Betsy Andreu Is A National Treasure

[andy1234]

e·lic·it/iˈlisit/Verb
1. Evoke or draw out (a response or fact) from someone by actions or questions: "their moves elicit exclamations of approval".
2. Draw forth (something that is latent or potential) into existence: "war elicits all that is bad in us".

so·lic·it/səˈlisit/Verb
1. Ask for or try to obtain (something) from someone.
2. Ask (someone) for something: "he solicited the critic's opinion".

He was not asking for a response. He was making a statement meant to get a response. You can keep arguing, but you are wrong. Admit it and move on. It's a fine line, and you are on the wrong side of it.

Words.Have.Meaning.

It depends on the source of your definition dufus.

To solicit a response is to request it. To elicit a response is to get it.

If you create a post that is deliberately provocative, it solicits a response.

Get it?

Let me guess, you are a student of some sort? These sort of things are important when you are trying to make your way in the world.
When you get out into the real world, not so much.

 

[Anonymous]

It depends on the source of your definition dufus.

To solicit a response is to request it. To elicit a response is to get it.

If you create a post that is deliberately provocative, it solicits a response.

Get it?

Let me guess, you are a student of some sort? These sort of things are important when you are trying to make your way in the world.
When you get out into the real world, not so much.

No, you don't know what you are talking about. You just continue to prove over and over that word meanings are optional to you, but that doesn't change the fact that the word you should have used is "elicit."

Hey, you want to keep looking like a fool, don't let me stand in the way. Fell free tiger.

As for who I am, and what I do, lets just say that what I do necessitates using words in their specific context and precise meaning. If they aren't, there is no end to the difficulties they can cause. In the "real world" words have meanings. You want to free ball it and argue when you are wrong. Again, don't let me stop your ignorance. I am happy to watch and laugh a mocking laugh every time you post.

Toodles!

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

No, you don't know what you are talking about. You just continue to prove over and over that word meanings are optional to you, but that doesn't change the fact that the word you should have used is "elicit."

Hey, you want to keep looking like a fool, don't let me stand in the way. Fell free tiger.

As for who I am, and what I do, lets just say that what I do necessitates using words in their specific context and precise meaning. If they aren't, there is no end to the difficulties they can cause. In the "real world" words have meanings. You want to free ball it and argue when you are wrong. Again, don't let me stop your ignorance. I am happy to watch and laugh a mocking laugh every time you post.

Toodles!

TFF Why cant' you aint not except that your jist a hater and a moran?

 

[The Hitch]

No, it isn't.

As for nationalism, how did that British Empire thing turn out?

What language are you speaking

 

[patricknd]

give me Lizzie Andreu over Lizzie Windsor anyday

Or Lizzie borden

 

[skippythepinhead]

Oh my God, the proper word is "elicit." Move on.

The only thing wrong with the thread title is it should be "International Treasure."

 

[Anonymous]

what language are you speaking

Touche!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Anonymous]

TFF Why cant' you aint not except that your jist a hater and a moran?

Because it's the moran who is always the last to know...I remain blissfully unaware.

 

[Sørensen]

What language are you speaking

A version of North Germanic and Old Norse (Danish) I Assume

 

[Anonymous]

A version of North Germanic and Old Norse (Danish) I Assume

I am going to stand back and watch the smart people fight this one out.

 

[Sørensen]

I am going to stand back and watch the smart people fight this one out.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/122361/Sweden-vs-GreatBritain-Nightclubs

tee-hee

 

[tubularglue]

Not only did she tell the truth, she told it while Armstrong was sitting there watching her deposition. This took place in a hotel room in Detroit, and Lance flew there solely for this purpose (i.e. to be there when Frankie and Betsy were deposed).

Nothing like trying to intimidate the witness.

As a result, of course, she told the truth to his face.

Dave.

did not know that

 

[elizab]

for the real haters out there -

andy, flicker, zigwhatever, polish,
If you would oblige me with intelligent dialogue. If you don't know how much I hated the doping culture, read David Walsh's book.
What I'd really like to know is in your opinions, should I have lied for Lance whether it be under oath or to whomever. Should I have lied for Lance?

