2016, 70th Tour de Romandie, April 26th - May 1st, WT

[LaFlorecita]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

 

[rick james]

Had b&stard power cut with 7.5k to go...will need to catch the highlights

 

[Bushman]

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I think it's a silly decision too, but why would you blame Quintana? Of course he is gonna make a gesture, every rider in the peloton would do that if they were forced to swerve to the side and brake to avoid crashing even if the sprint was lost already

No. Not if you already lost the sprint. Every normal cyclist who knows something about sprinting would not complain afterwards.

We are not talking about complaining post race, we are talking about doing a gesture in the heat of the race because another rider almost rides into you when he should have kept the line. I honestly believe there is ONE rider in the peloton who wouldn't have raised his hand like Quintana. Thats the mental state you're in with adrenaline etc. when competing in a sport like cycling

 

[Angliru]

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Come on, Im not particularly fan of Zakarin but you can't ask for relegation here. He obviously tries to close his angle a bit but :
-Quintana had enough space left
-He had already outsprinted the Colombian

But such a terrible style on a bike haha

If these were two sprinters instead of two GC riders, everyone would be rightly calling for Zaka's relegation. No reason why we should have a different standard for GC riders.

I agree. He clearly deviated from his line with the intent to close the door on Quintana. If he, Zakarin, was confident that he had Quintana beat, he wouldn't have felt the need to swerve to his right as he did.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

There aren't any sprints in field hockey.

 

[saganftw]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

you now want quintana to influence the jury to reverse their decision? what the what ...jury is independent

 

[Forever The Best]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

There aren't any sprints in field hockey.

Way to miss the point

 

[AlexNYC]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

You do realize this is a completely different situation, don't you? In field hockey and many other sports, the referees are bound to make many wrong decisions in the heat of the moment due to lack of awareness. In cycling, the judges usually have a better view than the cyclist themselves.

 

[Bushman]

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I think it's a silly decision too, but why would you blame Quintana? Of course he is gonna make a gesture, every rider in the peloton would do that if they were forced to swerve to the side and brake to avoid crashing even if the sprint was lost already

Who's blaming Quintana? It's the organisers that have **** in their eyes

"Quintana is a whiner" "Quintana is a b*tch" "Quintana is pathetic" etc.

 

[Kokoso]

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Majka totally anonymous.

He always is ...but at least he was far better thna the whole of team SKY

What happened to them ...major fail

I have never thought Thomas is a man for the high mountians

Don't quite understand how you got Sky here, but speaking about it, Froome had a puncture and Nieve stayed with him, so not fair comparison.

 

[BigMac]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

you now want quintana to influence the jury to reverse their decision? what the what ...jury is independent

Not if they were influenced by Quintana and Movistar in the first place. Not saying it happened, but at the risk of sounding very cynical, nobody is truly impartial.

 

[DNP-Old]

CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.

 

[Poursuivant]

Great, that has cost me about £200

 

[carolina]

rules for sprinting are valid for all riders and all sprints. zakarin didn't obey one of the rules, so he was punished.

if he had already won the sprint, then that just means he was stupid and it just reveals his lack of experience.

 

[Tonton]

Please refrain from using "stupid", "ridiculous", and similar terms. Let's all remain courteous. Thanks.

 

[Jakub]

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Are you kidding me? Why would he do that? What a ridiculous idea is that? How does the jury's decision have any bearing on Quintana's decency?

If he has any decency he tells the jury they have poo in their eyes and to reverse the decision. No decent person wants to win in this way.
I played field hockey for a very long time, and whenever the referee made a wrong decision in my favor, I pointed it out to them. It's called sportsmanship.

Fleur, you have a good point, but today's about something else.
It's like a player is kicked in the ass in the penalty area. He was almost in the corner and didn't have any chance to score - still the team is awarded a penalty and rightly so, it's according to the rules. The player who kicked should have controlled himself, it's his fault.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Majka totally anonymous.

He always is ...but at least he was far better thna the whole of team SKY

What happened to them ...major fail

I have never thought Thomas is a man for the high mountians

Don't quite understand how you got Sky here, but speaking about it, Froome had a puncture and Nieve stayed with him, so not fair comparison.

SKY had a bad day ...that is what I said and as far as I know they were all competing in the same race ..so valid and fair comparison ...Geez

 

[Jakub]

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rules for sprinting are valid for all riders and all sprints. zakarin didn't obey one of the rules, so he was punished.

if he had already won the sprint, then that just means he was stupid and it just reveals his lack of experience.

Exactly. Or intelligence.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.

Would the jury have felt the need to correct the result if Quintana hadn't complained?

 

[DNP-Old]

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CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.

Would the jury have looked at the images if Quintana hadn't complained?

I don't know, I don't have some sort of Magic 8 ball. All I know is that Nairo isn't the one to blame, as he didn't make the decision.

 

[Kokoso]

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Majka totally anonymous.

He always is ...but at least he was far better thna the whole of team SKY

What happened to them ...major fail

I have never thought Thomas is a man for the high mountians

Don't quite understand how you got Sky here, but speaking about it, Froome had a puncture and Nieve stayed with him, so not fair comparison.

SKY had a bad day ...that is what I said and as far as I know they were all competing in the same race ..so valid and fair comparison ...Geez

Valid and fair comparison would be if they fight it out on the road, on their bikes Not when puncture decides result, that isn't fair.

 

[blackmamba]

Quintana is allowed to complain its his right and noone can blame him for it really, the jury decision was wrong but that has nothing to do with Quintana, end of it jeeez

 

[carolina]

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CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.

Would the jury have felt the need to correct the result if Quintana hadn't complained?

Do you know if he complained?

He almost crashed and raised his hand. That's a normal reaction. I've done that many times when riding my bike and a car makes a dangerous move that almost makes me crash.

 

[laurensde+]

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CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.

Would the jury have felt the need to correct the result if Quintana hadn't complained?

Anyone would throw a hand up without even thinking about it, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was Movi that complained afterwards, not Nairo himself.

 

[classicomano]

I propose the entire jury undergoes an extensive drug test before we call a definite winner for this stage.