2020 Milano-Torino - August 5th / Mont Ventoux Dénivelé Challenge - August 6th

[Escarabajo]

Finish at different place?

 

[Laplaz]

3 stars for Pierre '5 mins back' Latour is very generous...

Nah. Got 4th, so maybe even 4 stars would have been fine.

 

[tobydawq]

I guess it's more like a coin toss. 2015 Tour vs 2019 Vuelta.

I don't think so. In last year's PN, he was good as well.

And seasoned classics type wind monsters are always surprised how that little Colombian manages to do battle with them in the wind as well as he does.

 

[Escarabajo]

Vlasov returns the favor to Quintana from Provence.

Things change so much in 6 months!

 

[ppanther92]

He was hit by a car whilst training in Colombia - about a month ago. No doubt that hindered some of his preparation

Still. Tour to come in only a few weeks and the contenders probably on similar preperation levesl (unlike in other seasons), only the results count. I fear he is in for just another dissappointing Tour. Also Bernal/Sivakov > Vlasov.

 

[Escarabajo]

Good for Porte and Aru.
Lopez will be fine at the Tour.
Tejada surprising me.

 

[Bonimenier]

How is Vlasovs time trialing? He could finish high in the Giro.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

 

[Red Rick]

Finish at different place?

Yeah slightly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1291283271536521222

View: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1291283271536521222

 

[bob.a.feet]

Quintana's only hope now is for an unpredictable and open Tour. Hard to see him being the strongest but with a bit of luck maybe he can challenge

 

[sir fly]

That was a nice pursuit.

Vlasov in excellent form, apparently.
Porte about the same as few days ago. Martin very good on his reboot debut.
Latour manful as ever. Aru not bad but not better than in Occitane, Quintana has an excuse.

 

[Earns1985]

Lopez will be fine at the Tour.

How did you come to this conclusion?

 

[Escarabajo]

Quintana's only hope now is for an unpredictable and open Tour. Hard to see him being the strongest but with a bit of luck maybe he can challenge

I am skeptical of him now, I agree. But this time he could actually have a good excuse with his accident and being off the bike so long. Plus the hot weather. We'll have better conclusions after L'Ain. But, yes worrisome nevertheless.

 

[yaco]

I thought he - quite unnecessarily - was trying to bridge back up to the favourites' group because it would be cool for a guy like him to sit in a 25 man group with all the GC contenders after two tough climbs and in the bottom of the final one on a day where everybody was scared of the time limit.

But I agree that his level has been lacking since. Then again, better decision making and he would have a fourth world title in Yorkshire so it's not all bad.

Actually you are right about Yorkshire - Had good form that day and it was a missed opportunity.

 

[Escarabajo]

How did you come to this conclusion?

He is improving slowly. We saw that today. Plus I know that he disappeared for 6 months. He tried to do rollers but he said that he had a very hard time with that. So naturally I think he is out of shape.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