 

[Kender]

andy, flicker, zigwhatever, polish,
If you would oblige me with intelligent dialogue. If you don't know how much I hated the doping culture, read David Walsh's book.
What I'd really like to know is in your opinions, should I have lied for Lance whether it be under oath or to whomever. Should I have lied for Lance?

Betsy has won this thread

To answer Yes, that implies she's been telling the truth all along (lying would benefit Lance)
To Answer No means she has been telling the truth all along (as what she said did not benefit Lance)

 

[Anonymous]

andy, flicker, zigwhatever, polish,
If you would oblige me with intelligent dialogue. If you don't know how much I hated the doping culture, read David Walsh's book.
What I'd really like to know is in your opinions, should I have lied for Lance whether it be under oath or to whomever. Should I have lied for Lance?

BTW, heard about Versus not continuing to employ Frankie for TdF. Many of us didn't watch because of P&P anyway, but rest assured that there will be many who boycott them. With everything that is happening, I am wondering how much longer they will be covering it anyway. They are losing their fanbase.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Thank you for pointing that out .... Betsy is the point of this thread and in the End her words ring true.

If you were hurt by my use of the "Camel Toe" then I apologize. you should have PM'ed me. I can only say that you must not know the meaning of a Moose Knuckle. I am sorry if I offended you.

appreciate the manly reply and apology G. yes, next time I'll pm, and you also about the bad TR remark.

man, I leave for the night and when I come back the next day ...wow.

but Betsy rocks

 

[Semper Fidelis]

andy, flicker, zigwhatever, polish,
If you would oblige me with intelligent dialogue. If you don't know how much I hated the doping culture, read David Walsh's book.
What I'd really like to know is in your opinions, should I have lied for Lance whether it be under oath or to whomever. Should I have lied for Lance?

Dialogue umm are you sure you want that with that list?

Never ....your truth approach brought you NO immediate friends from the Lance side but in the End as you said and as you know...YOU WERE TRUE to yourself. Mad ddddddd Props. That is a tough road to TRAVEL.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

appreciate the manly reply and apology G. yes, next time I'll pm, and you also about the bad TR remark.

man, I leave for the night and when I come back the next day ...wow.

but Betsy rocks

WoW..Cool.peace

 

[mewmewmew13]

whomever said this thread should be called the 'International Treasure' a few pages back was wrong....
it's now turning into 'International House of Pancakes'.

There is no sense left in here...

 

[ChrisE]

andy, flicker, zigwhatever, polish,
If you would oblige me with intelligent dialogue. If you don't know how much I hated the doping culture, read David Walsh's book.
What I'd really like to know is in your opinions, should I have lied for Lance whether it be under oath or to whomever. Should I have lied for Lance?

I gotta few questions.

You witnessed LA saying something in a hospital room in 1996. OK.

Why are you relevant to the current investigation? Why were you relevant to SCA, which dealt with whether or not he won 5 tours in a row? Why is what he said in 1996 relevant to any of this?

And why are you all over the internet? I did a search last year for some SCA testimony and got a comment section of some newspaper, and there you were parrotting the same thing you have been parrotting since DPF.

What do you have on your computer that alerts you to what is happening on the web? You have accused others of that before, so how are you so omniscient?

Hopefully you can answer these questions before your fanboys jump in to defend your honor. Thanks.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I gotta few questions.

You witnessed LA saying something in a hospital room in 1996. OK.

Why are you relevant to the current investigation? Why were you relevant to SCA, which dealt with whether or not he won 5 tours in a row? Why is what he said in 1996 relevant to any of this?

To the current investigation - it would help establish when LA started using PEDs and how long the deceit was going on for.
To the SCA case - because that case was brought directly because of the book LA Confidential in which the 'Hospital Room' was a key component.

(You would know that if you read FLTL.)

