Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia: Stage-by-Stage Analysis

[OlavEH]

19 isn't the queen stage. That's 13.

Stage 19 is very similar to stage 15? from 2007. Selection down to about 6 riders on the Giau, then little difference on the rest of the stage

On stage 13 you have a long flat section between the penultimate and last climb, and the climb to Crans is not that hard. If someone doesn't up the pace significantly already on Coeur, I'm not very convinced that we'll have big gaps that day. Coeur - Crans isn't exactly Finestre-Sestriere or Mortirolo-Aprica.

 

[houtdffan]

On stage 13 you have a long flat section between the penultimate and last climb, and the climb to Crans is not that hard. If someone doesn't up the pace significantly already on Coeur, I'm not very convinced that we'll have big gaps that day. Coeur - Crans isn't exactly Finestre-Sestriere or Mortirolo-Aprica.

But it is like the Stelvio Stage in 2014. The riders who were dropped on the Stelvio descent never came back, despite a long flat valley road.

If someone blows on St Bernard or Coeur, their giro is done

Even someone who is barely hanging on over the first 2 climbs, can lose minutes on the final climb. It is a legit cat 1

 

[RedheadDane]

Let me get this straight; the whole drama regarding stage 20 is because they "suddenly" realised that the road to the top is actually quite narrow?
Maybe it's time to implement a measuring-the-width-of-the-road protocol. Should be quite easy; just need some measuring tapes. Or, since it's 2023, probably some of that fancy equipment that goes "Beep!"

 

[KenFiamingo]

Let me get this straight; the whole drama regarding stage 20 is because they "suddenly" realised that the road to the top is actually quite narrow?
Maybe it's time to implement a measuring-the-width-of-the-road protocol. Should be quite easy; just need some measuring tapes. Or, since it's 2023, probably some of that fancy equipment that goes "Beep!"

Perhaps they can reuse the UCI's sock height measuring device!

 

[search]

Let me get this straight; the whole drama regarding stage 20 is because they "suddenly" realised that the road to the top is actually quite narrow?

Italian media is very silent about this. I wouldn't be too sure there really is a major issue.

 

[ashhutch1997]

But it is like the Stelvio Stage in 2014. The riders who were dropped on the Stelvio descent never came back, despite a long flat valley road.

If someone blows on St Bernard or Coeur, their giro is done

Even someone who is barely hanging on over the first 2 climbs, can lose minutes on the final climb. It is a legit cat 1

Or the Colle dell'Agnello and Risoul in 2016..

 

[OlavEH]

But it is like the Stelvio Stage in 2014. The riders who were dropped on the Stelvio descent never came back, despite a long flat valley road.

If someone blows on St Bernard or Coeur, their giro is done

Even someone who is barely hanging on over the first 2 climbs, can lose minutes on the final climb. It is a legit cat 1

Don't think I watched that stage. How hard was Stelvio ridden?

If there are only 5-6-7 men left at the top of Coeur (and not many more at the bottom of Crans) it could be a good stage. But if there is 15-20 or more at the top of Coeur, I don't think it will be big gaps at the end of the stage.

 

[RedheadDane]

Italian media is very silent about this. I wouldn't be too sure there really is a major issue.

I would hope not, because, surely, it's should be possible to find a solution.

 

[staubsauger]

On Wielerflits it says, there is a solution!

 

[houtdffan]

Don't think I watched that stage. How hard was Stelvio ridden?

If there are only 5-6-7 men left at the top of Coeur (and not many more at the bottom of Crans) it could be a good stage. But if there is 15-20 or more at the top of Coeur, I don't think it will be big gaps at the end of the stage.

the ascent wasn't ridden that hard. It was the descent where the race was made

 

[Didinho]

On Wielerflits it says, there is a solution!

Yeah they say on the climb every rider can get a mecanic from the team on the motard with a spare bike on his back.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Is this stage 20 fiasco a bit like a reverse of when Betancur would race for Movistar and they would only realise at the last minute that he was a bit too wide?

 

[staubsauger]

Yeah they say on the climb every rider can get a mecanic from the team on the motard with a spare bike on his back.

That's exactly what they did up towards the Kronplatz!

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRqlc7aCrY

 

[Netserk]

I'd like to see Kronplatz back btw.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I'd like to see Kronplatz back btw.

Just give us a TT where you aren't encouraged to change bikes.

 

[staubsauger]

I'd like to see Kronplatz back btw.

Would've been the better version of Lussari certainly.

They're already in the Dolomites after all. And they could've learned from the 2008 mistake and put the mtt BEFORE the big Dolomites stage!

 

[houtdffan]

Would've been the better version of Lussari certainly.

They're already in the Dolomites after all. And they could've learned from the 2008 mistake and put the mtt BEFORE the big Dolomites stage!

There was long range racing on that stage before the 2008 MTT

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Yeah they say on the climb every rider can get a mecanic from the team on the motard with a spare bike on his back.

I thought that had always been the plan.

But now I'm wondering what they will do for camera bikes. I guess only a small number of riders per wave will have a camera on them.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I thought that had always been the plan.

But now I'm wondering what they will do for camera bikes. I guess only a small number of riders per wave will have a camera on them.

I guess this also explains why there are three separate time checks on the climb. That's three spots to put a fixed camera.

 

[staubsauger]

There was long range racing on that stage before the 2008 MTT

No it wasn't.
It was the Sella show.

Apart from that, some testing the waters on Giau which killed Klöden. Then, waiting, waiting, waiting. Until some last 3k attacks from Ricco, Di Luca & co on Fedaia!

Just like on Pampeago. Only that Menchov surprisingly best from the favorites group.

 

[YavorD]

No it wasn't.
It was the Sella show.

Apart from that, some testing the waters on Giau which killed Klöden. Then, waiting, waiting, waiting. Until some last 3k attacks from Ricco, Di Luca & co on Fedaia!

Just like on Pampeago. Only that Menchov surprisingly best from the favorites group.

With such a hard/steep finishes you will often see a waiting game regardless of having a MTT or not.
Of course, tough MTT contributes but it's not decisive.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Whatever they do they should decide ASAP. Preferably before the Giro starts.

 

[RedheadDane]

I don't see what the problem is.
The mechanics got three weeks to get in shape, just run up the climb with the spare wheels on their backs!

 

[houtdffan]

No it wasn't.
It was the Sella show.

Apart from that, some testing the waters on Giau which killed Klöden. Then, waiting, waiting, waiting. Until some last 3k attacks from Ricco, Di Luca & co on Fedaia!

Just like on Pampeago. Only that Menchov surprisingly best from the favorites group.

Simoni and DiLuca tried to drop Contador on Giau. They nearly blew themselves up in the process, which led to the rest of the stage being largely soft peddled, except for Ricco on Fedia

 

[Gigs_98]

Why can't the riders just carry their spare bike themselves?