Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Miburo]

Lefevre won't do that i think. A few years ago he really wanted Contador, really badly. But then in some interviews in the past year he said "it wouldn't be moral to get contador" things of that sort.

I think contador will race at least 2 more years btw.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

It would be fun if he went to Sky.

 

[dacooley]

Re:

It would be fun if he went to Sky.

that's true, especially if he wins the 2016 tour and froome will have to be his domestique de luxe or the other way round

 

[Miburo]

Re:

It would be fun if he went to Sky.

For fleur's reaction?

 

[Valv.Piti]

I have a friend, he is just a cycling fan, no a cyclist, and he did 1500 with a 11 Kg bike the previous day.

So funny how people set their priorities. I don't have that stuff, but my bike is much lighter .

11kg bike what's the point. No relevance whatsoever .

What is thw same friend that is a friend of Landa? Or no, I got it - it was Landa himself, we have all seen it Well I didn't know he uses 11kg bike, that finally makes some excuse for his performace at Pais Vasco.

Dno if you wasn't aware, is stupid or attempting be be amusing, but Landa has had a really shitty spring. I doubt anybody in the peloton would be able to win like he did on stage 2 with that little preparation

Blurry - still waiting for your reply, I think we had an interesting conversation.

 

[Escarabajo]

Via ammattipyoraily on twitter


#Itzulia, Arrate (ITT)

Contador: 15:32, 20.43 Kph, VAM 1831 m/h, ~6.6 W/kg (est.)
Pinot: 16:33, 19.18 Kph, VAM 1718 m/h, ~6.1 W/kg (est.)

Wow.
That must be pretty close to his best numbers, even from -09.
Vamos

Too short to tell.

 

[Carols]

“[2014] was the only year in the last few seasons when I arrived at the Tour well prepared, but then I had the fall," Contador told Marca. “Yes, this could be a comparable year to 2014. So far everything has gone well, I'm doing things in the best way that I can. I’m hopeful I can get to the Tour as I was back then, but have more luck…”

2014 form? We can hope If so, beware he will be rampaging!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Via ammattipyoraily on twitter


#Itzulia, Arrate (ITT)

Contador: 15:32, 20.43 Kph, VAM 1831 m/h, ~6.6 W/kg (est.)
Pinot: 16:33, 19.18 Kph, VAM 1718 m/h, ~6.1 W/kg (est.)

Wow.
That must be pretty close to his best numbers, even from -09.
Vamos

Too short to tell.

Jens disagrees

Contador did arrate at around 7 w/kg
Remember, on such a climb with steep ramps, it's out of this world. You fight gravity too.

2009 level in my humble opinion

 

[Jakub]

I have a friend, he is just a cycling fan, no a cyclist, and he did 1500 with a 11 Kg bike the previous day.

So funny how people set their priorities. I don't have that stuff, but my bike is much lighter .

11kg bike what's the point. No relevance whatsoever .

What is thw same friend that is a friend of Landa? Or no, I got it - it was Landa himself, we have all seen it Well I didn't know he uses 11kg bike, that finally makes some excuse for his performace at Pais Vasco.

Dno if you wasn't aware, is stupid or attempting be be amusing, but Landa has had a really shitty spring. I doubt anybody in the peloton would be able to win like he did on stage 2 with that little preparation

Blurry - still waiting for your reply, I think we had an interesting conversation.

Oh, amazing poetry here, I choose "is stupid"

 

[Jakub]

Via ammattipyoraily on twitter


#Itzulia, Arrate (ITT)

Contador: 15:32, 20.43 Kph, VAM 1831 m/h, ~6.6 W/kg (est.)
Pinot: 16:33, 19.18 Kph, VAM 1718 m/h, ~6.1 W/kg (est.)

Wow.
That must be pretty close to his best numbers, even from -09.
Vamos

Too short to tell.

Jens disagrees

Contador did arrate at around 7 w/kg
Remember, on such a climb with steep ramps, it's out of this world. You fight gravity too.

2009 level in my humble opinion

Well, these things are confusing me. Is it really so that he provides the same performance as in 2009? Are the others now so much better?

