2020 Tour de France route rumors

[Dekker_Tifosi]

one dimensional climbers route it is.

Funny because probably still a JV/Ineos TT/Climber wins (Roglic, Froome, Thomas, Bernal, Dumoulin) so it doesn't matter. But still... one dimensional route. Bit sad.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Profile of the Laruns stage (link).

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Profile of the Laruns stage (link).

Geez. Not quite a Pescheux Special, but definitely disappointing.

They should have skipped Ichère if the Soudet NE descent was deemed unsafe.

 

[dacooley]

as always in recent years there is way too soft parcours. frankly poor climbs alongside with a small amount of time trailing... too boring...

 

[hrotha]

Only one short ITT and it's on the mountains, too. And effectively on the last day.

Crap route, no collection of awesome stages can salvage this.

 

[RedheadDane]

Geez… welcome to the complainer's club. Let's wait and see, might still be a fun race.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Sorry just hate the ongoing massacre of TT's in the Tour the last 10 years.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

And the profile overview under this link (as always, only a few of the full profiles are being released). Biggest surprise is Beal in the Lyon stage, the sprinters really are getting very few chances.

 

[F_Cance]

I wouldn't call 36k a short TT.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

 

[gregrowlerson]

Sorry just hate the ongoing massacre of TT's in the Tour the last 10 years.

That's why Dumoulin - Olympic preparations aside - should continue to go to the Giro. Tour isn't worth double it like it used to be.

 

[ice&fire]

Sorry just hate the ongoing massacre of TT's in the Tour the last 10 years.

It's as sad as seeing the climbers almost systematically outclimbed by the TTers

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I wouldn't call 36k a short TT.

It's as sad as seeing the climbers almost systematically outclimbed by the TTers

That's nothing new.

What is new, is that the 'climbers' are also outclimbed by the same TTers. In 2018 Froome, Roglic, Dumoulin and Thomas were the best climbers. So.. that's really on the climbers that they are so incapable of even riding away from the TT-ers on 'their' terrain.

In fact, I wouldn't call current day 'climbers' , like Quintana, Landa, etc even climbers anymore. Just less good GC men.

 

[hrotha]

I wouldn't call 36k a short TT.

I had seen it reported as 22 km. This is better but still bad because it's a mountain time trial.

 

[Red Rick]

2013 Vuelta a Francia

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Stage 18 actually looks really good as a last Alpine stage.

 

[gavia88]

source: la flamme rouge

 

[RedheadDane]

Sorry just hate the ongoing massacre of TT's in the Tour the last 10 years.

And at the opposite end of the spectrum there'd be people complaining about too many TTs.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I had seen it reported as 22 km. This is better but still bad because it's a mountain time trial.

Wouldn't call it an MTT. It's around 30km flat/rolling followed by a 6km climb at the end.

They don't even do the full ascent.

 

[guncha]

Just one stage is 200km+. The good thing is that there are no 65km mountain stages.

 

[Red Rick]

one dimensional climbers route it is.

Funny because probably still a JV/Ineos TT/Climber wins (Roglic, Froome, Thomas, Bernal, Dumoulin) so it doesn't matter. But still... one dimensional route. Bit sad.

That was really aided by the large amount of tricky flat stages and a cobbled stsge right beforebthe mountains. Now the big engines have nothing in their favor

 

[Red Rick]

No gimmick mountaon stages
No Peyragudes
No Tourmalet
No Alpe dHuez
New climbs
Longest ITT since 2014
Few sprint stages

9/10 bois

 

[gregrowlerson]

No gimmick mountaon stages
No Peyragudes
No Tourmalet
No Alpe dHuez
New climbs
Longest ITT since 2014
Few sprint stages

9/10 bois

Queen stage/s? And I don't mean the climb of the beautiful ladies.

 

[sensations]

The look on Bernal's face after they showed the LPDBF ITT.

 

[Ferminal]

No gimmick mountaon stages
No Peyragudes
No Tourmalet
No Alpe dHuez
New climbs
Longest ITT since 2014
Few sprint stages

9/10 bois

No points for early mountain stages?

Pretty good other than the relatively pointless Pau/Laruns effort (I would have taken a Pau ITT repeat). Similar sort of stage rotation to my mock 2013 Tour IIRC.