Baron Coe, cleans?

[arthurvandelay]

Some very juicy stuff in that report. Coming as it does the same week as the devastating article about doping by Russia and utter uselessness of WADA (NY Times, Juliet Macur et al) it does make for sad reading. Rio is just a few weeks away....

 

[Benotti69]

Hopefully Rio will the last olympics

 

[arcus]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07gy406

Thanks for posting this....
Good to see Coe getting nailed

 

[BullsFan22]

Let's hope, with the Coe revelations (or at least some of them) here, they go after him and the British Federation and UKAD in earnest. They have gone full blast on the Russians, it's about time they went after the island that won a record amount of medals (at their home games, what's more) in 2012. Is it coincidence that Canada, Russia and Great Britain did so well at their home Olympics?

I hope that with Coe in trouble, he exposes the other patsies in that boat and it sinks.

 

[thehog]

Let's hope, with the Coe revelations (or at least some of them) here, they go after him and the British Federation and UKAD in earnest. They have gone full blast on the Russians, it's about time they went after the island that won a record amount of medals (at their home games, what's more) in 2012. Is it coincidence that Canada, Russia and Great Britain did so well at their home Olympics?

I hope that with Coe in trouble, he exposes the other patsies in that boat and it sinks.

Highly doubtful, there appears a reluctance to do that. Coe has gone underground now and only speaks though a spokesperson.

Cookson pretends nothing is happening with respect to motor doping.

Reedie just doesn't care and will have a high ranking position within the IOC by next year (in fact he is already IOC).

All of these British leaders are non-elected by the people, they can do as they please. They only need federations to support them and that is done with paying off countries with funding.

 

[gooner]

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Hopefully Rio will the last olympics

Lets stop the World Cup, the Tour and all other major sporting events where doping and corruption occurs so.

Talk about a hyperbole reaction to something.

If that's your position on sport, don't watch it.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Hopefully Rio will the last olympics

Lets stop the World Cup, the Tour and all other major sporting events where doping and corruption occurs so.

Talk about a hyperbole reaction to something.

If that's your position on sport, don't watch it.

You're right Gooner, its hyperbole, Athletics if not all Olympic sports have been found to driven by drugs, illegal payments, mafia styled hits, holes in the wall, fake urine, corruption from the very highest levels of sports admiration including those from the UK, along with Governments and of course its just hyperbole.

Seriously?

 

[gooner]

Re: Re:

Hopefully Rio will the last olympics

Lets stop the World Cup, the Tour and all other major sporting events where doping and corruption occurs so.

Talk about a hyperbole reaction to something.

If that's your position on sport, don't watch it.

You're right Gooner, its hyperbole, Athletics if not all Olympic sports have been found to driven by drugs, illegal payments, mafia styled hits, holes in the wall, fake urine, corruption from the very highest levels of sports admiration including those from the UK, along with Governments and of course its just hyperbole.

Seriously?

And you address it hog and make those accountable. That's not what I was referring to. It was the ending of the Olympics. I don't see that as a solution to anything. How many more sporting events should be banned if this is the yardstick to go by. That's a hyperbole, knee-jerk reaction to something.

Mutko covered up a dope test in football, corruption all over FIFA, Coe was also head of the Ethics Committee in the past and been the subject of Panorama investigation into his activities in that role. Should there be no more World Cups?

I suppose a ban on athletics events doesn't matter for some if they don't actually watch the meets.

 

[DirtyWorks]

This was posted on another site. Kind of amazing, really.
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

It will be a GSC athlete that goes sub-2 hour marathon inside a federation run by GSC athletes.

Szabo was part of a Romanian doping scandal uncovered by French police.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2404075/Athletics-Drugs-blow-for-Szabo.html

 

[DirtyWorks]

If we're lucky, Parliament doesn't take kindly to such public lies.

Web summary:

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1038534/coe-accused-of-accepting-advice-from-papa-diack-and-being-aware-of-iaaf-corruption

 

[gooner]

Yeah, the Szabo news is known for sometime.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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Yeah, the Szabo news is known for sometime.

Yeah the Szabo story is far from new. The aggregation of so many track and field dopers/winners all repped by GSC is just stunning. Not a second thought given to having Szabo there.

 

[gooner]

Re: Re:

Yeah, the Szabo news is known for sometime.

Yeah the Szabo story is far from new. The aggregation of so many track and field dopers/winners all repped by GSC is just stunning. Not a second thought given to having Szabo there.

Agree. Fair point.

 

[Brian Butterfield]

not cleans:
"Lord Coe could be recalled to parliament for Russian doping questions"
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/17/lord-coe-parliament-russian-doping-questions

 

[thehog]

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not cleans:
"Lord Coe could be recalled to parliament for Russian doping questions"
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/17/lord-coe-parliament-russian-doping-questions

I think Coe is teflon, his current strategy is to say nothing, parliament is the only thing that can make him speak.

We have certainly come a long way since;

Coe has described allegations of widespread doping in athletics as a "declaration of war" and says it is time to "come out fighting" to protect the sport's reputation.

 

[Freddythefrog]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/athletics/seb-coe-must-stay-says-dave-bedford-whose-email-has-given-the-iaaf-president-a-major-headache-a3274481.html

So Dave Bedford was quite happy the senior person he sent the email to did not open it up.

Does he spend most days sending emails that people don't read ?

 

[Zebadeedee]

Did Bedford ever receive a reply? Did any journalist 'phone him up and ask?

