Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Cimber]

Contador sprinted because he thought he was winning the stage. Nibali can't sprint. It was the last 50 meters. Stage over.

Actually it wasnt like that. He stated that the reason he didnt attack Nibali harder earlier was cos he thought he riding for the stage and wanted to save energy for a sprint. At the finish, before he sprited, he found out the stage was gone and just wanted to take a few seconds. That means that he dropped all but Nibs, and put Nibs in the red zone, by freewheeling waiting for a sprint. Just wow. Its really to bad we were all cheated for the fireworks in store ón the stage he crashed out

 

[roundabout]

Please show a post where I ever defended contador in the clinic

I always said contador verbier was possibly the most physiologically dominant performance in cycling history. Clinic, no clinic, Twitter etc.

Did I write anything about Contador being doped or not?

And I did not mean you. But if you insist on making it about you, I find it really strange that you decided to use a climb where everyone in the top 5 posted very high numbers as some proof of absolute ability.

 

[Red Rick]

Also, Contador reached higher power outputs in the dauphine on a penultimate climb that Nibali has reached in the entire Tour

 

[Angliru]

So what?
The stage was meant to be testing both for the riders and the equipment. It's all part of the racing.
And how does it affects the fact Nibali stormed to the Arenberg - showed extraordinary form?
What are the guarantees the excuse was genuine?

The same guarantees that Vincenzo's excuse is genuine about being in the wrong gear after being beaten to the line with a gap by Contador in the photo posted by LaFlo. Maybe he didn't want to give his opponent a psychological edge by admitting to weakness. Depending on your bias (if one exists) you believe who and what you choose.

 

[Rollthedice]

Also, Contador reached higher power outputs in the dauphine on a penultimate climb that Nibali has reached in the entire Tour

There is no denying Contador was in top form. So was Froome. But we will never know what could have happened, that's all.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Now you're trolling.
When a climber does remarkably well on a stage like Arenberg, that's a sure sign he's in blistering form.

Uhm, no.
Was Fuglsang in blistering form?
Or Porte?

yea 1 kg...

Not really.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Not really.

what is Acs weight? thought it was 62

 

[LaFlorecita]

Can we just stop this incredibly boring discussion? We've been over it before and we'll never agree. Surely there are other things to talk about.

 

[LaFlorecita]

what is Acs weight? thought it was 62

AC at this year's Tour: 60kg.
VN: 64kg.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

AC at this year's Tour: 60kg.
VN: 64kg.

Did AC loose 3 kg from the Dauphine?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Did AC loose 3 kg from the Dauphine?

He wasn't 63kg at the Dauphiné.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

He wasn't 63kg at the Dauphiné.

do you have a source on his weight?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't know Contador's exact Tour weight, but he was much skinnier than in previous years, and he was definitely also skinnier than Nibali, so the difference between them wasn't just 1 kg.

 

[Red Rick]

Did AC loose 3 kg from the Dauphine?

Florrie forgot 3kg of awesomeness, Nibali also has some, but not as much

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I don't know Contador's exact Tour weight, but he was much skinnier than in previous years, and he was definitely also skinnier than Nibali, so the difference between them wasn't just 1 kg.

Slongo says AC was 63 kg in the Dauphine (I don't know why he would lie, so need to laugh it off cause it is Nibalis trainer). Nibali reached 63 kg when the tour started. Just by looking it is hard to judge weight, and if you don't have any sources your previous argument that Nibali did better because he is heavier is if not invalid, atleast rather weak.

 

[Rollthedice]

Can we just stop this incredibly boring discussion? We've been over it before and we'll never agree. Surely there are other things to talk about.

Agreed. How about Contador going for the win in Vuelta. I don't buy the stage hunting stuff though it's a plausible excuse if he gets dropped by Froome and Quintana. It wasn't pleasant to see Purito struggling to win a stage and getting passed like he was standing still. I can't see Contador in the grupetto and if there is no pain he can ride into better form as the Vuelta progresses.

 

[Netserk]

Slongo says AC was 63 kg in the Dauphine (I don't know why he would lie, so need to laugh it off cause it is Nibalis trainer). Nibali reached 63 kg when the tour started. Just by looking it is hard to judge weight, and if you don't have any sources your previous argument that Nibali did better because he is heavier is if not invalid, atleast rather weak.

I don't know why he would know.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Slongo says AC was 63 kg in the Dauphine (I don't know why he would lie, so need to laugh it off cause it is Nibalis trainer). Nibali reached 63 kg when the tour started. Just by looking it is hard to judge weight, and if you don't have any sources your previous argument that Nibali did better because he is heavier is if not invalid, atleast rather weak.

How the hell would Slongo know AC's weight. He probably assumed this was AC at his usual weight, i.e. 62 at the start of the Tour and 1 kg heavier at the Dauphiné, but AC was skinnier than ever.

And I never said Nibali did better because he's heavier. I believe Contador would have beaten Nibali uphill because Nibali is heavier.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I don't know why he would know.

Don't know why it would be so secret that a trainer can't get the information from a conversation with other or in this case ACs trainer/s

 

[LaFlorecita]

Florrie forgot 3kg of awesomeness, Nibali also has some, but not as much

That must be it

 

[LaFlorecita]

Don't know why it would be so secret that a trainer can't get the information from a conversation with other or in this case ACs trainer/s

Why would Contador's trainer tell Contador's weight to his rivals. That makes no sense.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Agreed. How about Contador going for the win in Vuelta. I don't buy the stage hunting stuff though it's a plausible excuse if he gets dropped by Froome and Quintana. It wasn't pleasant to see Purito struggling to win a stage and getting passed like he was standing still. I can't see Contador in the grupetto and if there is no pain he can ride into better form as the Vuelta progresses.

I think he'll go for the win, but I think he'd be better off really focussing on stage wins. Although not impossible, it'll be very hard for him to win the race overall. I'd say 99% impossible. But this is Alberto Contador we're talking about.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Why would Contador's trainer tell Contador's weight to his rivals. That makes no sense.

Weight is not something they keep secret really. Usually they use it to brag. Slongo surely does at, and so does alot of XC skiers. Probably many cyclists too. I have no doubt that De Jongh, Slongo etc knows the rivals match weights...

 

[LaFlorecita]

Weight is not something they keep secret really. Usually they use it to brag. Slongo surely does at, and so does alot of XC skiers. Probably many cyclists too. I have no doubt that De Jongh, Slongo etc knows the rivals match weights...

I highly doubt it.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I highly doubt it.

Ok

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