British Doctor claims he doped 150 sports stars including Br

[TheGreenMonkey]

This doctor is obviously a dodgy as possible but whether he is a big noting liar or a true doping doper of significance is hard to know. Will be very interesting to see what happens from here.
If this is really true then he claims to have treated footballer, cricketers, cyclists, boxers and tennis players so it could be huge, or it could be he mostly treated athletes on the fringes of professional sport.

 

[Vino's Mum]

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Um, no. In this country, the truth is not a watertight defence to a libel action, so just...no.

It is. Where's your LL.B. from, the University of Google?

Nice jibe. Now try reading my post.

lol, as I thought.

It's a basic tenet of English law - now strengthened by Section 2 of the Act you mention - hence my reply. Not sure how you're not getting this, but I'll have to start charging you for my time if I go on, so I'll leave it there.

 

[Franklin]

The "funny" thing will be when this guy mentions no Sky racer or only a scrub people will scream how this shows Sky is clean.

Look at how Sam desperately tries to bring in Leinders, somehow suggesting this makes the Leinders problem go away.

 

[Fedoracore]

Yesterday they made us think this was going to be huge. Today I am really disappointed, I've heard nothing else than assumptions and speculations caused by some vague words of some weirdo Frankenstein doctor.

I still pray for the day Fuentes and Ferrari are going to speak.

 

[thehog]

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The "funny" thing will be when this guy mentions no Sky racer or only a scrub people will scream how this shows Sky is clean.

Look at how Sam desperately tries to bring in Leinders, somehow suggesting this makes the Leinders problem go away.

Simariarly to the Lance days, the fans only have themselves to blame. There is total denial that doping exists in Britian and that they also participate in the cover up of doping.

It's almost too funny.

 

[samhocking]

I accept doping to exist, what I don't accept is a British Tour de France rider or especially Sky would be going to http://www.tenharleystreet.co.uk/ to buy his PEDs from Dr Bonar who specialises in anti-ageing treatment and struck off BMC list.

 

[Cake]

Re: British Doctor claims he doped 150 sports stars includin

Got news on the #doping story. Stay tuned for teams & names.

Leicester: Mahrez, Kante, Okazaki, Drinkwater
Arsenal: Welbeck and Gabriel
Chelsea: Traore, Willian, Costa
Spurs: Alli, Toby and Lamela

https://twitter.com/Ainsworth1980/status/716373169637101568

Surely someone working for a professional organisation such as ESPN wouldn't be daft enough to put up specific names in a public forum unless he had evidence? Are ESPN the Sunday Times' partners in this investigation does anyone know?

 

[Chaddy]

Claiming to work for ESPN and actually working for them are two different things.

All that comes up when you google his name are a load of transfers rumors which he claims as fact

 

[wansteadimp]

The list of footballers is not right out of the top drawer, good players but not proper superstars. if I was bullsh!tting someone I'd come up with some really top level names.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I'm sure the Fish Hack is all over this story. LOL

This has to somehow link back to Lance Armstrong?

 

[GuyIncognito]

Not Daniel Ainsworth again, people.
It's a fake account, he doesn't work for ESPN, even ESPN put out a release clarifying that.

It's just some guy spreading rumours for fun.

 

[WildspokeJoe]

150 stars? No way. Sorry. This is the papers blowing up the story to sell more paper, get more clicks.
As in the story with American Football Star Peyton Manning. You may get one 'star' accused and then a bunch of other minor athletes.

I am holding judgement until I actually see names.

 

[Maxiton]

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I'm sure the Fish Hack is all over this story. LOL

This has to somehow link back to Lance Armstrong?

If it does, Walsh will be right on it.

 

[Cannibal72]

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Um, no. In this country, the truth is not a watertight defence to a libel action, so just...no.

It is. Where's your LL.B. from, the University of Google?

Nice jibe. Now try reading my post.

lol, as I thought.

It's a basic tenet of English law - now strengthened by Section 2 of the Act you mention - hence my reply. Not sure how you're not getting this, but I'll have to start charging you for my time if I go on, so I'll leave it there.

