when it doesn't benefit them/their team. But sometimes a rider's presence in a breakaway doesn't help anyone.

 

[Orbit501]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a brea?

Well not 1 **** minute, thats for sure. He singlehandidly dooms a 40 man break.

He was 3 minutes, not 1, and Navarro is only 5 minutes as well.

Different if it's a break of less than a dozen good breakaway riders all working well together, but I'm sorry, a 40 man group is fair game for anyone to go with.

 

[TommyPlus]

Re: Re:

The break can't be happy. Usually in this types of scenarios they will try to convince the guy high on GC to leave, but I doubt Sky are keen on being the only team without a rider up front, and therefore having to chase. That said, not cool having sent Henao.

Crappy unwritten rules like this re the reason most gt stages are so boring until the finish.
Why shouldn't he be in the break if Sky feel it benefits them tactically?
Should Navarro also drop back?
What would be a satisfactory amount to be behind in the GC before someone has the temerity to join a break?

Edit. Question kind of answered before I posted.

Thing is by putting someone high placed on GC in the break, they may end ruining their own chances as well. Their's and everyone's. Not saying I agree, saying I can understand.

Plus what mano said above.

I agree if it's the teams best placed GC rider but not in this instance

 

[slosada]

While I understand the usual break suspects, then if riders (read Henao, Navarro, Elisonde, etc) want to improve some GC positions, they can only try at the end of the stage?
What if Sky is preparing a counterattack (Froome, Nieve, Roche) in the last KOM? They want to make sure the rivals are tired.

Deal with what you have, best case for these guys is save energies and break from a smaller group closer to the end of the stage.

 

[Taxus4a]

Re:

Henao virtually 2nd in GC
at the moment

(no need for Sky to chase then)

Good break, we will see a good figth in Desierto de las Palmas. Too very good people. I d love too see Verona wining, but very difficul, stiill my favourite is Luis León.