And why are you all over the internet? I did a search last year for some SCA testimony and got a comment section of some newspaper, and there you were parrotting the same thing you have been parrotting since DPF.

I can let Betsy answer that herself - but as it was an article related to the SCA case that she was a part of, I am going to take a wild guess that she followed that story, why should she not comment?

In fact it makes more sense that she would find an article than you finding it.

What do you have on your computer that alerts you to what is happening on the web? You have accused others of that before, so how are you so omniscient?

Its not at all difficult to set up news alerts.

Hopefully you can answer these questions before your fanboys jump in to defend your honor. Thanks.

Nice try.

 

[ChrisE]

Why don't you lay off the ChrisE stalking/trolling for awhile, and let her answer the questions? What are you scared of? Is the chivalrous know it all coming to rescue the damsel?

FYI, in case you didn't know, SCA dealt with payment for winning 5 tours. Those started in 1999, not in a hospital bed in 1996.

As for the alerts, maybe she can confirm that is what she does.

Nice try.

 

[patricknd]

To the current investigation - it would help establish when LA started using PEDs and how long the deceit was going on for.
To the SCA case - because that case was brought directly because of the book LA Confidential in which the 'Hospital Room' was a key component.

(You would know that if you read FLTL.)

I can let Betsy answer that herself - but as it was an article related to the SCA case that she was a part of, I am going to take a wild guess that she followed that story, why should she not comment?

In fact it makes more sense that she would find an article than you finding it.


Its not at all difficult to set up news alerts.


Nice try.

but can you speak while she drinks a glass of water? that would be a cool trick, wouldn't it?

 

[elizab]

I gotta few questions.

You witnessed LA saying something in a hospital room in 1996. OK.

Why are you relevant to the current investigation? Why were you relevant to SCA, which dealt with whether or not he won 5 tours in a row? Why is what he said in 1996 relevant to any of this?

And why are you all over the internet? I did a search last year for some SCA testimony and got a comment section of some newspaper, and there you were parrotting the same thing you have been parrotting since DPF.

What do you have on your computer that alerts you to what is happening on the web? You have accused others of that before, so how are you so omniscient?

Hopefully you can answer these questions before your fanboys jump in to defend your honor. Thanks.

*Why don't you call the DOJ and ask them as the answer to your first 3 questions.
* All over the internet? You surely jest. "Parrotting the same thing". You have the option to not read. If you don't think I should be quoted, then write the journalist and say they should've never called me. To presume I have alerts really is presumptuous.
* How many times have I even posted here in the last few months? Hardly ever.
I'd opine someone is a hater and jealous but I won't go there.
Hatred for the truth and to expect people to commit felonies because they can't handle or don't care about the truth says a heck of a lot more about them/you than it does anything else.
So much for the intelligent dialogue.

 

[Polish]

Should I have lied for Lance?

No, I do not think you should have lied for Lance.
But what do I know about lying.
Not that much really.

How about St Augustine?
He gave it much more thought....

He group lies into 8 classes.
Least forgivable #1....down to most forgivable #8

1) Lies told in teaching religion
2) Lies which hurt someone and help nobody
3) Lies which hurt someone but benefit someone else
4) Lies told for the pleasure of deceiving someone
5) Lies told to please others in conversation
6) Lies which hurt nobody and benefit someone
7) Lies which hurt nobody and benefit someone by keeping open the possibility of their repentance
8) Lies which hurt nobody and protect a person from physical 'defilement'

Thomas Aquinas also thought a bit about lying - he put together a "hierarchy of lies"...he felt those at the bottom could be forgiven:

Malicious lies: lies told to do harm
Malicious lies are mortal sins

'Jocose lies': lies told in fun
These are pardonable

'Officious' or helpful lies
These are pardonable

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/lying/lying_1.shtml#h3

Finally, there is George Castanza.
His philosophy was:

Just remember. It's not a lie... if you believe it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

To tell you the truth, I have no idea how St Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, or George Castanza would have testified at the SCA trial if Lance had allowed them entry into the hospital room way back when.

Well, George probably would have lied lol.