Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d’Italia, Stage 20: Tarvisio- Monte Lussari, 18.6km MTT

[Krzysztof_O]

This is actually a time trial where idiotic fans could be highly influential imo. Because any interruption to a rider's rhythm on such slopes could be catastrophic.

There's still some hope for Primoz if his fans "help" G.

 

[Lui98]

Well I once won a Vuelta in PCM with Igor Antón by winning an intermediate sprint in Madrid, so I have nothing against it. Otherwise there would be no point in handing out those seconds in the first place.

Don't remind me of the stage in Madrid on PCM. I still have flashbacks of how I lost a Vuelta (that I had in the bag) to Carlos Barredo (with a fuga bidone) after I decided to simulate the last stage

 

[Andon]

This is actually a time trial where idiotic fans could be highly influential imo. Because any interruption to a rider's rhythm on such slopes could be catastrophic.

Slovenian fans with cell phones on 14-18% gradients where they can keep up for a long time... oh boy, it's going to get nasty

 

[Rackham]

according to a Reddit comment from the climb, only Roglic did a recon of it on the bike this morning. Tossatto yesterday said that Ineos would do it in a car

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662384528244236289

View: https://twitter.com/reallyspoketome/status/1662384528244236289


Yes, he apparently did the full climb.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662384528244236289

View: https://twitter.com/reallyspoketome/status/1662384528244236289


Yes, he apparently did the full climb.

Not sure if that was the best idea TBH. If he had used a super-low gear then ok (but his cadence suggests it wasn't). We will know the effect in a few hours.

 

[tobydawq]

Not sure if that was the best idea TBH. If he had used a super-low gear then ok (but his cadence suggests it wasn't). We will know the effect in a few hours.

How will we know the effect?

 

[tobydawq]

So, first question of the day. Who will lead the stage after the first wave of riders?

Moscon? Ries? Williams? Pöstlberger? D Bais?

Probably Williams.

 

[DNP-Old]

Roglic was the only major name iirc to recon La Planche de Belles Filles, and we know how that went.

 

[noob]

Even the flat of this stage is false flat :O

 

[Krzysztof_O]

How will we know the effect?

Obviously we will never know for sure without a reference point. If he smashes the TT then there was no negative effect (possibly a positive due to knowing the climb better). Contrary, if he goes badly then maybe some negative influence happened (or at least knowing the route better didn't help).

 

[noob]

Cav doing this stage is so cool!

 

[Netserk]

So this climb is steeper than the Zoncolan, the Mortirolo and the Angliru, but also shorter. Does this make it the toughest climb in the history of professional road cycling? Or do you attach more importance to altitude and length?

It's not steeper than Zonc. Whether your measure is the steepest 200 m, 1 km, 2 km, 3 km, 4 km, or 5 km of the climb. In all of those, Zonc is steeper.

 

[Rackham]

Not sure if that was the best idea TBH. If he had used a super-low gear then ok (but his cadence suggests it wasn't). We will know the effect in a few hours.

I've been seeing a few comments like this but there's a 7-8 hour gap between his recon & actual ITT so... I don't know.

They probably know what works best for him.

 

[Jagartrott]

An appropriately farcical time trial to end a sh*t Giro.

 

[Netserk]

In the 2014 Monte Grappa MTT, Quintana not only changed bike but also helmet for the climb. Is it hot enough today for that to make sense?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Derek Gee today

 

[staubsauger]

Will we actually get images from riders on the climb or just random images from riders starting and finishing once again?

 

[Netserk]

More than anything, my greatest hope for this stage is that the overall winner will also be the best of the GC riders in the stage, preferably winning the stage.

 

[noob]

They show far too much flat and far too little climbing so far :O

 

[noob]

I want to see Cav climb k plz

 

[gregrowlerson]

Don't remind me of the stage in Madrid on PCM. I still have flashbacks of how I lost a Vuelta (that I had in the bag) to Carlos Barredo (with a fuga bidone) after I decided to simulate the last stage

Thomas not safe then even if he leads after today.

 

[Berniece]

More than anything, my greatest hope for this stage is that the overall winner will also be the best of the GC riders in the stage, preferably winning the stage.

Not sure if Thomas wins the stage but he would deserve it

 

[gregrowlerson]

Slovenian fans with cell phones on 14-18% gradients where they can keep up for a long time... oh boy, it's going to get nasty

Lucky for Geraint that he isn't considered particularly photogenic.

 

[tobydawq]

They probably don't have that many camera motobikes, and they can't send them down once they've got up the climb - at least not before the first break

 

[Sneekes]

They show far too much flat and far too little climbing so far :O

We all want to see the climb - so they should have sent a camera bike up with at least one of the first few riders.