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the big ring said:
+1 Great sleuthing.

We're seeing an instance of USADA winning a Federal court case partly because they can come under the USOC - USAC - USADA stream, but from my reading over the years, IOC is as equally corrupted & corrupting as the UCI appear to be.

How else do you explain Verbruggen becoming part of the IOC? :eek:
Not just Verdrugthem, but McQuaid was given a life time Olympic ban for particpating in sports in South Africa in 1976 when there was a sporting ban. Now is an IOC council member. Go figure.
 
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sniper said:
More on Terrados' profile:


Recall he had already been busted in 1998 in relation to the ONCE/Festina EPO affaire and had been explicitly mentioned by Zülle as the provider and administrator of EPO on the ONCE team.

So, to be sure, this guy Terrados in 2011 occupies none other than the following top posts:


reminds me a bit of how naturally Fuentes continued to fill medical positions at universities and sportclubs after Op. Puerto.
We are quite a good research team sniper!

Terrados the Conconi Espanjol!

Both being higos de pu....

Amazing why their licences aren't provoced.
roundabout said:
Maybe he is a good doctor. Just not with the best of morals.
That would indeed be del Moral :D
 
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Benotti69 said:
Not just Verdrugthem, but McQuaid was given a life time Olympic ban for particpating in sports in South Africa in 1976 when there was a sporting ban. Now is an IOC council member. Go figure.
:D
subtle....
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
We are quite a good research team sniper!

Terrados the Conconi Espanjol!

Both being higos de pu....

Amazing why their licences aren't provoced.That would indeed be del Moral :D
:)
yep, today was a good day, the way we rigorously dissected the dodgy CV's of San Millán and Nicolás Terranos. :cool:
 
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sniper said:
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yep, today was a good day, the way we rigorously dissected the dodgy CV's of San Millán and Nicolás Terranos. :cool:
Chapeau guys.

That might stop JV coming in here till Armstrong gets done. Then no doubt he will be in to say hi.
 

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sniper said:
Only in Spain:

Terrados in 1998 jailed for gearing up ONCE:
http://elpais.com/diario/1998/09/09/...14_850215.html

Terrados in 2011 head of the Spanish Olympic Committee.
http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevill...ntachable.html

I mean: WTF?
The head of Spanish Olympic Committee since 2005 is Alejandro Blanco.
http://www.coe.es/

There is no mention of Terrados anywhere - so what role has he, if any?

And he was not jailed in 1998, he was arrested and questioned and he was eventually cleared of all charges in 2002.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
The head of Spanish Olympic Committee since 2005 is Alejandro Blanco.
http://www.coe.es/

There is no mention of Terrados anywhere - so what role has he, if any?

And he was not jailed in 1998, he was arrested and questioned and he was eventually cleared of all charges in 2002.
The article sez; "es profesor de la UNED, del Comité Olímpico Español (COE) y de la Universidad de Oviedo. (...) actualmente dirige el centro regional de medicina deportiva en Asturias".

The fact he was ONCE's team doc in the 90's and Mühlegg's prepatore before Salt Lake suggests he's dirty as ****.
 

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Tyler'sTwin said:
The article sez; "es profesor de la UNED, del Comité Olímpico Español (COE) y de la Universidad de Oviedo. (...) actualmente dirige el centro regional de medicina deportiva en Asturias".

The fact he was ONCE's team doc in the 90's and Mühlegg's prepatore before Salt Lake suggests he's dirty as ****.
Not questioning Terrados dubious past on the doping front - and while it would not surprise me that he is involved with the Spanish Olympic Committee he is certainly not the head - and not listed anywhere else.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Not questioning Terrados dubious past on the doping front - and while it would not surprise me that he is involved with the Spanish Olympic Committee he is certainly not the head - and not listed anywhere else.
Do you really want to become the king of semantics on CN? Just stick by the JV defence squad.

There is more than LA in cycling/clinic terms.

In other words: it would be possible someone could have translated some Spanish different as real Spanish would have done, as pointed by TylersTwins.
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Do you really want to become the king of semantics on CN? Just stick by the JV defence squad.

