Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Netserk]

Which isn't saying much. Its a very stupid comment and the essay you wrote afterwards will prove to have been just a waste of your time.

There is a very obvious difference between focusing on the Tour de France like Contador has done for most of his career, and focusing ONLY on the Tour de France at the expense of all other races which hypocrites like you used to critisice Andy Schleck for but dont have the balls to do to riders you like.

Or at least I thought it was hypocricy. Judging by your inability to distinguish between the 2, it could just be ignorance.

When was the last time Andy ended better in T-A(or any one-week race) than the Tour? (where he did reasonable well)

I don't know if you remember, but Contador did better in the GC in T-A and Oman than he did in the Tour....

 

[murali]

There is a very obvious difference between focusing on the Tour de France like Contador has done for most of his career, and focusing ONLY on the Tour de France at the expense of all other races which hypocrites like you used to critisice Andy Schleck for but dont have the balls to do to riders you like.

with respect to andy schleck, let us be a bit objective. he seems to be in good form only for that small TdF window. Andy could have been much more, if he was having a sports psychology consultant. despite what AS has achieved, you still look at him as a could-have-been great.

AC's case is different.

 

[The Hitch]

Contador Oman was still when he was The Great One. He attacked far out on that stage and even though he lost that stage narrowly, there was a lot to admire.

 

[Netserk]

Contador Oman was still when he was The Great One. He attacked far out on that stage and even though he lost that stage narrowly, there was a lot to admire.

So how exactly can he be compared to Andy?

 

[Red Rick]

Contador Oman was still when he was The Great One. He attacked far out on that stage and even though he lost that stage narrowly, there was a lot to admire.

He'll be the The Great One for a long time in my book

 

[LaFlorecita]

He'll be the The Great One for a long time in my book

Same here but according to Hitch we cannot call him The Great One anymore.

 

[Netserk]

Same here but according to Hitch we cannot call him The Great One anymore.

Then just call him The Fat One

 

[LaFlorecita]

Then just call him The Fat One

Good one

 

[Angliru]

Don't worry. The secret pro only spills BS. He is way off mark on the wage thing of Contador and seemingly think's Tinkoff is ok to spew the sh*t he did, so I wouldn't think too much of him. In fact, I don't understand why we should believe him in anything. So far he have been off the mark everytime.

I interpreted the Secret Pro's responses to Tinkoff's tweets as the opposite:

"That doesn't help anyone. It's a shame Riis needs his money to keep running".

Are you basing it on previous comments that he (The Secret Pro) made regarding Tinkoff?

 

[Angliru]

Which isn't saying much. Its a very stupid comment and the essay you wrote afterwards will prove to have been just a waste of your time.

There is a very obvious difference between focusing on the Tour de France like Contador has done for most of his career, and focusing ONLY on the Tour de France at the expense of all other races which hypocrites like you used to critisice Andy Schleck for but dont have the balls to do to riders you like.

Or at least I thought it was hypocricy. Judging by your inability to distinguish between the 2, it could just be ignorance.

Comparing Contador's idea of a Tour focus to Andy's where he really was invisible except for one week (3 races) at the end of April is, to use your own word, ignorant. Contador is still present in the stage races he competes even if the results and success rate is not the same. Andy's career results in anything outside of July and late April speak for themselves (with the exception of his one Giro and the World's that Samu won). There can be no argument that you can make to to support Andy in this ludicrous comparison and you know it. What has changed about Contador's schedule other than the level of success? He is still making his presence known, but to a lesser degree in virtually every race he enters.

To criticize Contador because he's no longer the dominant force but still making his presence known is simply an example of how much each day you resemble a scorned lover who's been kicked to the curb more than a disappointed cycling fan. How much money did you really lose in your Tour wager because I can't imagine anything else that could have prompted such a abrupt about face? To blame it all on essentially being lied to is simply a cop out for not actually admitting to what actually led you to decide that suddenly a rider is as dispicable as you insist Contador has become.

 

[Angliru]

Contador Oman was still when he was The Great One. He attacked far out on that stage and even though he lost that stage narrowly, there was a lot to admire.

I think you've lost all rights of ever using the term "The Great One" (even if you did coin it ) and Contador in the same sentence (at least until you've admitted to the error of your ways).

 

[The Hitch]

To criticize Contador because he's no longer the dominant force .

huh?

10 characters

 

[Angliru]

huh?

10 characters

His lofty expectations didn't pan out, which is not uncommon among grand tour contenders. You claim that he lied about his form, the implication being that he also lied about the personal records he set in his Tour prep, for the sole purpose of being the team's undisputed leader, unwilling to play a co-captain or even subserviant role to Kreuziger. In your eyes he knew that he had no chance in the Tour and thus should have fessed up to management so that they could have planned an alternate strategy more fitting to his less than the usual Contador-like form, to maximize the team's Tour success.

You claim he never attacked in the Tour as he said he would, which isn't entirely true, but that fact for me would be evidence that either he simply didn't have the legs or that management/Tinkoff was unwilling to have him risk their positions in the gc for what would likely yield only failure. He failed to entertain you as he said he would and for that and whatever other reasons that you won't divulge, you've decided he is now public enemy #1.

 

[The Hitch]

Thats not "criticizing Contador because he's no longer the dominant force" now is it.

 

[Angliru]

Thats not "criticizing Contador because he's no longer the dominant force" now is it.

I'm "ignorant" remember? You should expect no less. If my posts are incoherent and hard to follow then I'm to blame.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto Contador ‏@albertocontador 2h
Brussels Classic finished, good sensations, fortunately out of all crash, tomorrow Fourmies

A lot of you probably haven't seen the race, it was funny, first he tried to go in the very first break, he succeeded but the break didn't last very long and later with 13km to go they showed him riding in the back of the pack, he smiled into the camera, one of the sporza guys said "this is Alberto Contador, with a smile.." and then the other said, "yes he is happy he's arrived in Brussels without any accidents", and then the second after he said that there was a huge pile-up right in front of Alberto

you can see the moment here somewhat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYz2YTBbkrw&feature=player_detailpage#t=434

this is the replay of the crash, you don't see the smile there but because it's a highlights clip they cut Alberto out

 

[LaFlorecita]

@J_Cantwell: GP Fourmies today. 1 man down after @mickrogers crashed yesty but we have the boss here @albertocontador #sprint

LOL

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol! Alberto refused to take part in the Lance Armstrong lie documentary

http://diariodeltriatlon.es/not/524...rticipar_en_el_documental_de_lance_armstrong/

 

[Red Rick]

Lol! Alberto refused to take part in the Lance Armstrong lie documentary

http://diariodeltriatlon.es/not/524...rticipar_en_el_documental_de_lance_armstrong/

What could you possibly expect?

 

[LaFlorecita]

What could you possibly expect?

I know

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yes, Velasco don't lie ever.

 

[Miburo]

Yes, Velasco don't lie ever.

Except about his shape

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes, Velasco don't lie ever.

Zaman stating the obvious huh?

 

[murali]

I missed AC in yesterday's vuelta stage.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Riis:

“I’m confident he’s going to have a good end of the season,” he stated. “His goals are the world championship and Il Lombardia but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him at the front in the two Canadian races this week.”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...tay-with-Team-Saxo-Tinkoff.aspx#ixzz2eQQoaC86

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