Tour de France 2022 Tour de France Start List

[Mayomaniac]

Caruso has had pretty good form all year, certainly better than anything he showed pre-Giro last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a top-5.

Yeah, Caruso is usually one of those guys who does better in gts than in short stage races.
That said, the potential top 5 is filled with guys who should outperform him, if they stay on their bikes.

 

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That said, the potential top 5 is filled with guys who should outperform him, if they stay on their bikes.

To me it more or less feels like there aren't more than 10 gc guys anyway this year. But yeah, O'Connor, Martinez or Vingegaard is probably stronger. Mas as well, if he recovers from his crash. Doesn't mean that Caruso won't podium, of course

 

[Mayomaniac]

To me it more or less feels like there aren't more than 10 gc guys anyway this year. But yeah, O'Connor, Martinez or Vingegaard is probably stronger. Mas as well, if he recovers from his crash. Doesn't mean that Caruso won't podium, of course

I'd probably also rate Vlasov above him, tbh.

 

[hayneplane]

I'd probably also rate Vlasov above him, tbh.

If recovered well from Covid then i have Vlasov for 3rd with JV having to sacrifice JV at some point in the race causing a time loss in setting something up for Roglic.

 

[BigCoward]

GT is better on cobbles, better in TT and has far superior palmares in grand tours and just won the TdS, we aren't putting him above someone who has 1 podium and scraped 3 top 10s in grand tours?

That being said you can get Caruso at 175/1 which seems absurdly generous.

 

[ppanther92]

Caruso has had pretty good form all year, certainly better than anything he showed pre-Giro last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a top-5.

Lets see but he certainly has a very good constitution for GTs (as for example Kruijswijk). He finished 11th at the TdF 2017 and 10th 2020 already. And there his form was at least two levels below this year in week long stage races. So yes, agree, I think he will be good and even better than his already high level in the shorter race over 3 weeks. But that said, Pog, Rog, Vingegaard, Thomas I would intuitively rate higher. Martinez, O'Connor, Vlasov, Mas in his "basket".

 

[Phillip O'Garner]

Wright said Fred.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Lets see but he certainly has a very good constitution for GTs (as for example Kruijswijk). He finished 11th at the TdF 2017 and 10th 2020 already. And there his form was at least two levels below this year in week long stage races. So yes, agree, I think he will be good and even better than his already high level in the shorter race over 3 weeks. But that said, Pog, Rog, Vingegaard, Thomas I would intuitively rate higher. Martinez, O'Connor, Vlasov, Mas in his "basket".

It also has to be said that in 2020 he also worked as a superdomestique for Landa.

 

[ppanther92]

It also has to be said that in 2020 he also worked as a superdomestique for Landa.

And 2017 initially for Porte but thats only underlying the point even more that he seems to be build for 3 week efforts.

 

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[tobydawq]

If recovered well from Covid then i have Vlasov for 3rd with JV having to sacrifice JV at some point in the race causing a time loss in setting something up for Roglic.

This abbreviation thing is getting out of hand.

 

[Nostradumbass]

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That being said you can get Caruso at 175/1 which seems absurdly generous.
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Especially with Covid. it wouldn’t be completely unreasonable to see the GC battle turned completely upside down between Covid, bad luck crashes and other illnesses. There is enough of a chance where 175/1 looks good for Caruso and other riders with similar odds.

 

[postmanhat]

Quite a lot of additions/removals today, most notably not riding anymore;

Van Baarle
Trentin
Lampaert
Cavagna
Senechal
Chaves
Padun
Simmons
Verona
Bakelants
Vermeersch, G

Have joined the circus;

Rowe
Powless
Hofstetter
Walscheid
Arabanu
Garcia Cortina
Mozzato
Skujins
Oss
Ellisonde
Dombrowski

Can't imagine Rowe for Van Baarle is anything other than a forced change, perhaps Covid? They and UAE are looking a bit thinner for the cobbled/crosswind stages, but maybe it doesn't matter so much given their team leaders?

 

[Sciatic]

Quite a lot of additions/removals today, most notably not riding anymore;

Van Baarle
Trentin
Lampaert
Cavagna
Senechal
Chaves
Padun
Simmons
Verona
Bakelants
Vermeersch, G

Have joined the circus;

Rowe
Powless
Hofstetter
Walscheid
Arabanu
Garcia Cortina
Mozzato
Skujins
Oss
Ellisonde
Dombrowski

Can't imagine Rowe for Van Baarle is anything other than a forced change, perhaps Covid? They and UAE are looking a bit thinner for the cobbled/crosswind stages, but maybe it doesn't matter so much given their team leaders?

