Baron Coe, cleans?

[thehog]

Lord Coe really knows how to run his doping control at the Olympics:

 

[armchairclimber]

The other contributions were on recent pages.

 

[sniper]

Lord Coe really knows how to run his doping control at the Olympics:

Badly stored samples? How convenient.
Martial Saugy recently exonerated Brazilian football player Deco in front of CAS, saying the samples hadn't been properly stored so the positive test should be discarded.

armchairclimber: The other contributions were on recent pages.

cheers, will look at it.

 

[thehog]

Lord Coe really knows how to run his doping control at the Olympics:

Badly stored samples? How convenient.
Martial Saugy recently exonerated Brazilian football player Deco in front of CAS, saying the samples hadn't been properly stored so the positive test should be discarded.

armchairclimber: The other contributions were on recent pages.

cheers, will look at it.

Sorry Lord. We made an error and incorrectly stored all the UK athletes samples, now they can't be tested.

 

[armchairclimber]

I don't think that is going to do anything other than antagonise the journalists who are already onto him.

 

[arcus]

http://offtheball.newstalk.com/player/podcasts/-/Off_The_Ball_Highlights/121146/1/sunday_sports_pages_sinead_kissane__kieran_cunningham

Off the ball goes there, re: Coe and Radcliffe... Tonnes of good sense

 

[Zebadeedee]

A suggestion here that Lord Cleans has another undeclared business interest:-

http://leastthing.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/sebastian-coes-conflicts-of-interest-at.html

I would have thought the Nike deal alone would have brought him into conflict with the rules.

 

[Freddythefrog]

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http://offtheball.newstalk.com/player/podcasts/-/Off_The_Ball_Highlights/121146/1/sunday_sports_pages_sinead_kissane__kieran_cunningham

Off the ball goes there, re: Coe and Radcliffe... Tonnes of good sense

That was a great podcast. I particularly was intrigued about the comment that the conclusions to the IC part 2 were changed at the last minute taking the IAAF from "non code compliant" to "compliant". The suggestion that the fallout would have been so large for Rio with T&F in terms of sponsors leaving made it all too big a pill to swallow. But that if the same report had been received in the first or second year after an Olympic games would have allowed the "non-compliant" conclusion to stand.

It all adds to the theory that just as for individuals like Bolt and others who are "too big to fail" so the IAAF was, at this point in the calendar, too big to be seen to be failing.

A large number of clean athletes will disagree. They just don't get a voice.

 

[sniper]

who'd have thunk?
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690524355114172416
wasn't that one of those outrageous anti-british conspiracy theories?

Of course none of that applies to Reedie and Cookson.

 

[Benotti69]

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who'd have thunk?
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690524355114172416
wasn't that one of those outrageous anti-british conspiracy theories?

Of course none of that applies to Reedie and Cookson.

Now that is just not cricket, by jove!

 

[BullsFan22]

Re: Re:

who'd have thunk?
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690524355114172416
wasn't that one of those outrageous anti-british conspiracy theories?

Of course none of that applies to Reedie and Cookson.

Now that is just not cricket, by jove!

So the UK government, lobbied for Coe to get elected and he in essence helped cover up doping practices right across the IAAF? If all of this is true, then the UK government and Coe are just as corrupt as any of the federations involved in corruption at the IAAF, perhaps even more so. How can we expect sports to be free of corruption and athletes to compete 'clean' when you have stuff like this going on?

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

who'd have thunk?
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690524355114172416
wasn't that one of those outrageous anti-british conspiracy theories?

Of course none of that applies to Reedie and Cookson.

Now that is just not cricket, by jove!

So the UK government, lobbied for Coe to get elected and he in essence helped cover up doping practices right across the IAAF? If all of this is true, then the UK government and Coe are just as corrupt as any of the federations involved in corruption at the IAAF, perhaps even more so. How can we expect sports to be free of corruption and athletes to compete 'clean' when you have stuff like this going on?

in fact the doping angle is explicitly mentioned (alongside other interests) in that leaked email (or is it multiple emails? not sure)

 

[gillan1969]

well, first job..get PR off the hook - check

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

who'd have thunk?
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690524355114172416
wasn't that one of those outrageous anti-british conspiracy theories?

Of course none of that applies to Reedie and Cookson.

Now that is just not cricket, by jove!

So the UK government, lobbied for Coe to get elected and he in essence helped cover up doping practices right across the IAAF? If all of this is true, then the UK government and Coe are just as corrupt as any of the federations involved in corruption at the IAAF, perhaps even more so. How can we expect sports to be free of corruption and athletes to compete 'clean' when you have stuff like this going on?

It's impressive isn't it?

 

[The Carrot]

And people on here are criticised for being 'conspiracy theorists'!

Looks like sport is politics by other means.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Yes - we are the conspiracy theorists ! Sure. Err - no, we just look at unbelievable performances and think they are unbelievable performances.
Continuing ...
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690538991393882114

The tweet above about the emails to Seb in December 2014 are damning. I suppose he can claim he never read the email, but that does leave "asleep at the wheel - for several months - as fire engulfed the bus " the only valid conclusion. If he read them and was running for Pres, he would have had to have asked Davies to brief him on the allegations. Those emails tend to leave the August 2015 statement "they have declared war on my sport", quote nowhere to hide. That quote and the posturing that "I did not know", really do look like knowledgeable deceit given the factual evidence now appearing.

But of course so many of us here just like to see only the negative; think of all the good .............

Hope D i c k Pound is watching ......!