'Being the truth' and 'being able to prove it's true' are different issues, firstly.
Also, as you're doubtless aware, the Sunday Times is a member of IPSO, and I believe their policy now is that their members must pay the costs (as substantial as yours are, I guess ) of the claimant in their (quasi-compulsory) arbitration scheme - even if the newspaper wins. That's quite a major disincentive to name names, don't you think?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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Also, I thought everyone in the clinic thinks Leinders was the reason for British Tour de France winner ; )

Long list of people who fought like crazy on message boards way back in 2000-2009 would say your arguments will most likely fail. It's Pro cyclist you are defending.

 

[kwikki]

Big on the news here in GB with government minister calling for an inquiry. I think this one will run after the IAA scandal (and the Fifa scandal). Seems to be mostly attracting attention because of football connection. No surprise here as it's probably assumed that all cyclists dope anyway. No word from UCI or Cookson yet. Bloody better be, since UK TdF rider(s) implicated.

Small point of order with thread title, Dr Bonar (soon to be ex-Dr....GMC hearing next week for the cancer stuff) is Irish not British.

Info on hearing here:

http://www.mpts-uk.org/about/news/1766.asp

 

[Elagabalus]

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I accept doping to exist, what I don't accept is a British Tour de France rider or especially Sky would be going to http://www.tenharleystreet.co.uk/ to buy his PEDs from Dr Bonar who specialises in anti-ageing treatment and struck off BMC list.

Ewww ... that's bad. Looks like they got a deal on some furniture when the local Denny's™ was remodeling ...

 

[Elagabalus]

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... Sure, he's an anti-aging doc, but his Twitter pic is either Photochopped or he has a portrait of his real self in the attic ...

LOLZ !!

 

[arcus]

As a doping doctor, he doesn't strike me as convincing in that clip ... Seems to lack the knowledge. Nothing like the guys in the Al Jazeera documentary.

lol at doping an athlete with an ultra-long acting depo testosterone preparation .

 

[Elagabalus]

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All lies. There is no need to investigate this one.

Awful lot of denial going on around here. Soon we'll be at "never tested positive".

The article certainly proves a few points;

PED use at a top level is a alive and well in Britain, testing is not working as no one is testing positive, prescribing PED drugs is very simple and unsanctionable by UKAD, the doping authority in Britain turns a blind eye to doping or possible doping, UKAD is powerless, anti-doping is PR, all sports are doping just like they always have. Nothing has changed.

Not disagreeing with you, but I will cynically point out that if the athletes are not sufficiently top tier enough the fans will logically conclude that these few bad apples are just some wannabees and that real British athletes don't dope!

 

[thehog]

Re: British Doctor claims he doped 150 sports stars includin

Super easy to get EPO in Britain. Might have Kenyans and Russians training in London from now on?

 

[Random Direction]

The immediate obfuscation, minimizing and compartmentaliation of some here when the story broke is most interesting. Closely matches the PR response model from a certain banned cyclist? If so, then which power that be within UK sport, UK AD, British cycling or Sky is giving directions? Noting that the response is not a risk management one of openness, transparency, engaging stakeholders, etc that would indicate a genuine desire to get to the bottom of the issue, if any.

 

[homer133]

Re: British Doctor claims he doped 150 sports stars includin

Here is the documentary from Hajo Seppelt about this case:

http://www.sportschau.de/doping/video-auch-premier-league-spieler-unter-dopingverdacht-102.html

An English version should appear there soon

 

[Schurter]

http://cycling-today.com/doctor-claims-he-doped-150-sports-stars-including-tour-de-france-cyclists/

 

[Inquitus]

This story is going nowhere, for all the hype, it's all hype and no substance, certainly not enough that anyone will ever be punished off the back of it which is a shame, I am certain there is rampant doping in football and this would have been a great way to get that out in the open, unfortunately it's just a pretty sad already disgraced doctor trying pitching a load of unstantiable claims to the Sunday Times.