2023 Tour de France CQ Game

[Armchair Cyclist]

OK, I shoot first...

You weren't first: others submitted their teams more discreetly via PM. Good to have your team, but we usually avoid public discussion of our picks until the game has closed, so it might be a good idea to delete the post, or remove key info.

On the next edition, maybe we should put the cap at number one rider plus the lowest seven in the field so one can pick Pog against the World.

I would prefer to keep the budget consistent year to year so that we have comparability, but I am happy to set up a team of Pog vs the World team alongside the Collective Wisdom score at the foot of the table.

 

[bminchow]

OK, I shoot first...

Pinot 1153
Jakobsen 748
Carapaz 606
A. Paret-Peintre 460
Cavendish 329
Bauhaus 321
Fraile 192
Mühlberger 178 13 points to spare?

On the next edition, maybe we should put the cap at number one rider plus the lowest seven in the field so one can pick Pog against the World.

I will always pick Tibopino. I'm his #1 fan after all! Not many will, so that can be my edge in this competition. Thibaut can win. Obvious picks are Cav', he will go for 35, try and try again, and Fabio: the duse his fast. Carapaz: he's crafty, over-achiever and he won't be scared. Bauhaus is dangerous. APP is French and like his countrymen he'll be thirsty for glory. And he can deliver. Omar is Basque...enough said. Finally, Gregor is the Austrian Champion: he can Arnold his way to a win.

The Tonton team will win this bike race. The bag is wide open...

I would have wanted Matthieu: I couldn't afford him, but he will shine. And Romain Bardet. In the end, I chose Thibaut Pinot. I never gave up on him, I'm not going to give up now.

I think we just want to PM Armchair. So we dont see who everyone is picking until after the due time. Maybe you can remove this after Armchair notes down the team

 

[Tonton]

You weren't first: others submitted their teams more discreetly via PM.

Sorry, for me it's a game, like it was when I won the whole 2017 predictions. CQ game? I didn't know rules in rules '19 and didn't get Remco for 0. I won a week with Pinot, I will win another one, and hope that it's week 3,

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So there is a day and a couple of hours to go.

20 teams in so far, but I'm hoping for about double that. So far 50 different riders have been picked, with 5 of them on more than half the teams (and three teams having all 5 of them), while 2 teams are, at least for now, at least 50% unique picks.

5 different 1000 point plus riders have been selected, as have 7 bargains at less than 100 points.

21 teams now, one just arrived. Don't miss it.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I tried to make a team with riders named Alex, but there are only 6 of them (7 if you include Zingle). You'll receive the final selection later today (I hope).

 

[comodoro]

My Team


TeamComodoro


LANDAMEANA Mikel
HINDLEY Jai
CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO RichardAntonio
WELSFORD Samuel
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
BERNAL GOMEZ EganArley
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
CRASStef

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

My Team


TeamComodoro

I have it now: better not to leave it here and have others steal your good ideas, so you should delete it now.

Lo tengo; mejor que no lo dejes aquí, para vitar que los demas te robaron de tus ideas. Por eso, sugiero que lo borres .(Because I'm not sure whether Comodoro reads much English. In truth, it's probably far better than my rusty Spanish)

 

[rote_laterne2]

My riders won't win Le Tour but I will win this game.

 

[titan31]

I tried to make a team with riders named Alex, but there are only 6 of them (7 if you include Zingle). You'll receive the final selection later today (I hope).

Having had a look I don't think you can make a team just with the same first name using any name. What a shame

 

[RedheadDane]

Just wanna warn everyone! I am not being random this time, in fact; I deliberately picked 8 guys who each won a race recently.

 

[postmanhat]

Can't get past my self-imposed rule of not including riders from the season game, so might not have a couple of popular picks. Otherwise, I expect at least half of my selections to be on at least half of the teams. Or maybe the choices will be more diverse than some of us are anticipating?

 

[rote_laterne2]

Just wanna warn everyone! I am not being random this time, in fact; I deliberately picked 8 guys who each won a race recently.

There are many national champions who won't score big in the TdF.