 

[thehog]

Re:

Yes - we are the conspiracy theorists ! Sure. Err - no, we just look at unbelievable performances and think they are unbelievable performances.
Continuing ...
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690538991393882114

The tweet above about the emails to Seb in December 2014 are damning. I suppose he can claim he never read the email, but that does leave "asleep at the wheel - for several months - as fire engulfed the bus " the only valid conclusion. If he read them and was running for Pres, he would have had to have asked Davies to brief him on the allegations. Those emails tend to leave the August 2015 statement "they have declared war on my sport", quote nowhere to hide. That quote and the posturing that "I did not know", really do look like knowledgeable deceit given the factual evidence now appearing.

But of course so many of us here just like to see only the negative; think of all the good .............

Hope D i c k Pound is watching ......!

Impressive work all round by Coe. He has managed to be knee deep in he corruption, then tried to sweep it all under the carpet, when found out he then went on a PR campaign to make it look like he was here to save the day.

That is amazing. Only in the UK can you do something this cynical and ballsed up

 

[armchairclimber]

Re: Re:

Yes - we are the conspiracy theorists ! Sure. Err - no, we just look at unbelievable performances and think they are unbelievable performances.
Continuing ...
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690538991393882114

The tweet above about the emails to Seb in December 2014 are damning. I suppose he can claim he never read the email, but that does leave "asleep at the wheel - for several months - as fire engulfed the bus " the only valid conclusion. If he read them and was running for Pres, he would have had to have asked Davies to brief him on the allegations. Those emails tend to leave the August 2015 statement "they have declared war on my sport", quote nowhere to hide. That quote and the posturing that "I did not know", really do look like knowledgeable deceit given the factual evidence now appearing.

But of course so many of us here just like to see only the negative; think of all the good .............

Hope D i c k Pound is watching ......!

Impressive work all round by Coe. He has managed to be knee deep in he corruption, then tried to sweep it all under the carpet, when found out he then went on a PR campaign to make it look like he was here to save the day.

That is amazing. Only in the UK can you do something this cynical and ballsed up

Well, I can point to many places where you can do something that cynical and ballsed up. I am rather hopeful though that the British trait of "build em up to knock em down" is in play. I think there are enough predatory journalists sniffing around now that he won't ever come out smelling of roses ... and my perception is that Coe's public standing is pretty much in ruins already.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Yes - we are the conspiracy theorists ! Sure. Err - no, we just look at unbelievable performances and think they are unbelievable performances.
Continuing ...
https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/690538991393882114

The tweet above about the emails to Seb in December 2014 are damning. I suppose he can claim he never read the email, but that does leave "asleep at the wheel - for several months - as fire engulfed the bus " the only valid conclusion. If he read them and was running for Pres, he would have had to have asked Davies to brief him on the allegations. Those emails tend to leave the August 2015 statement "they have declared war on my sport", quote nowhere to hide. That quote and the posturing that "I did not know", really do look like knowledgeable deceit given the factual evidence now appearing.

But of course so many of us here just like to see only the negative; think of all the good .............

Hope D i c k Pound is watching ......!

Impressive work all round by Coe. He has managed to be knee deep in he corruption, then tried to sweep it all under the carpet, when found out he then went on a PR campaign to make it look like he was here to save the day.

That is amazing. Only in the UK can you do something this cynical and ballsed up

Well, I can point to many places where you can do something that cynical and ballsed up. I am rather hopeful though that the British trait of "build em up to knock em down" is in play. I think there are enough predatory journalists sniffing around now that he won't ever come out smelling of roses ... and my perception is that Coe's public standing is pretty much in ruins already.

Now ADeeDas has dropped out. I'm sure Nike will jump in and save the day now

Adidas, the IAAF's biggest sponsor, has told athletics' world governing body it is to terminate their sponsorship deal four years early, the BBC has learned.

The sportswear giant informed the IAAF of its decision - understood to be a direct result of the doping scandal sweeping the sport - earlier this week.

Sources have told the BBC the move will result in tens of millions of dollars in lost income to the IAAF.

 

[armchairclimber]

That was my first thought when I heard this on the radio in the middle of the night. Surely Coe wouldn't consider anything quite that brazen/stupid.

 

[heart_attack_man]

Re:

That was my first thought when I heard this on the radio in the middle of the night. Surely Coe wouldn't consider anything quite that brazen/stupid.

Why not? This sort of thing is the usual modus operandi for those at the top of the IF's... See Sepp Blatter, Hein Verbruggen et al.

I would expect that he will be exactly this brazen - not stupid though.

 

[Benotti69]

So Coe's lawyer who threatened Heppelt is now part of the IAAF investigation into Russian doping. Oh the circus just gets better and better.....

 

[The Carrot]

So everyone at the IAAF knew what was going on except Coe. Sounds a bit like Sir Dave being the only man in Pro cycling who didn't know what Geert Leinders did.

 

[thehog]

Re:

So Coe's lawyer who threatened Heppelt is now part of the IAAF investigation into Russian doping. Oh the circus just gets better and better.....

I've been in a dark hole...

What happened? What had Coe done now?

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

So Coe's lawyer who threatened Heppelt is now part of the IAAF investigation into Russian doping. Oh the circus just gets better and better.....

I've been in a dark hole...

What happened? What had Coe done now?

It's about the 'independent' commission who're supposed to check whether Russia is properly implementing Pound's recommendations. One of them is Coe's lawyer.

Froome 'independent' testing. *** Pound's 'independent' report. UCI 'independent' antidoping.
Now the 'independent commission' for Russia, totally compromised.

The word independent has officially become meaningless in the context of topsport.