Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[rune1107]

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Right, Alberto survived the stage. We'll see what he can do tomorrow, hopefully he's well enough recovered from the first two stages. He'll be the first of the GC contenders to start so that'll be a bit of a disadvantage for him but at least he'll have Porte's time as a reference. I won't be able to watch but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Not sure if Porte will go full gas today or save himself for the big mountain stage. Let's see.

With Porte out, Contador chances got much better. Zakarin is the main problem.

99% sure Porte will go all out tomorrow. He is one of the main favorites for the stage..

 

[WheelofGear]

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Right, Alberto survived the stage. We'll see what he can do tomorrow, hopefully he's well enough recovered from the first two stages. He'll be the first of the GC contenders to start so that'll be a bit of a disadvantage for him but at least he'll have Porte's time as a reference. I won't be able to watch but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Not sure if Porte will go full gas today or save himself for the big mountain stage. Let's see.

With Porte out, Contador chances got much better. Zakarin is the main problem.

99% sure Porte will go all out tomorrow. He is one of the main favorites for the stage..

But he has lost the GC. Why not saving your legs for the mountain stages?

 

[roundabout]

There is no guarantee that he can make the break or his team/others can control the break with so many people 10+ minutes behind already

 

[yaco]

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I'm not very sure Porte will race against Sky.

I think that's been done to death. Porte would never sacrifice a win for Sky. As I recall he was attacking Froome in the Tour but of course it's the turns that they did together that are remembered. Porte had already lost time in the Tour so he had no choice and had to work with anyone he could. Anyone would think they are ex lovers or something. Maybe when Froome and Porte fell on the Ventoux Froome should have stopped to pick flowers so his run had a more romantic look when it was replayed in slow motion. Newsflash : Froome chases lover clutching wildflowers..............

Pity posters have short memories - During the Cadel Evans RR when Porte attacked with 4kms to go, it was Froome who brought back Porte's attack - Funniest thing is the commentators stated Froome would let Porte go because they are mates.

Pity posters can't tell the difference between situation where reacting or cooperating does and does not matter for the rider itself.

Also, Contador dropping out if he missed the echelons stage yesterday isn't a thing that happens. Riders need racing at this stage in the year. It's probably better to ride than to not ride for the season up until after the TdF probably.

Pity the facts hurt in a forum full of misplaced assertions - Whether you like it or not, Froome and Porte are on different teams and want to win or have their team-mates win.

And I made no mention of Contador dropping out of the PN - Why drop out when you can still win a stage ? And you will have freedom from your competitors to chase the stage.

 

[Red Rick]

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I'm not very sure Porte will race against Sky.

I think that's been done to death. Porte would never sacrifice a win for Sky. As I recall he was attacking Froome in the Tour but of course it's the turns that they did together that are remembered. Porte had already lost time in the Tour so he had no choice and had to work with anyone he could. Anyone would think they are ex lovers or something. Maybe when Froome and Porte fell on the Ventoux Froome should have stopped to pick flowers so his run had a more romantic look when it was replayed in slow motion. Newsflash : Froome chases lover clutching wildflowers..............

Pity posters have short memories - During the Cadel Evans RR when Porte attacked with 4kms to go, it was Froome who brought back Porte's attack - Funniest thing is the commentators stated Froome would let Porte go because they are mates.

Pity posters can't tell the difference between situation where reacting or cooperating does and does not matter for the rider itself.

Also, Contador dropping out if he missed the echelons stage yesterday isn't a thing that happens. Riders need racing at this stage in the year. It's probably better to ride than to not ride for the season up until after the TdF probably.

Pity the facts hurt in a forum full of misplaced assertions - Whether you like it or not, Froome and Porte are on different teams and want to win or have their team-mates win.

And I made no mention of Contador dropping out of the PN - Why drop out when you can still win a stage ? And you will have freedom from your competitors to chase the stage.

The latter wasn't a reaction to you, I should've multiquoted

 

[Lexman]

Contador doing the climb :
https://twitter.com/albertocontador/status/839440982089293825/video/1

can't really see if it's a TT bike or a normal one

 

[Scarponi]

Here we go boys and girls

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Solid ride

 

[Matteo.]

