Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

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The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

 

[Taxus4a]

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The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

Sorry, in this Tour than when Contador did Giro and Tour in his Tour.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

Sorry, in this Tour than when Contador did Giro and Tour in his Tour.

Let's see if Quintana can finish 5th or higher in this TDF, despite the bad field. And don't forget Quintana didn't even win the Giro, which Contador did.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

Sorry, in this Tour than when Contador did Giro and Tour in his Tour.

Let's see if Quintana can finish 5th or higher in this TDF, despite the bad field. And don't forget Quintana didn't even win the Giro, which Contador did.

You're forgetting Taxus thinks Landa won that GT

 

[benzwire]

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The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

Sorry, in this Tour than when Contador did Giro and Tour in his Tour.

Let's see if Quintana can finish 5th or higher in this TDF, despite the bad field. And don't forget Quintana didn't even win the Giro, which Contador did.

This. The fact that Contador won 1 of the 2 in the attempt already is better than Quintana's result (unless he miraculously wins this Tour).

 

[Pantani_lives]

I can see Contador saving his Tour by winning an Alpine stage - after losing a lot of time in earlier stages. A bit like Stephen Roche in 1992.

 

[portugal11]

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After his santion he has never been with the quality to win a Tour with the best at his best.
The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,
It is possible than instead Contador said he is at his best now, with very good numbers, and older people as Valverde are at his best, he is now already fading becouse his age. Just a little, but it possible. He has his chances in other races. He is good at strategy.

Quintana didn't even win the giro. He and your beloved landa (the two best climbers in the world like you are always assuming) didn't beat a guy who took a dump in the giro

 

[Leinster]

I can see Contador saving his Tour by winning an Alpine stage - after losing a lot of time in earlier stages. A bit like Stephen Roche in 1992.

I don't think Roche was ever going to the 92 Tour with hopes of winning. He was always there to support Chiappucci. If Mollema or Pantano were to turn around and win a stage now, that would be similar to Roche's win. I think Contador has lost less time to Froome at this stage than Chiapucci did in the first TT alone to Indurain in 92.

 

[Carols]

Did he make it home unscathed without losing time? If so it was a good day

 

[Angliru]

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After his santion he has never been with the quality to win a Tour with the best at his best.
The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,
It is possible than instead Contador said he is at his best now, with very good numbers, and older people as Valverde are at his best, he is now already fading becouse his age. Just a little, but it possible. He has his chances in other races. He is good at strategy.

How can that be as Quintana failed to win the Giro and now he's struggling to reach the top 5 in the Tour compared to Contador's Giro win and 4th or 5th at the Tour?

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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Froome can win another 10 TdF's in his boring "Oh well luckily the team does a great job protecting me" fashion. No way that's going to make him even half as good as Alberto. Even a Tour-Vuelta double won't bring him close. The post-ban Contador alone is greater than Froome will ever be.

And that's just very sad reality. That such a figure who's dominating GC racing for almost half a decade now still receives laughter and that he isn't going to be nowhere near Alberto's stature. Because some freaking island that doesn't want to be part of Europe either had to be brought into road racing. So, so cruelly sad. Why has this Rupert Murdoch guy to ruin it all for us cycling fans...

HAHA got to laugh at some people. Would you be saying the same thing if your blue eyed boy was part of the Murdoch empire and he was winning GT's every year? It's not Froomes fault that Contador has been in Pi$$ poor teams for the past few years making his job of trying to win a race more or less impossible. Don't worry, I'm sure he'll go on one of his suicidal attacks soon to keep you happy.

 

[arvc40]

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Did he make it home unscathed without losing time? If so it was a good day

I think so, although you never know with him.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Would you be saying the same thing if your blue eyed boy was part of the Murdoch empire and he was winning GT's every year?

He doesn't have blue eyes

 

[LaFlorecita]

Nice artwork by a Eurosport cameraman

 

[lenric]

Nice one

 

[Electress]

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The excuse of the Giro is not good. We will see how Quintana is much better than Contador in his Tour when he doubled,

Get out

Sorry, in this Tour than when Contador did Giro and Tour in his Tour.

Let's see if Quintana can finish 5th or higher in this TDF, despite the bad field. And don't forget Quintana didn't even win the Giro, which Contador did.

This. The fact that Contador won 1 of the 2 in the attempt already is better than Quintana's result (unless he miraculously wins this Tour).

Absolutely. Contador gets nothing like the credit he deserves for the Giro - Tour attempt. Nairo's form today is a measure of just how impressive AC 2015 performance was. Sometimes we forget that the benchmark for AC is so high that winning a Giro and then coming 5th at the Tour is somehow counted as not living up to the hype.

 

[Electress]

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

Well, I think that might be the lens you view things through.

