2023 World Championships team selections

[ManicJack]

Selfish best TTer worldwide Vingegaard not turning up is a disgrace.

Not this sh*t again

 

[Salvarani]

Selfish best TTer worldwide Vingegaard not turning up is a disgrace.

Shame when the best riders wont participate.

 

[Boehmand]

Selfish best TTer worldwide Vingegaard not turning up is a disgrace.

I agree.

I'm totally pissed off he refuses to ride Worlds, for the second year running.

Especially as he will surely want to ride next year, when the route is expected to be climber friendly.

 

[RedheadDane]

I agree.

I'm totally pissed off he refuses to ride Worlds, for the second year running.

Especially as he will surely want to ride next year, when the route is expected to be climber friendly.

Even if he'd wanted to ride, he wouldn't have been selected. Seems your issue is just that he's the one making the decision, maybe you think all riders should be begging their national coaches to be allowed to ride...

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Selfish best TTer worldwide Vingegaard not turning up is a disgrace.

Don't confuse selfishness with cowardice.

 

[Boehmand]

Even if he'd wanted to ride, he wouldn't have been selected. Seems your issue is just that he's the one making the decision, maybe you think all riders should be begging their national coaches to be allowed to ride...

Of course he would get selected to ride the TT!

- and yes, as said before I believe every rider should consider it an honour to represent their country at Worlds.

 

[Boehmand]

Don't confuse selfishness with cowardice.

Calling him a coward after how he rode corners and the descent today, is rather uninformed

 

[ManicJack]

Of course he would get selected to ride the TT!

- and yes, as said before I believe every rider should consider it an honour to represent their country at Worlds.

Just stop already.

 

[Boehmand]

Just stop already.

Just mute already

 

[RedheadDane]

- and yes, as said before I believe every rider should consider it an honour to represent their country at Worlds.

And I'm sure he will, if he gets selected one year. However, there's no need for any rider to feel obligated to ride the Worlds, or any race.

 

[Boehmand]

And I'm sure he will, if he gets selected one year. However, there's no need for any rider to feel obligated to ride the Worlds, or any race.

We disagree, and expecially when he would be amongst the favourites for the ITT.

 

[RedheadDane]

We disagree, and expecially when he would be amongst the favourites for the ITT.

Is the ITT 22.4 Ks with a difficult climb towards the end?
Is it gonna be ridden after 15 days of racing?

 

[ManicJack]

Just mute already

Now you're on to something. It would be cool if you could ignore a particular poster just in an individual thread, and not the entire forum.

 

[Boehmand]

Is the ITT 22.4 Ks with a difficult climb towards the end?
Is it gonna be ridden after 15 days of racing?

No

 

[RedheadDane]

No

Cool. So we agree you can't really compare the two?

 

[Boehmand]

Cool. So we agree you can't really compare the two?

I didn't

 

[RedheadDane]

I didn't

You're saying because he won today, he's somehow a favourite for the Worlds ITT.
I think he's would have a hard time against the Gannas of the World.

 

[Boehmand]

You're saying because he won today, he's somehow a favourite for the Worlds ITT.
I think he's would have a hard time against the Gannas of the World.

No, I am saying that he would be AMONGST the favourites, irrespective of today and irrespective of the route, because he is one of the 5 best TT riders in the world.

 

[CyclistAbi]

No Rogla, Moho, Tratnik ... Polanc retired... this year in Slovenian selection. So if Pogi decides his wrist takes priority then that is that i guess. We are not participating. For real.

 

[yaco]

Australia has named Ewan in the team who is not needed when you have Matthews and Groves. Interested in how Bling performs off no TDF - He's warming up with some races in Spain next week.

 

[Peter von]

Australia has named Ewan in the team who is not needed when you have Matthews and Groves. Interested in how Bling performs off no TDF - He's warming up with some races in Spain next week.

In general it’s interesting to see if the Tour is a benefit or not. I think the gc riders will be too spent to make a dent at the worlds also mentally, think Pogi last year at San Sebastián.

Bling might have benefitted from a bit of Tour action I reckon.

 

[Martinstranger]

You're saying because he won today, he's somehow a favourite for the Worlds ITT.
I think he's would have a hard time against the Gannas of the World.

Totally agree. He wouldn't have a chance on this years route. Almost flat and at 48 km. will favour bigger engines. Of course he is saying no way, wait for a better oppertunity and leave the space for a rider who might have a chance.
His focus is and have always been the Tour and (almost) nothing else.

 

[tobydawq]

Oh no, Broccoli got banned?

Spoiler

 

[ppanther92]

He wouldn't have a chance on this years route.

Yeah, sure. How would the guy that just destroyed everyone until T2, ridden at ~50km/h speed:

Preliminary results at T2

1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	19.05	50.620
2	POGAČAR Tadej	19.36	49.286
3	CAVAGNA Rémi	19.56	48.462
4	KÜNG Stefan	19.58	48.381
5	PEDERSEN Mads	20.09	47.940
6	VAN AERT Wout	20.16	47.664
7	ASGREEN Kasper	20.21	47.469
8	CASTROVIEJO Jonathan	20.21	47.469
9	YATES Adam	20.23	47.392
10	YATES Simon	20.25	47.314

Ever have a chance on a course expected to be ridden at slightly above 50km/h speed?

nk	Rider	Team	UCI	Pnt		Time	Avg
1	CAMPENAERTS Victor	Belgium	70	20		0:53:38	51.125
2	CASTROVIEJO Jonathan	Spain	55	14		0:01	51.109
3	SCHACHMANN Maximilian	Germany	40	8		0:28	50.684
4	LAMPAERT Yves	Belgium	30	7		0:31	50.637
5	DOWSETT Alex	Great Britain	25	6		0:35	50.575
6	MULLEN Ryan	Ireland	20	5		0:41	50.482
7	KÜNG Stefan	Switzerland	15	4		0:45	50.420
8	VAN EMDEN Jos	Netherlands	10			0:55	50.266
9	QUAADE Rasmus	Denmark	5			0:56	50.250
10	VAN BAARLE Dylan	Netherlands	3			1:04	50.128

 

[ppanther92]

No Rogla, Moho, Tratnik ... Polanc retired... this year in Slovenian selection. So if Pogi decides his wrist takes priority then that is that i guess. We are not participating. For real.

Would you not send Mezgec, Govekar, Primozic and the likes? Austria 2020 had Schöneberger, Wildauer, Gall, Zoidl, Friedrich, Bayer. Judging by Procyclingstats points for 2020 that was also leaving out their best 8 riders (Konrad, Großschartner, Pernsteiner, Mühlberger, Haller, Brändle, Gogl, Pöstlberger). But I guess you at least try to line up a team.