There is more than LA in cycling/clinic terms.

In other words: it would be possible someone could have translated some Spanish different as real Spanish would have done, as pointed by TylersTwins.
The link provided is in Spanish http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html. It says he's a "physiologist with an spotless curriculum". It also says he wasn't working with ONCE in 1998, when all the doping scandal came out.
 
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sartoris said:
The link provided is in Spanish http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html. It says he's a "physiologist with an spotless curriculum". It also says he wasn't working with ONCE in 1998, when all the doping scandal came out.
''Terrados Nico is a renowned specialist in sports physiology born in Jaén and lives in Oviedo. His resume includes level passages: he did a master at the Karolinska Institute (the organization granting the Nobel medicine), is professor at the UNED, the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE) and the University of Oviedo. He has participated in over a hundred publications related to sport and physical variants and currently heads the regional center in Asturias sports medicine . Owning a spotless record, his fame, however, came through an unexpected channel for it: cycling . was the official doctor ONCE cycling team during his prolific and successful career in the nineties . He worked under the orders of Manolo Saiz from 1989-1998. Ten seasons in which the ONCE was one of the most reputable sports entities in Spain. Zülle, Jalabert, Mauri and many other cyclists who competed against Indurain phenomenon. ''

Really?
 
sartoris said:
The link provided is in Spanish http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html. It says he's a "physiologist with an spotless curriculum". It also says he wasn't working with ONCE in 1998, when all the doping scandal came out.
No, it says he was working with ONCE in 1998, but that affaire forced him to leave the team.

It also says this:
"Terrados could boast that during his stay at ONCE there were no positive tests in the team"
:D
 

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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Do you really want to become the king of semantics on CN? Just stick by the JV defence squad.
You mean I am not already? Damn, I worked so hard for that title.

Fearless Greg Lemond said:
There is more than LA in cycling/clinic terms.
LA?? What are you on about?

Fearless Greg Lemond said:
In other words: it would be possible someone could have translated some Spanish different as real Spanish would have done, as pointed by TylersTwins.
Real Spanish? It was claimed Terrandos was head of EOS, he isn't - and he was jailed for doping, he wasn't.

Now he may well have some role somewhere in EOS, but I will wait and see what the research team come up with.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Real Spanish? It was claimed Terrandos was head of EOS, he isn't - and he was jailed for doping, he wasn't.

Now he may well have some role somewhere in EOS, but I will wait and see what the research team come up with.
Terrados was jailed in France at the 1998 Tour.
 

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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Hey semantics bada$$, your dear ol friend Terrados was jailed in France at the 1998 Tour, but keep on trolling because you don't like us making your golden boy look bad.
He was arrested - not jailed, as he his case was not heard until end of 1999 and he won his appeal in 2002.

Terrados doped people - that's not in dispute. But what, what if any is his role in the EOS?
Don't blame me that you were so busy backslapping you never checked the "research".
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
He was arrested - not jailed, as he his case was not heard until end of 1999 and he won his appeal in 2002.

Terrados doped people - that's not in dispute. But what, what if any is his role in the EOS?
Don't blame me that you were so busy backslapping you never checked the "research".
Okay, JV fan/wannabee. Do ur own research when u have time of kissing JV's *** of course.

Got info for you, Ferrari also won his appeal. What are you on JV fanman?
 

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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Okay, JV fan/wannabee. Do ur own research when u have time of kissing JV's *** of course.

Got info for you, Ferrari also won his appeal. What are you on JV fanman?
Unlike you - I did the research and Terrados is not the head of EOS.

If I made a claim that someone was indeed head of an organisation - I would back that up and link it. I didn't, so I won't.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
The head of Spanish Olympic Committee since 2005 is Alejandro Blanco.
http://www.coe.es/

There is no mention of Terrados anywhere - so what role has he, if any?