Seems to me Contador has a pretty good track record of trying 'the impossible' and just going for it. Maybe it didn't work out according to 'the dream', but he still moved up. Also - and I do think this is very important to him - it put on a show, and Contador is very aware that the fans love the way he races. I think he both wants to live up to that reputation, but also, I believe, wants to give the fans something spectacular. What did he say immediately after Paris-Nice. 'I think we put on a good show'. He is very aware of that these exploits gild his legacy.

 

[dacooley]

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Absolutely. Contador gets nothing like the credit he deserves for the Giro - Tour attempt. Nairo's form today is a measure of just how impressive AC 2015 performance was. Sometimes we forget that the benchmark for AC is so high that winning a Giro and then coming 5th at the Tour is somehow counted as not living up to the hype.

which says more rather about the amount of hype than AC and NQ having completely different benchmarks

 

[Singer01]

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

Could it be that is how you wanted it be fueled and you can't see the difference? Would you prefer that riders be happy with their station in the peloton and not challenge the powers that be in a race? That would be quite boring!

Mate, i have no dog in this fight, i think contador is awesome, i think froome is awesome, unlike many on here i don't have 'favourites' to the point where i go in a big huff if they lose. Again, i reiterate, its my opinion (which is just as valid as anyone else on here) that contador was giving froome a metaphorical black eye.

 

[Angliru]

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. To me it seemed clear what the intention was, Contador did nothing to put Quintana in any trouble or suggest he was riding for the overall.
I'm not saying it wasn't awesome, but it looked a little bit tinged with spite to me.

Could it be that is how you wanted it be fueled and you can't see the difference? Would you prefer that riders be happy with their station in the peloton and not challenge the powers that be in a race? That would be quite boring!

Mate, i have no dog in this fight, i think contador is awesome, i think froome is awesome, unlike many on here i don't have 'favourites' to the point where i go in a big huff if they lose. Again, i reiterate, its my opinion (which is just as valid as anyone else on here) that contador was giving froome a metaphorical black eye.

Well I hope no one is questioning the validity of your opinion, it's just that I simply don't agree. I think with Contador, as someone mentioned earlier, he likes to give the fans a show but also that no one knows what the outcome will be at the end of a dramatic stage like that one in last year's Vuelta. Contador is aware that in those circumstances, when riders are pushed to the edge, mistakes are made, and there is the potential for drastic swings in the race's story line. Looking at the sport's history, it's long range attacks that have changed what seemed like a foregone conclusion into a drama filled change in fortune. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

[rick james]

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I love how this thread has people calling Contador irrelevant when they try and use his name to talk their own riders up, rather then just go in their thread.

I also love that people take previously mentioned people seriously.

he is irrelevant to Froome

 

[No_Balls]

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I love how this thread has people calling Contador irrelevant when they try and use his name to talk their own riders up, rather then just go in their thread.

I also love that people take previously mentioned people seriously.

he is irrelevant to Froome

There is realiy nothing to discuss about Froome. He is the most irrelevant so called champ in this sports history so i guess that leaves it för his superficial July fans to discuss how he can start looking like a bike rider or which animals to torture. See, its an impossible project so they have to speak about other riders.

And dont make me start about Landa who for some reason was brought up here

 

[dacooley]

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I love how this thread has people calling Contador irrelevant when they try and use his name to talk their own riders up, rather then just go in their thread.

I also love that people take previously mentioned people seriously.

he is irrelevant to Froome

There is realiy nothing to discuss about Froome. He is the most irrelevant so called champ in this sports history so i guess that leaves it för his superficial July fans to discuss how he can start looking like a bike rider or which animals to torture. See, its an impossible project so they have to speak about other riders.

And dont make me start about Landa who for some reason was brought up here

i remember reading your posts when bertie was comfortably beating froome in the 2014 vuelta. you was exstatic, saying you have nothing against froome personally as the outcome pleased you. froome defeating contador is as fair as contador defeating froome. have finally some guts to accept it. though, it's bloody hard to overcome your own vitriol hate. i feel really sorry for you and suchlike fans at that point.

 

[Valv.Piti]

So he says he hopes he will recover when they hit the Alps... not the Pyrenees? Either he is overplaying his injuries or he genuinely got very hurt.

 

[arvc40]

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I love how this thread has people calling Contador irrelevant when they try and use his name to talk their own riders up, rather then just go in their thread.

I also love that people take previously mentioned people seriously.

he is irrelevant to Froome

There is realiy nothing to discuss about Froome. He is the most irrelevant so called champ in this sports history so i guess that leaves it för his superficial July fans to discuss how he can start looking like a bike rider or which animals to torture. See, its an impossible project so they have to speak about other riders.

And dont make me start about Landa who for some reason was brought up here

Bit strong when my logic tells me he is one of the best Athletes we have ever seen.