 

[Freddythefrog]

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

The tone of posting over at Letsrun has changed a lot over the last 3 years.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7387597

Loved all that stuff about Szabo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2404075/Athletics-Drugs-blow-for-Szabo.html

As good as Edita Rumsas "All that EPO and HGH was for my mother in law, who by the way does not live in France".

 

[thehog]

Re:

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

The tone of posting over at Letsrun has changed a lot over the last 3 years.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7387597

Loved all that stuff about Szabo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2404075/Athletics-Drugs-blow-for-Szabo.html

As good as Edita Rumsas "All that EPO and HGH was for my mother in law, who by the way does not live in France".

Thought this part was interesting on Lets Run;

Nick Davies, the former chief of staff to IAAF President Lord Sebastian Coe (3:47.33 miler) is also the man who wrote the 'plan B' email to Papa Massata Diack regarding covering up Russian doping and using the Lausanne lab of Dr. Martial Saugy as a Plan B. The lab of Dr. Saugy is where the 67 Russian samples were destroyed, preventing any future analysis (plan B).

Nick Davies is also now accused of receiving 30,000 in unknown currency from Papa Massata Diack for "UK press lobbying and to assuage his wife Jane Boulter-Davies". His wife used to work in the ANTI-DOPING unit of the IAAF. She is accused of receiving, or having knowledge of the alleged payment to her husband in the year 2013. She now works as an administrator for the IAAF athletes' commission.

The vice chairman of the IAAF athletes' commission is PAULA RADCLIFFE. She has also trained in Flagstaff, Arizona.

 

[sniper]

jeezus christ.
The only thing that surprises me when reading those kinds of links is why isn't the press or some investigative journalist all over it?
Looking for dirt on these people must be like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Lovin' this

".....There was also description of the scientific ‘deliverables’ that could bring about a sub-two-hour marathon by (Yannis) Pitsiladis...."

And NO, I did not put 'deliverables' in quotation marks (you just can't make this stuff up !)

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/#T4Yu24RV3LAjy9jG.99

Professor Yannis Pitsiladis has an established history of research into the importance of lifestyle and genetics for human health and performance.

See it was those fluffed pillows and those deeper mattresses that won the Dawg the Tour in '13.

http://about.brighton.ac.uk/sasm/about-us/contacting-staff/academic-staff/yp26/

Jeepers I know I am now cynical but look at that profile, if you had to come up with a new Michele Ferrari who was expert in what the tests would look for and how to beat them, this would be the profile the 2016 Ferrari would have.

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

The tone of posting over at Letsrun has changed a lot over the last 3 years.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7387597

Loved all that stuff about Szabo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2404075/Athletics-Drugs-blow-for-Szabo.html

As good as Edita Rumsas "All that EPO and HGH was for my mother in law, who by the way does not live in France".

I don't usually venture to lets run. I think the way they have their message boards set up is a bit of a quagmire, but it seems to be working quite well for them. They need to categorize their threads/discussions, as cycling news does. Anyway, since I am not often there, what was the usual 'tone?' Did people shy away from controversial topics like doping and corruption?

 

[blackcat]

we had Tamsyn Lewis interviewed on ABC breakfast tv in Australia, and she used to date (see:****) Seb Coe just like Jane Flemming the heptathlete from Australia, evidently he likes Australian women, and they like his personal circumstances...

well she was in no doubt that Seb was the man to clean up the sport, so Tamsyn must be right, and Seb is the man to clean up the sport. And he is very attractive, did I mention that?

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re: Re:

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/featured/galaxy-of-stars-attend-global-sports-communications-anniversary-41484/

The tone of posting over at Letsrun has changed a lot over the last 3 years.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7387597

Loved all that stuff about Szabo http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2404075/Athletics-Drugs-blow-for-Szabo.html

As good as Edita Rumsas "All that EPO and HGH was for my mother in law, who by the way does not live in France".

I don't usually venture to lets run. I think the way they have their message boards set up is a bit of a quagmire, but it seems to be working quite well for them. They need to categorize their threads/discussions, as cycling news does. Anyway, since I am not often there, what was the usual 'tone?' Did people shy away from controversial topics like doping and corruption?

It's hard to know the genuine tone of people who visit, because of the rampant trolling.

If I had to make a guess, it is like people in the Pro Cycling forum, those who purposely ignore the other side in the clinic. If you ask them "Is doping a problem?" they'll say "Yeah, everyone dopes, probably". But when you ask them specifically, they become apologists: "Is Farah doping" "No. Scientific training, etc.". "Is Kipchoge doping?" "No, talented from youth, etc.". "Is Dibaba doping" "No, superior genetics, etc."

I post there regularly, and am a little embarrassed to admit I have a registered name. There are a few posters/doping apologists there that have deliberately different values of testing results and circumstantial evidence. Better articulated than some clinic defenders, but starting with the wrong assumptions.

There are a lot of trolls, with posts on both ends of the spectrum, who are quite successful at stirring the hive.

 

[sniper]

The triplet Coe, Cookson, Reedie, supported by UK government. That's where the focus should be.

No doubt Russia too would have preferred this method: just get as many Russian administrators in key global sports governmental positions as possible. Would have made it much easier for them to cover their tracks.

Richard Ings on twitter stating "doping exists in other countries too, but Russia is way out there".
That's either ignorance or a deliberate manipulation of reality.

Also check Rob Harris' twitter account. So much gratuite Russia bashing, without any substantial reflection on UK's own state sponsored sports corruption.