Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[riodouro]

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DS from Etixx, Brian Holm doesn't believe in Contador, it seems. He states that he will not win, and that he doesn't think Contador would have won without the Giro in his legs, either. His favourite is Quintana, apparently. Interesting to get the perspective of someone in the peloton with no ties to any of the big four.

He also stated that he is certain Nibali would have destroyed Contador last year regardless of the crash. Food for thought, if nothing else.

http://feltet.dk/nyheder/holm_contador_vinder_ikke_touren/

lol

"destroyed" and everything, lol indeed

If the Translator serves me well :
"If Froome has the team, he is also hard to beat for Contador. Whether it is the team that is not strong enough or tactic that fails I do not know, but it goes again and again wrong for Team Sky, "says Brian Holm."
Things havent been good to Etixx this year too.

 

[BlurryVII]

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DS from Etixx, Brian Holm doesn't believe in Contador, it seems. He states that he will not win, and that he doesn't think Contador would have won without the Giro in his legs, either. His favourite is Quintana, apparently. Interesting to get the perspective of someone in the peloton with no ties to any of the big four.

He also stated that he is certain Nibali would have destroyed Contador last year regardless of the crash. Food for thought, if nothing else.

http://feltet.dk/nyheder/holm_contador_vinder_ikke_touren/

What

Opinions from the DS are usually interesting, even if against AC, still wise most of the time. But what I read is not even an opinion, it's just hating.
Dude's deluded lol. At least he *** crushed useless Uran. Try to get your rider better before talking

 

[Electress]

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DS from Etixx, Brian Holm doesn't believe in Contador, it seems. He states that he will not win, and that he doesn't think Contador would have won without the Giro in his legs, either. His favourite is Quintana, apparently. Interesting to get the perspective of someone in the peloton with no ties to any of the big four.

He also stated that he is certain Nibali would have destroyed Contador last year regardless of the crash. Food for thought, if nothing else.

http://feltet.dk/nyheder/holm_contador_vinder_ikke_touren/

lol

Well, it's an opinion, but not exactly a reasoned argument.

 

[blackmamba]

Even the genius Froome aknowledges and knows whats up:

“He's got an amazing Grand Tour resume,” Froome told The Telegraph newspaper. “I can’t write off guys like Nibali, Quintana, Valverde, but Contador does stand out. He is the benchmark, the guy to beat.”

 

[ad9898]

The key for Contador at the tour will be his team, they can't in any way be lame like in the Giro, Sky's team looks to be very strong and of course Nibali will bring a full genius Astana team into the tour that will probably be stronger even than the laughable one from the Giro !

I'm a big Contador fan and if he pulls off a tour win, it will truely be legendary.

 

[rm7]

When Brian Holm normally talks about GC guys etc in interviews on danish TV2, he doesn't have a clue about anything. I've actually never heard him say anything "normal" about it. He only know who's the strongest sprinter and stuff like that, he doesn't know anything about who's the strongest climber or anything about what the GC guys are doing.

I dont even think he knew that Contador won almost everything in the spring.

 

[rune1107]

When Brian Holm normally talks about GC guys etc in interviews on danish TV2, he doesn't have a clue about anything. I've actually never heard him say anything "normal" about it. He only know who's the strongest sprinter and stuff like that, he doesn't know anything about who's the strongest climber or anything about what the GC guys are doing.

I dont even think he knew that Contador won almost everything in the spring.

This is actually so true!

 

[Dedelou]

When Brian Holm normally talks about GC guys etc in interviews on danish TV2, he doesn't have a clue about anything. I've actually never heard him say anything "normal" about it. He only know who's the strongest sprinter and stuff like that, he doesn't know anything about who's the strongest climber or anything about what the GC guys are doing.

I dont even think he knew that Contador won almost everything in the spring.

These old guys love to make statement that sound like something but they are not really reflecting what they know or based on sound analysis. To imply that Contador's tour chance are nil even if the did not do the Giro would be based on what kind of "observations"? His performance in previous grand Tour ? Makes so little sense

 

[ILovecycling]

Re: Re:

DS from Etixx, Brian Holm doesn't believe in Contador, it seems. He states that he will not win, and that he doesn't think Contador would have won without the Giro in his legs, either. His favourite is Quintana, apparently. Interesting to get the perspective of someone in the peloton with no ties to any of the big four.

He also stated that he is certain Nibali would have destroyed Contador last year regardless of the crash. Food for thought, if nothing else.

http://feltet.dk/nyheder/holm_contador_vinder_ikke_touren/

lol

more a LOLLL!!!!!

 

[Iker_Baqueiro]

Interesting, on Eurosport Karsten Kroon says that when he was watching the Finestre stage and saw Alberto dropping, he thought to himself that he would lose the Giro, because he was 1.30 behind at the top and there were still 25km to go. But then he kept the gap stable, so he feels he was either bluffing or just didn't want to go all out.
So basically what some of us also said.

I also think he was bluffing. He kept the gap, all by himself, at 1:30. At the last couple of km, he just let go and gifted 1 minute more to the others. No need to fatigue more then.