 

[rick james]

Back in the time warp are we?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Via ammattipyoraily on twitter


#Itzulia, Arrate (ITT)

Contador: 15:32, 20.43 Kph, VAM 1831 m/h, ~6.6 W/kg (est.)
Pinot: 16:33, 19.18 Kph, VAM 1718 m/h, ~6.1 W/kg (est.)

Wow.
That must be pretty close to his best numbers, even from -09.
Vamos

Too short to tell.

Jens disagrees

Contador did arrate at around 7 w/kg
Remember, on such a climb with steep ramps, it's out of this world. You fight gravity too.

2009 level in my humble opinion

Well, these things are confusing me. Is it really so that he provides the same performance as in 2009? Are the others now so much better?

in 7 years training methods, food, bikes etc have improved obviously. and in general yes, others become better. every new generation is a little better than the previous ones overall

 

[Taxus4a]

Via ammattipyoraily on twitter


#Itzulia, Arrate (ITT)

Contador: 15:32, 20.43 Kph, VAM 1831 m/h, ~6.6 W/kg (est.)
Pinot: 16:33, 19.18 Kph, VAM 1718 m/h, ~6.1 W/kg (est.)

Wow.
That must be pretty close to his best numbers, even from -09.
Vamos

Too short to tell.

Too short to tell that no.. and it was the begining of an ITT, so much more NO. He is not very far for this kind of performances. For that is just genetic, but he is not close. Of course with the numbers we have, he would have done more than 2000 VAM in 2009.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re: Re:

It would be fun if he went to Sky.

For fleur's reaction?

Partly

 

[Taxus4a]

2012 is the VAM Contador did at the end of the queen stage of Pais Vasco in Arrate.

2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)


It is supossed Contador is more tired after an stage with several climbs than in and ITT

The only advantage you may have in a normal stage (not ITT, I dont now how to say "etapa en linea") is if you are following a very speed pace for some very good domestique or rivals most of the climb, but that year Contador attacked at the middle of the climb as this year.

So, of course, he is not close to 2009 numbers, although he pretends to show that.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

2010 is the VAM Contador did at the end of the queen stage of Pais Vasco in Arrate.

2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)


It is supossed Contador is more tired after an stage with several climbs than in and ITT

The only advantage you may have in a normal stage (not ITT, I dont now how to say "etapa en linea") is if you are following a very speed pace for some very good domestique or rivals most of the climb, but that year Contador attacked at the middle of the climb as this year.

So, of course, he is not close to 2009 numbers, although he pretend to show that.

He always pretends he is as good as ever, that one never gets old...

 

[Taxus4a]

Re: Re:

2010 is the VAM Contador did at the end of the queen stage of Pais Vasco in Arrate.

2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)


It is supossed Contador is more tired after an stage with several climbs than in and ITT

The only advantage you may have in a normal stage (not ITT, I dont now how to say "etapa en linea") is if you are following a very speed pace for some very good domestique or rivals most of the climb, but that year Contador attacked at the middle of the climb as this year.

So, of course, he is not close to 2009 numbers, although he pretend to show that.

He always pretends he is as good as ever, that one never gets old...

IMO he is as good or better than in 2009, but I mean his performances, now are worse. Of course he is not old. Samu, Hayman, Valverde, Purito and a lot of people more disagree with that, dear Magnus.

 

[Taxus4a]

I have a friend, he is just a cycling fan, no a cyclist, and he did 1500 with a 11 Kg bike the previous day.

So funny how people set their priorities. I don't have that stuff, but my bike is much lighter .

11kg bike what's the point. No relevance whatsoever .

What is thw same friend that is a friend of Landa? Or no, I got it - it was Landa himself, we have all seen it Well I didn't know he uses 11kg bike, that finally makes some excuse for his performace at Pais Vasco.


On topic: would be great if he moved to Etixx and Etixx would buy 2 or 3 mountain domestics too. Finally after all years in stupid russian and kazach teams, he would be in a normal one.