Strong ride. He reminded me last year MTT in dauphine'. But i had no doubts in these kind of TTs

 

[Carols]

He looked good. Hopefully can win the stage!

 

[Scarponi]

Is his form that much worse then alla or was that ride just massive?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Is his form that much worse then alla or was that ride just massive?

Alberto was faster on the climb, but lost a lot of time on the first part, partly because he had to deal with wet roads.

 

[portugal11]

Contador wasn't impressive. I was expecting a better time in mont brouilly. He was beaten by porte.
For me is game over

 

[rune1107]

Really too bad that he didn't get the win. But what a ride from Alberto anyways! Wet roads and fastest time on the climb. It bodes well for the weekend. It will be tough to beat Alaphilippe, but lets see saturday

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I think LRP had the fastest time on the climb

 

[rune1107]

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Contador wasn't impressive. I was expecting a better time in mont brouilly. He was beaten by porte.
For me is game over

He was beaten by 4 sec on the climb by Porte. Did you see how Porte was riding the flat part? Extremely cautious and didn't go as hard as Alberto. They are very equal when the road gets steep..

 

[Red Rick]

Porte didnt bother at all on the flat. Hes a poor indication

 

[Irondan]

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Porte didnt bother at all on the flat. Hes a poor indication

Why, is he saving himself for a road stage win? He was one of the favorites for this TT, instead AC beat him senseless, even Michael Matthews beat him...

 

[Mr.White]

Contador maybe isn't going to win this race, but he'll make a spectacle of it! :razz:

 

[Red Rick]

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Porte didnt bother at all on the flat. Hes a poor indication

Why, is he saving himself for a road stage win? He was one of the favorites for this TT, instead AC beat him senseless, even Michael Matthews beat him...

I don't know. But if you ride the fastest climb but don't lose like a minute to the winner on the flat, your doing something weird.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Noooo

Great TT by Berto but I'm so disappointed he didn't win the stage

Damn

 

[Escarabajo]

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Porte didnt bother at all on the flat. Hes a poor indication

Why, is he saving himself for a road stage win? He was one of the favorites for this TT, instead AC beat him senseless, even Michael Matthews beat him...

I don't know if this is the reason, but if the roads were wet then there was no reason to risk it if you are already out of GC. Go full gas on the mountain to test yourself.

 

[DFA123]

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Porte didnt bother at all on the flat. Hes a poor indication

Why, is he saving himself for a road stage win? He was one of the favorites for this TT, instead AC beat him senseless, even Michael Matthews beat him...

I don't know. But if you ride the fastest climb but don't lose like a minute to the winner on the flat, your doing something weird.

Probably saving himself to peak for the Woollongong Crit or something in a few weeks. Just doing an interval on the climb to stop the legs from blocking up.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

I can see Alaphilippe try and hang on to Alberto when he attacks, and I think the fact that Alaphilippe rarely rides in a calculated manner, but instead responds instantly to attacks will present itself as an opportunity for Alberto to really try and crack him. He is not the worst opponent to ride against for Alberto in that sense - but 1½ minutes is a lot and will likely require that Alberto gains time on more than one occasion. Also, there are 5 other good GC riders (I don't count Gilbert) in front of him, that he also needs to distance.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I can see Alaphilippe try and hang on to Alberto when he attacks, and I think the fact that Alaphilippe rarely rides in a calculated manner, but instead responds instantly to attacks will present itself as an opportunity for Alberto to really try and crack him. He is not the worst opponent to ride against for Alberto in that sense - but 1½ minutes is a lot and will likely require that Alberto gains time on more than one occasion. Also, there are 5 other good GC riders (I don't count Gilbert) in front of him, that he also needs to distance.

This exactly. He has to worry about too many opponents. Sorry, I can't see him winning anymore - he needed to gain more time today.
He'll probably end 2nd or 3rd again, uuuh I can't deal with anymore podiums