And he was not jailed in 1998, he was arrested and questioned and he was eventually cleared of all charges in 2002.
true, some corrections needed.
1. I read this
Nicolás Terrados pensó que su pesadilla había terminado hace más de un mes cuando el juez le puso en libertad.
. Since I didn'T have time to read the article, I concluded from that that he had been 'jailed'. http://elpais.com/diario/1998/09/09/deportes/905292014_850215.html

2. already posted in a previous post, he wasn'T director but "professor" of the olympic committee. http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html

Note however that i had already made both corrections in this post which you must have overlooked :
sniper said:
More on Terrados' profile:


Recall he had already been busted in 1998 in relation to the ONCE/Festina EPO affaire and had been explicitly mentioned by Zülle as the provider and administrator of EPO on the ONCE team.

So, to be sure, this guy Terrados in 2011 occupies none other than the following top posts:


reminds me a bit of how naturally Fuentes continued to fill medical positions at universities and sportclubs after Op. Puerto.
anyway, you were of course right to point out some sloppiness on my part. thanks for helping sorting it out.
but regarding terrados, looking at his 2011 CV, which is quite impressive and filled with top-positions and honors, i fully stick to my yesterday's conclusion:
it reminds me of how naturally Fuentes continued to fill medical positions at universities and sportclubs after Op. Puerto.
And yes, as McQuaid says: only in Spain.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
The head of Spanish Olympic Committee since 2005 is Alejandro Blanco.
http://www.coe.es/

There is no mention of Terrados anywhere - so what role has he, if any?

And he was not jailed in 1998, he was arrested and questioned and he was eventually cleared of all charges in 2002.
1. I read this
Nicolás Terrados pensó que su pesadilla había terminado hace más de un mes cuando el juez le puso en libertad.
. Since I didn'T have time to read the full article, I logically concluded that if the judge gave him his freedom that he must have been 'jailed' before that. http://elpais.com/diario/1998/09/09/deportes/905292014_850215.html. And I guess that wasn't semantically incorrect. He must have spent at least one night in jail after his bust.:eek: But in a later post (which you overlooked, see below), I only said terrados had been "busted", which we agree is a more accurate description of the facts.

2. As I already pointed out in a previous post (see below), he wasn'T director but "professor" of the olympic committee. http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html

So I'm assuming you had overlooked this post of mine in which both of the above points are accurately represented:cool::
sniper said:
More on Terrados' profile:


Recall he had already been busted in 1998 in relation to the ONCE/Festina EPO affaire and had been explicitly mentioned by Zülle as the provider and administrator of EPO on the ONCE team.

So, to be sure, this guy Terrados in 2011 occupies none other than the following top posts:


reminds me a bit of how naturally Fuentes continued to fill medical positions at universities and sportclubs after Op. Puerto.
anyway, you were of course right to point out sloppiness in my first post on terrados. He's not the director of the Spanish OC. Thanks for helping sorting it out.

But regarding terrados, looking at his 2011 CV, which is filled with top-positions and honors he received after the ONCE/Festina affair, i fully stick to my yesterday's conclusion:
it reminds me of how naturally Fuentes continued to fill medical positions at universities and sportclubs after Op. Puerto.
And yes, as McQuaid says: only in Spain.
 
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re: Terranos.

I found one ref. saying he's a "professor" of the Spanish Olympic Committee, another that he's been "honored" (otorgado) by the Spanish Olympic Committee.

http://67.227.137.43/noticias/sevilla-fc/nicolas-terrados-hoja-servicios-intachable.html

http://www.vivirasturias.com/asturias/oviedo/terrados,-nicolas/es/

I'm assuming then that perhaps he 'merely' received an academic distinction (or perhaps an honorary professorship?) from the Spanish OC. What for? I guess for his services for Spanish Olympic Sports. But whatever, it suggests once more that doping is/has been institutionalized in Spain throughout the 2000s and that doping specilaists have been systematically recruited to fill high positions within Spanish sports federations.
Cf. Marta "Galgo" Dominguez' position as vicepresident of the Real Federación Española de Atletismo. (Not sure if she still fills it, as she was suspended from the position shortly after Op. Galgo emerged) and there must be more cases in point.
 

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