Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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A real show of peak performance today. Pushing the riders to there limits. Contador not bad but Froome showing Mega power there.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
arvc40 said:
A real show of peak performance today. Pushing the riders to there limits. Contador not bad but Froome showing Mega power there.
arvc40 said:
Portal just having a gloat that Froome is super strong and will be super for the next 2 weeks !
IMO you'd better fit in in the Froome thread.

Crikey you had to quote from yesterday because my comment today is too reasonable !. Whats wrong with what I said today ?
 
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Matteo. said:
Red Rick said:
Not really. Just day to day variation. Riding the climb this way didn't suit Contador at all.
He no longer has the ability to recover
I don't think it's his recovery, he's just much less consistent. Great one day then *** the other. To be honest I'm not even sure about the supposed stomach issues on stage 3 as it could just as well have been a really bad day.

Looking at the profiles for the upcoming stages, I realized 2 things:
1. He's going to need brilliant legs and a lot of luck to win a stage. Seems it's mostly long MTFs from now on and no matter what people on here write, I am not at all convinced he'll do well. Seems to me if any team rides a high tempo on those stages his legs will be fried. Only way I can see him win is if he tries an opportunistic attack in the final 2 or 3km of a MTF (if everything is still together at that point....) and others don't immediately respond because he's quite far back on GC. Or he has to find some miracle legs along the road, but with his luck I wouldn't be surprised if his best chance to win a stage is ruined by a break.
2. Only 12 more stages... :( please let them be more like yesterday and less like today
 
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arvc40 said:
LaFlorecita said:
arvc40 said:
A real show of peak performance today. Pushing the riders to there limits. Contador not bad but Froome showing Mega power there.
arvc40 said:
Portal just having a gloat that Froome is super strong and will be super for the next 2 weeks !
IMO you'd better fit in in the Froome thread.

Crikey you had to quote from yesterday because my comment today is too reasonable !. Whats wrong with what I said today ?
Your post today reminded me of yesterday's post and I realized this is a pattern.
Would it have been normal if I had gone into Froome's thread yesterday and posted "yeah Froome did alright but did you see Contador sprint back onto his wheel over the summit and damn that final sprint such power, watch out he'll only get stronger!"
Maybe that's normal in your eyes, but not in mine. If you want to gloat over your new love's performances please do it in the appropriate thread.
 
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I agree with flo. He has been less consistent and his endurance has been lesser over the years. He can win from the break, not in the group of favourites
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Matteo. said:
Red Rick said:
Not really. Just day to day variation. Riding the climb this way didn't suit Contador at all.
He no longer has the ability to recover
I don't think it's his recovery, he's just much less consistent. Great one day then **** the other. To be honest I'm not even sure about the supposed stomach issues on stage 3 as it could just as well have been a really bad day.
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Looking at the profiles for the upcoming stages, I realized 2 things:
1. He's going to need brilliant legs and a lot of luck to win a stage. Seems it's mostly long MTFs from now on and no matter what people on here write, I am not at all convinced he'll do well. Seems to me if any team rides a high tempo on those stages his legs will be fried. Only way I can see him win is if he tries an opportunistic attack in the final 2 or 3km of a MTF (if everything is still together at that point....) and others don't immediately respond because he's quite far back on GC. Or he has to find some miracle legs along the road, but with his luck I wouldn't be surprised if his best chance to win a stage is ruined by a break.
2. Only 12 more stages... :( please let them be more like yesterday and less like today[/quote]


*** is a big word. He finished 5th at 12s, cose enough to others human beings. Anyway We agree after all, we express a similar concept

Secondly, i agree about those point.
I'm afraid he will be worn little at a time. Probably the best oppurtunity will be the stage of sierra nevada: short with good climbs. Otherwise he should go out of the GCc and look for the stage with attacks from afar
 
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Climber123 said:
Not sure it was really bad. It was the least likely scenario for him to win with a 400m sprint out to be fair.
It wasn't really bad, but it was worse than expected. He really seemed to be struggling.
Honestly I don't even know which climbs suit him anymore. Seems it's moderately steep 10 to 15 minute efforts that don't end in a sprint. On everything else he has a tough time.
 
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I would not read too much into today's result: I have watched the finale again, and Contador missed catching Froome's wheel by one or two bike lengths when he accelerated. From then, with the strong headwind, it was not possible to keep on trying to catch Froome: then Contador clearly sat down and let the other riders pass him (I.e. the ones that had eaten less wind).
For me the headwind did not play in Contador's favour at all.
 
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TommyGun said:
I would not read too much into today's result: I have watched the finale again, and Contador missed catching Froome's wheel by one or two bike lengths when he accelerated. From then, with the strong headwind, it was not possible to keep on trying to catch Froome: then Contador clearly sat down and let the other riders pass him (I.e. the ones that had eaten less wind).
For me the headwind did not play in Contador's favour at all.
Thats a pretty optimistic view of things....
 
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Valv.Piti said:
TommyGun said:
I would not read too much into today's result: I have watched the finale again, and Contador missed catching Froome's wheel by one or two bike lengths when he accelerated. From then, with the strong headwind, it was not possible to keep on trying to catch Froome: then Contador clearly sat down and let the other riders pass him (I.e. the ones that had eaten less wind).
For me the headwind did not play in Contador's favour at all.
Thats a pretty optimistic view of things....

Yeah. Froome put his nose much more into the wind and still rode away. And Chaves didn't really have any cover up while he rode back to Froome. Berto just didn't have the legs today.
 
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TommyGun said:
I would not read too much into today's result: I have watched the finale again, and Contador missed catching Froome's wheel by one or two bike lengths when he accelerated. From then, with the strong headwind, it was not possible to keep on trying to catch Froome: then Contador clearly sat down and let the other riders pass him (I.e. the ones that had eaten less wind).
For me the headwind did not play in Contador's favour at all.
Froome was riding into the headwind as well. What you're saying is that if Contador had managed to draft behind Froome he would have done better but essentially he'd have been just as bad.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
TommyGun said:
I would not read too much into today's result: I have watched the finale again, and Contador missed catching Froome's wheel by one or two bike lengths when he accelerated. From then, with the strong headwind, it was not possible to keep on trying to catch Froome: then Contador clearly sat down and let the other riders pass him (I.e. the ones that had eaten less wind).
For me the headwind did not play in Contador's favour at all.
Froome was riding into the headwind as well. What you're saying is that if Contador had managed to draft behind Froome he would have done better but essentially he'd have been just as bad.

Yeah, but we all know by now that Froome is not human :(
Maybe Contador should have stayed a little further back to get more shelter.
 
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On a positive note Alberto moved to 13th on GC. How many minutes can he take on everyone in the TT not named Froome , Nibali or TJ?
 
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Red Rick said:
Not really. Just day to day variation. Riding the climb this way didn't suit Contador at all.
Spot on. He lacks the explosiveness for a Mur de Huy finish like it turned out today.Perhaps he should have restrained himself from responding to Froome and instead taken the same approach as Chaves. I reckon he could have lost 4 or 5 seconds less that way.

What's encouraging is that he did not go totally backwards after he failed to close the gap to Froome. It still looked like he had power for the last 50 meters to sprint.