1	Vlasov Aleksandr	Astana Pro Team	4:56:39
2	Porte Richie	Trek - Segafredo	0:18
3	Martin Guillaume	Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	0:59
4	Latour Pierre	AG2R La Mondiale	1:29
5	Aru Fabio	UAE-Team Emirates	1:38
6	Tejada Harold	Astana Pro Team	1:43
7	Elissonde Kenny	Trek - Segafredo	1:51
8	Quintana Nairo	Team Arkéa Samsic	1:57
9	Herrada Jesús	Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	2:15
10	Madouas Valentin	Groupama - FDJ	2:32
11	Barceló Fernando	Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	,,
12	López Miguel Ángel	Astana Pro Team	2:54
13	Gallopin Tony	AG2R La Mondiale	3:06
14	Rodríguez Cristián	Caja Rural - Seguros RGA	3:09
15	Bizkarra Mikel	Euskaltel - Euskadi	3:43
16	Carboni Giovanni	Bardiani-CSF-Faizanè	3:48
17	Eg Niklas	Trek - Segafredo	4:16
18	Cherel Mikaël	AG2R La Mondiale	4:26
19	Ravasi Edward	UAE-Team Emirates	4:50
20	Castrillo Jaime	Equipo Kern Pharma	5:25
21	Eiking Odd Christian	Circus - Wanty Gobert	5:57
22	Iturria Mikel	Euskaltel - Euskadi	6:00
23	Bernard Julien	Trek - Segafredo	6:03
24	Rochas Rémy	NIPPO DELKO One Provence	6:06
25	Ludvigsson Tobias	Groupama - FDJ	6:08
26	Kudus Merhawi	Astana Pro Team	6:53
27	Cabedo Óscar	Burgos-BH	,,
28	García Jhojan	Caja Rural - Seguros RGA	6:55
29	Rossetto Stéphane	Cofidis, Solutions Crédits	7:29
30	Bou Joan	Euskaltel - Euskadi	7:42
31	Rosa Diego	Team Arkéa Samsic	8:20
32	Bol Jetse	Burgos-BH	,,
33	Skujiņš Toms	Trek - Segafredo	8:32
34	Covi Alessandro	UAE-Team Emirates	9:19

 

[Red Rick]

I am skeptical of him now, I agree. But this time he could actually have a good excuse with his accident and being off the bike so long. Plus the hot weather. We'll have better conclusions after L'Ain. But, yes worrisome nevertheless.

How long was he off the bike?

 

[Blanco]

I was rewatching the Vuelta 2017 a bit this week, Contador did that a few times himself to Nibali. At least twice it was

"Hey Berto, wann go destroy the Sky train"
"Sí, always any day"

Nibs: Attacks
Contador: follows

Nibs does a big turn. He looks at Contador, and then you can just see Contador going like "sorry man I'm so dead"

Contador or Valverde collaborating is such a rare sight

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

How long was he off the bike?

2 weeks, until 2 weeks ago i think.
But his DS said he had been resting for the past 10 days iirc.
If true, that would mean he's basically done nothing since that accident.

 

[Earns1985]

He is improving slowly. We saw that today. Plus I know that he disappeared for 6 months. He tried to do rollers but he said that he had a very hard time with that. So naturally I think he is out of shape.

Yes, but the tour will start already in three weeks. If he comes in later then Fernando Barelo who worked quite a lot then I wouldn´t say that he is on a good way for the tour...

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Contador or Valverde collaborating is such a rare sight

Formigal !

La Vuelta 2016 – Stage 15 [FULL STAGE]

September 4, 2016 La Vuelta 2016 - Stage 15 [FULL STAGE] - Sabiñánigo – Aramon Formigal, Sallent de Gállego - 118,5 km (Medium-mountain stage)

tiz-cycling.io

 

[Escarabajo]

Yes, but the tour will start already in three weeks. If he comes in later then Fernando Barelo who worked quite a lot then I wouldn´t say that he is on a good way for the tour...

Maybe not, but I am not worried about him. He can lose more time on his lack of tactical sense than being out of shape.

 

[Red Rick]

Formigal !

La Vuelta 2016 – Stage 15 [FULL STAGE]

September 4, 2016 La Vuelta 2016 - Stage 15 [FULL STAGE] - Sabiñánigo – Aramon Formigal, Sallent de Gállego - 118,5 km (Medium-mountain stage)

tiz-cycling.io

The only true Valverde/Contador brocoperation was trolling Cadel Evans in the 2009 Dauphine

 

[ppanther92]

2 weeks, until 2 weeks ago i think.
But his DS said he had been resting for the past 10 days iirc.
If true, that would mean he's basically done nothing since that accident.

But why? What is the purpose of this?

 

[Escarabajo]

I won't say resting the last 10 days but riding with his brother around Nice. Probably not putting too much effort on his Knee.

We'll know better in a few days.