Glad to see Powless in.

 

[Samamba]

Quite a lot of additions/removals today, most notably not riding anymore;

Van Baarle
Trentin
Lampaert
Cavagna
Senechal
Chaves
Padun
Simmons
Verona
Bakelants
Vermeersch, G

Have joined the circus;

Rowe
Powless
Hofstetter
Walscheid
Arabanu
Garcia Cortina
Mozzato
Skujins
Oss
Ellisonde
Dombrowski

Can't imagine Rowe for Van Baarle is anything other than a forced change, perhaps Covid? They and UAE are looking a bit thinner for the cobbled/crosswind stages, but maybe it doesn't matter so much given their team leaders?

I'm assuming that this is because the provisional startlist is out? Probably not all correct.

 

[postmanhat]

Can Nairo Quintana win this?

Doesn't look like Arkea believe so. There's him, Bouet and Barguil for the mountains, and the latter has already said he's stage-hunting I think? The rest of the team are from Arkea's point-hunting pack for the flatter stages. He did look pretty sub-par at Occitanie, despite the best efforts of his doms.

 

[postmanhat]

I'm assuming that this is because the provisional startlist is out? Probably not all correct.

Probably not. I expect some will be a reaction to Covid, some to form (Powless), or a change of focus by the team perhaps (Arkea).

 

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Isnt this list from procyclingstats basically just their guesses, and therefore fairly meaningless as they have guessed wrong plenty of times in the past. And also clearly riders like Chaves, Senechal and Verona should be fairly certain starters, if no sudden covid or similar, that we havent heard anything about, just like Elissonde and Powless also were, the other day when they did not include them. Also riders now included here like Alaphilippe and Bissegger (that Like Andreas Kron also, still tests positive despite having no symptoms) are still uncertain to make it.

no, it's an official, provisional startlist, usually based on what the teams sent to the organizer:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540689794560401410

View: https://twitter.com/SaDefourny/status/1540689794560401410


but this doesn't necessarily mean it's more up to date. Valgren is still on there, for example, who is long confirmed to be out with injury. Some teams just send their file 3 months before the race, and then never again until it's final.

 

[Escarabajo]

If your times are correct, the only active one is Quintana. It shows how bad it used to be. But fear no more. We'll see new times this year!!!!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5hu-NG2uUk


I want to see a sprint up the first ramp!!!

 

[MADRAZO]

no, it's an official, provisional startlist, usually based on what the teams sent to the organizer:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540689794560401410

View: https://twitter.com/SaDefourny/status/1540689794560401410


but this doesn't necessarily mean it's more up to date. Valgren is still on there, for example, who is long confirmed to be out with injury. Some teams just send their file 3 months before the race, and then never again until it's final.

I had realised this and deleted my post while you were answering, but thanks anyway!

And yes even if it is an official list it still seems like a fairly outdated, and does not make us that much wiser.

 

[Lequack]

If your times are correct, the only active one is Quintana. It shows how bad it used to be. But fear no more. We'll see new times this year!!!!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5hu-NG2uUk


I want to see a sprint up the first ramp!!!

Is that the actual Didi the Devil @ 1:30, from 25 years ago? Darn, time flies.

 

[Lequack]

Jai Hindley coming for yet another GT win.
No Schahmann, who was out of the nationals already with Covid.

Also, NO VLASOV! Frickin, he was a sure contented for the podium! He was out of Tour de Suisse with Covid.

 

[Rackham]

Jai Hindley coming for yet another GT win.
No Schahmann, who was out of the nationals already with Covid.

Also, NO VLASOV! Frickin, he was a sure contented for the podium! What even happened, Covid?

Are you sure this is real?

It seems like a satirical account (with only 251 followers).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540593233381703680

 

[Aimar16]

Jai Hindley coming for yet another GT win.
No Schahmann, who was out of the nationals already with Covid.

Also, NO VLASOV! Frickin, he was a sure contented for the podium! He was out of Tour de Suisse with Covid.

It is not from the real Bora account. Fake news

 

[Lequack]

Okay I guess I got bamboozled, thankfully! Hopefully Vlasov and Schachmann make it, both were is super form.