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WonderLance said:Are you saying mines not? I don't know where you live but I might be able to find out!
stephens said:Well, I certainly can't argue with those results!
As for me, I was a vegetarian for five years and though I felt better about the impact I was having on the rest of the planet's occupants, I didn't really notice any big impacts on my own body when I switched to vegetarian, nor when I went back to eating meat. Contrary to what everyone told me, I didn't get sick when I ate meat, didn't feel any changes at all in my energy levels or any of that stuff. It was just a seamless transition off and back on to a meat diet.
I'm not a huge fan of meat though and don't eat much these days. I track every thing I eat (i'm just a data junkie) and really do find it hard enough to get all the protein I want if I didn't have meat that day. I can always supplement with whey protein shake. (sorry vegans).
Yes, you have to find what works for you. Perhaps in the future you'll go veg or vegan even, and do it a different way. Maybe not.stephens said:As for me, I was a vegetarian for five years and though I felt better about the impact I was having on the rest of the planet's occupants, I didn't really notice any big impacts on my own body when I switched to vegetarian, nor when I went back to eating meat. Contrary to what everyone told me, I didn't get sick when I ate meat, didn't feel any changes at all in my energy levels or any of that stuff. It was just a seamless transition off and back on to a meat diet.
stephens said:Who seriously takes the time to ask "who is _____"? You can google/wikipedia that info in seconds. Now, if you don't get many results, then you can post "who is ____?" and mean it as a rhetorical device to try to make the point that the individual being discussed is a nobody. But in Danzig's case, you'd see he has a wikipedia page listing all his results and letting you know that he is fighting in the top organization in his sport and has had decent success at it. I happen to like the kid and hope he continues to win: sweet knockout of joe stevenson last fight.
But having said all that "appeal to celebrity," is not a legitimate logical device and should not convince anyone that being a vegan is or isn't something to do.
Alpe d'Huez said:Are you a vegetarian? Or have you ever been one? How do you feel it affected your training and athletic performance?
Archibald said:ever think it might have been a turn of phrase used to illustrate that he's no one in particular?
stephens said:Of course I thought that, which is why I specifically addressed that point by saying that that sort of thing only works when the person being mentioned really is "no one in particular," and not a top athlete (since it's athletic performance we are talking about here).
tony83 said:I am a self-confessed heath buff that is why I’ve also tried going vegan although I do keep a regular work-out regimen. Personally, at first when I tried going vegan I felt somewhat lighter but at the same time I noticed that I get tired more easily than when I had a high protein diet which is usually recommended for active people. I would probably suggest that if you are very active and would want to go for healthier options, you can probably go for more veggies that are also carb-containing to give you the needed energy but still be healthy and have a couple of high-protein foods in your diet so as to promote muscle building.
stephens said:Well I guess you are just a lot smarter and more evolved than the rest of us. Congratulations.
I made a conscious decission to be vegetarian for five years and then made a conscious decision to eat meat again. I noticed no differences in my mental state or physical well being, one way or another.
We only know what is best for ourselves and so shouldn't be so damn self righteous and preachy.
Fieldsprint said:"The vast majority of people in the US don't grow food, let alone hunt and gather it. We have no way to judge how much death is embodied in a serving of salad, a bowl of fruit, a plate of beef. We live in urban environments, in the last whispers of forests, thousands of miles removed from devastated rivers, prairies, wetlands, and the millions of creatures who died for our dinners. We don't even know what questions to ask to find out."
-- Lierre Keith, The Vegetarian Myth
Anyone claiming moral, social, or health superiority from a vegetarian diet should read this book.
stephens said:Well I guess you are just a lot smarter and more evolved than the rest of us. Congratulations.
I made a conscious decission to be vegetarian for five years and then made a conscious decision to eat meat again. I noticed no differences in my mental state or physical well being, one way or another.
We only know what is best for ourselves and so shouldn't be so damn self righteous and preachy.
durianrider said:Yeah I find it MEGA EASY to stay lean, fit and strong all year round with out the risk of burn out. Some parts of the year Im just really fit and some parts Im super fit.
Being vegan and eating high carb, low fat makes it MEGA easy and you get to eat MEGA volumes of food. Its win win for us, the animals and the planet. Cant argue with that.
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lostintime said:We choose the food we do because we're either asleep at the wheel or we're not. Stop hiding under the "I don't know what the f he's talking about Rock! Please. The "rock" is just another place that alter ego'd driver takes you to keep you driving scared. Take a leap. Take back the courage you were born with. Live the life of who you really are ... you are one of a kind.
-peace