 

[cellardoor]

If Contador had stayed with or caught the Aru group then it would mean that there would be no reason for Landa to be called back. Others may then look to Contador to pull that group creating a disorganised chase and allowing Landa to gain significant time. I can actually see logic in Contador not wanting to be in that group and just riding at his own sustained pace, but it seems a stretch that he thought through that dynamic on the Finestre. I still think that he went into the red trying to follow Landa and had a crisis moment, but was able to recover and then didn't take any risks on the descent.

 

[Metabolol]

Alberto wasn't bluffing. He got dropped but didn't panic and had enough energy to control the time gap. He also capitalized on Astana not riding smart and managed to pull some time back on the descent.

He wasn't bluffing in any way,shape, or form.

 

[Miburo]

No way that it was a bluff, as much as i want to believe it lol

 

[Publicus]

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Alberto wasn't bluffing. He got dropped but didn't panic and had enough energy to control the time gap. He also capitalized on Astana not riding smart and managed to pull some time back on the descent.

He wasn't bluffing in any way,shape, or form.

This. I think folks are misconstruing or misunderstanding the differences between riding to limit your losses and pretending to be dropped. I think Contador had more to give on that stage and he probably would have ridden the last climb harder, but he knew he had a large lead and frankly he had another goal on the horizon (TdF). But make no mistake, he was dropped.

EDIT: On another topic, I like the Tour kit save the socks. I mean WTF....

 

[Electress]

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Alberto wasn't bluffing. He got dropped but didn't panic and had enough energy to control the time gap. He also capitalized on Astana not riding smart and managed to pull some time back on the descent.

He wasn't bluffing in any way,shape, or form.

This. I think folks are misconstruing or misunderstanding the differences between riding to limit your losses and pretending to be dropped. I think Contador had more to give on that stage and he probably would have ridden the last climb harder, but he knew he had a large lead and frankly he had another goal on the horizon (TdF). But make no mistake, he was dropped.

EDIT: On another topic, I like the Tour kit save the socks. I mean WTF....

I'm liking the kit too…though the socks remind me of my brothers' school uniform!!

And I agree with the rest of the post too.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yeah grey socks = NO

 

[Electress]

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Yeah grey socks = NO

Not even lovely legs Basso can pull those things off. With Bertie's utterly hideous 'heavy' black shoes they are truly horrible.

 

[ILovecycling]

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Yeah grey socks = NO

Not even lovely legs Basso can pull those things off. With Bertie's utterly hideous 'heavy' black shoes they are truly horrible.

this , its beyond every fashion boundary

 

[Jelantik]

OMG. What the hell?? I hate TS kit. Sorry what was that? a yellow bush? What happen with their yellow flo or the other yellow from last year?? This new color is so washed out.. it's like i want a yellow but not really.. and let add some grey bush for combination that makes either color looks so washed out. It needs a strong color to help balance the washout yellow. Might as well use black to bring up the lighter color. Having light color against the light color... geezzz.. Very disappointed with their TDF jersey this year!! Why can't their designer creates a modern simple design like Giant Alpacin, Trek or sky. I'm not fan of them, but I love their jersey design and color combination. Simple, bold, and modern.

EDIT: the last time I check - they are on a bike race not a duck hunting

 

[cellardoor]

Who let their kid grab a marker pen and scribble all over their kit?

 

[blackmamba]

I actually find it pretty cool, atleast decent. Giant, trek and sky's jerseys are the most boring jerseys in the entire peleton so I disagree

 

[LaFlorecita]

Lol Giant, Sky and Trek have the most horrible kits in the peloton

The jersey isn't very pretty, but it stands out and it's so wrong I actually like it all these boring corporate jerseys are just silly.

 

[BlurryVII]

OMG. What the hell?? I hate TS kit. Sorry what was that? a yellow bush? What happen with their yellow flo or the other yellow from last year?? This new color is so washed out.. it's like i want a yellow but not really.. and let add some grey bush for combination that makes either color looks so washed out. It needs a strong color to help balance the washout yellow. Might as well use black to bring up the lighter color. Having light color against the light color... geezzz.. Very disappointed with their TDF jersey this year!! Why can't their designer creates a modern simple design like Giant Alpacin, Trek or sky. I'm not fan of them, but I love their jersey design and color combination. Simple, bold, and modern.

EDIT: the last time I check - they are on a bike race not a duck hunting

Good post. Exactly that, cheap jersey. That grey camo mixed up with the washed out yellow looks absolutely disgusting. The black shoes and the grey sockets are the icing on the cake.

Now compare that crap to the shiny jersey from last year's Tour

 

[BlurryVII]

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Lol Giant, Sky and Trek have the most horrible kits in the peloton

The jersey isn't very pretty, but it stands out and it's so wrong I actually like it all these boring corporate jerseys are just silly.

Sky's jersey is actually very classy. I like the Trek one as well.

It's better to have a sober black jersey than stand out at all costs, what the *** is that jersey, it looks like it's coming straight from trash lmfao.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Get over yourselves, it is a bright yellow. You should know by now that the fluo yellow does not come across well on photos.

FFS, people were complaining about last year's Tour jersey, and most people ended up loving it. People complained about the camo training kit, and most people ended up loving it. People complained about Alberto's pink/fluo yellow/blue combo at the Giro, and many people ended up loving it.

It's just a freaking jersey, it stands out which is the single most important aspect of a cycling jersey. Build a bridge and get over it, all this complaining about a stupid jersey is just insane. The Tour is a bike race, not a fashion show.