 

[Anderis]

So far 50 different riders have been picked, with 5 of them on more than half the teams (and three teams having all 5 of them)

Why do I think I'm one of those three teams?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I expect at least half of my selections to be on at least half of the teams. Or maybe the choices will be more diverse than some of us are anticipating?

no, only 3 of them...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I don‘t think my choices have too much in common with others… On the other hand I didn‘t randomly select them either.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I don‘t think my choices have too much in common with others… On the other hand I didn‘t randomly select them either.

Half of them are in the putative Collective Wisdom team, so not that uncommon.

 

[Blues in the bottle]

Armchair, thank you for your tireless work in putting this game on.
Everyone, good luck to your teams and may all riders finish.

Just think right now we are all tied for first place, woohoo!

 

[Tonton]

I tried to make a team with riders named Alex, but there are only 6 of them (7 if you include Zingle). You'll receive the final selection later today (I hope).

You can get Zulle for cheap. Valverde is 418 FYI.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I never realised how un-fun the selection process becomes when the cheapest combination you’re actually happy with is exactly 1 point over budget. Ended up sacrificing Landa to make things work. Mikel, I like you, but please don’t do thaaat well this race.

 

[Northerner]

Back to defend the title from last year. Not had much time to follow the racing this year, but I wouldn't miss the Tour.

Good luck to everyone in the game this year.

 

[del1962]

Just submitted - hope not to late

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

You're fine: about an hour and a half if anyone is still juggling with their options. Up to 43 teams now.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

43 teams it is: here they are.

(Alphabetical by team, price order within teams, unique picks with an asterisk)

18-Valve	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BAUHAUS Phil
	KWIATKOWSKI Michal
Amis Velo	VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
	HINDLEY Jai
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	CRAS Steff
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	GOGL Michael
	PETIT Adrien
Anderis	BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	POELS Wout
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
ArchieBoy	CICCONE Giulio
	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GALL Felix
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	MOSCON Gianni
Armchair Cyclist	YATES Simon
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Berlus	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	SAGAN Peter
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
Bicycle Boy	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	WRIGHT Fred
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	KWIATKOWSKI Michal
	AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey	*
Blues in the Bottle	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
	HAIG Jack
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	GUARNIERI Jacopo
Bminchow	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Comodoro	LANDA MEANA Mikel
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	WELSFORD Samuel	*
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	CRAS Steff
Del1962	YATES Simon
	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	HAMILTON Chris	*
Devil's Elbow	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe
	TRAEEN Torstein	*
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
DJSprtsch	BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	CRAS Steff
	KWIATKOWSKI Michal
DJW	CICCONE Giulio
	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	VERMAERKE Kevin	*
Evans is the Best	VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CAVENDISH Mark
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	GOGL Michael
	OSS Daniel
	GUARNIERI Jacopo
Jumbo Visma Fan	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	KONRAD Patrick	*
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	VAN POPPEL Danny	*
	JUNGELS Bob	*
	DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David	*
Kazistuta	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	BAUHAUS Phil
	CHAMPOUSSIN Clément
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
Laarsland	LANDA MEANA Mikel
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GALL Felix
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	SIMMONS Quinn
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Leadbelly	CICCONE Giulio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	TEUNS Dylan
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Lecko	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	LUTSENKO Alexey
	ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
	LATOUR Pierre	*
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	GOGL Michael
Madrazo	YATES Simon
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Marek	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	LUTSENKO Alexey
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	GOGL Michael
Mellow Velo	VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	HAIG Jack
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	GOGL Michael
	PETIT Adrien
	GUARNIERI Jacopo
Northerner	BARDET Romain
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	HAIG Jack
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Peixotini	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	BAUHAUS Phil
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Postman Hat	YATES Simon
	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GALL Felix
	CAVENDISH Mark
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	OSS Daniel
Queen Stagiare	BARDET Romain
	CICCONE Giulio
	HINDLEY Jai
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BAUHAUS Phil
	BUCHMANN Emanuel
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Red Lobster	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	SAGAN Peter
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BAUHAUS Phil
	SIMMONS Quinn
Redhead Dane	MADOUAS Valentin	*
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	LUTSENKO Alexey
	WRIGHT Fred
	CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban	*
	BUCHMANN Emanuel
	MÜHLBERGER Gregor
	KIRSCH Alex	*
Ricco	LANDA MEANA Mikel
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Riverside	YATES Simon
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	RICKAERT Jonas	*
Rote Laterne	YATES Simon
	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Rufs	YATES Simon
	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	TEUNS Dylan
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Salvarani	SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	*
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	KELDERMAN Wilco
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	MOSCON Gianni
	GOGL Michael
Samu Cuenca	LANDA MEANA Mikel
	BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello
	ARANBURU DEBA Alexander
	IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	*
	PETERS Nans	*
	CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan	*
	IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka	*
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
Scrooll07	VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	CAVENDISH Mark
	POELS Wout
	CRAS Steff
	VAN DEN BERG Lars	*
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	GOGL Michael
Search	CICCONE Giulio
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	WOODS Michael	*
	CAVENDISH Mark
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	CRAS Steff
Titan31	RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Tonton	PINOT Thibaut	*
	JAKOBSEN Fabio
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien	*
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BAUHAUS Phil
	FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar	*
	MÜHLBERGER Gregor
TRiley36	VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
	KUSS Sepp	*
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
	LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
	GOGL Michael
Vladimir	YATES Simon
	HINDLEY Jai
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	LUTSENKO Alexey
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	CAVENDISH Mark
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
Yellow Knight	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	WRIGHT Fred
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	CHAMPOUSSIN Clément
	KWIATKOWSKI Michal
ZigZag Wanderer	JORGENSON Matteo	*
	HINDLEY Jai
	O'CONNOR Ben
	GIRMAY HAILU Biniam
	ALAPHILIPPE Julian
	BAUHAUS Phil
	BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland

At the foot of the table of results, below the Collective Wisdom team (more of that to follow) is a team as suggested by Totton, consisting of Pogacar and the cheapest other 7 to make a team (Pog vs the World)
That is made up of

POGACAR Tadej

REINDERS Elmar

AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey

GOGL Michael

OSS Daniel

PETIT Adrien

GUARNIERI Jacopo

average of JUUL-JENSEN and DEVENYNS

the last pairing because they are the same price. That group comes in at 4148, so it wouldn't be allowable, but if Pog does well it will show the potential of a team that is top heavy at the extreme.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Looks like I am one of three teams with all six of Rodriguez, Hindley, O'Connor, Carapaz, Bernal and THJ, the other two being RoteLanterne and Titan. Going to come down to Martinez/Træen versus Yates/Lopez versus Girmay/Cav between the three of us. With Træen already being a unique pick for me, that's a lot of reasons to root extra hard for him.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Riders
There are 176 of them out there, and 66 of them are selected in our game (I am not counting Pogacar's companions in the rider popularity stats). 5 are in more than half of our teams, which I am fairly sure has never happened before: I guess that means that there will be a lot of team similarity (I'll work out that tab later this afternoon), so the minor riders might be key for making the differences.

33 teams: HINDLEY Jai
28: BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley
25: JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland
24: CARAPAZ MONTENEGRO Richard Antonio
23: O'CONNOR Ben
19: ALAPHILIPPE Julian
15: CAVENDISH Mark
14: GIRMAY HAILU Biniam, YATES Simon
The collective Wisdom team will consist of those first 7 riders, plus the average of the scores of Girmay and Yates. That would make a team price of 3869
12: LOPEZ PEREZ Juan Pedro
10: JAKOBSEN Fabio
8: GOGL Michael, RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos
7: BAUHAUS Phil
6: KELDERMAN Wilco
5: CICCONE Giulio, CRAS Steff, VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas
4: KWIATKOWSKI Michal, LANDA MEANA Mikel, LUTSENKO Alexey
3: ARANBURU DEBA Alexander, BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello, GALL Felix, GUARNIERI Jacopo, HAIG Jack, MARTINEZ POVEDA Daniel Felipe, WRIGHT Fred
2: BARDET Romain, BUCHMANN Emanuel, CHAMPOUSSIN Clément, MOSCON Gianni, MÜHLBERGER Gregor, OSS Daniel, PETIT Adrien, POELS Wout, SAGAN Peter, SIMMONS Quinn, TEJADA CANACUE Harold Alfonso, TEUNS Dylan.
and there should be 26 of those asterisks to indicate unique picks above.