I supoosed people here are able to read:

he is just a cycling fan, no a cyclist

Landa is a cyclist, Mikelarri was a cyclist in amateur. This man no. he is a normal cyclotourist, although he rode endurace things as transamerican. But the difference bettwen a pro rider and a ciclotouris is really big.

https://www.facebook.com/carlosbi.apm?fref=ts

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

2010 is the VAM Contador did at the end of the queen stage of Pais Vasco in Arrate.

2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)


It is supossed Contador is more tired after an stage with several climbs than in and ITT

The only advantage you may have in a normal stage (not ITT, I dont now how to say "etapa en linea") is if you are following a very speed pace for some very good domestique or rivals most of the climb, but that year Contador attacked at the middle of the climb as this year.

So, of course, he is not close to 2009 numbers, although he pretend to show that.

He always pretends he is as good as ever, that one never gets old...

IMO he is as good or better than in 2009, but I mean his performances, now are worse. Of course he is not old. Samu, Hayman, Valverde, Purito and a lot of people more disagree with that, dear Magnus.

Comparatively he was better in 09 as well, he was without a doubt the biggest favourite that year, now he is a close 3rd among all bookies.

 

[Taxus4a]

Re: Re:

2010 is the VAM Contador did at the end of the queen stage of Pais Vasco in Arrate.

2009:4,4 km@9,3%---12:12---average speed 21.64 km/h(Alberto Contador)


It is supossed Contador is more tired after an stage with several climbs than in and ITT

The only advantage you may have in a normal stage (not ITT, I dont now how to say "etapa en linea") is if you are following a very speed pace for some very good domestique or rivals most of the climb, but that year Contador attacked at the middle of the climb as this year.

So, of course, he is not close to 2009 numbers, although he pretend to show that.

He always pretends he is as good as ever, that one never gets old...

IMO he is as good or better than in 2009, but I mean his performances, now are worse. Of course he is not old. Samu, Hayman, Valverde, Purito and a lot of people more disagree with that, dear Magnus.

Comparatively he was better in 09 as well, he was without a doubt the biggest favourite that year, now he is a close 3rd among all bookies.

I think you can understand what I trying to say.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I dont, what are you trying to say? His performances and relative level compared to his competitors in 09 (Andy, Frank, LA, Klöden) and 16 (Quintana, Froome, Pinot, LRP) are lower, so I dont understand why you say he is as good or better than in 09

 

[staubsauger]

2009 is a bit overrated actually as the upcoming Tour editions were very low. But compared to the years before it ain't been no giant Tour at all. There ain't been much action at all the first two weeks. Tony Martin still was in the top 5 by then. That should tell enough.

Also Schleck always has been a guy to deal with for Contador.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

I dont, what are you trying to say? His performances and relative level compared to his competitors in 09 (Andy, Frank, LA, Klöden) and 16 (Quintana, Froome, Pinot, LRP) are lower, so I dont understand why you say he is as good or better than in 09

Clinic reasons.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

2009 is a bit overrated actually as the upcoming Tour editions were very low. But compared to the years before it ain't been no giant Tour at all. There ain't been much action at all the first two weeks. Tony Martin still was in the top 5 by then. That should tell enough.

Also Schleck always has been a guy to deal with for Contador.

Disagree, I think 2009 showed that Contador toyed with his opposition in any terrain under very difficult circumstance cause of Armstrong. You are right about the route, probably one of the most horrible routes in recent history, but Verbier and the ITT showed that he was at least one level above everyone else. His 2009 was flawless as a whole apart from the Paris-Nice crack, but he was comfortably the strongest in that race as well, following the script of the Tour of winning the ITT and smashing everyone on the MTF, but in the Tour without having anything close to a bad day.

What always bothers me is why he didnt went on Ventoux. He coulda won the stage easily IMO, but its hard to say whether he was human that day or he really didnt care.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

I dont, what are you trying to say? His performances and relative level compared to his competitors in 09 (Andy, Frank, LA, Klöden) and 16 (Quintana, Froome, Pinot, LRP) are lower, so I dont understand why you say he is as good or better than in 09

Clinic reasons.

Oh, now I got it