Teams & Riders Brothers in (crank) arms - Yates Discussion Thread

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Really nice ride today - started so far back, if he'd been protected and well positioned he'd have gone with Martin if not Froome.

Bodes well if he's already comfortably top 10 in the Tour on those sorts of finishes - hard to see who is going to be allowed in a breakaway that'll be any better in the last 2 weeks.

 

[SeriousSam]

Does bode well indeed. He might actually win a stage this Tour.

 

[SlickMongoose]

I hope Orica can get Simon in a better position for the Mur de Bretagne stage, he could do well there.

Also hoping that Adam is peaking for week 3.

 

[Eagle]

Simon was involved in the crash as well
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/disastrous-day-for-orica-greenedge-at-tour-de-france

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Nails these boys

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/tour-de-france/yates-brothers-show-their-quality-during-difficult-tour-de-france-opening-181046

Nice article - good to see Simon knew he could have done even better yesterday

 

[Alexandre B.]

General classification

 

[SlickMongoose]

Re:

General classification

They've got the top 50 just where they want them.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Hard to blame the other GC riders trying to take advantage of cross winds and cobbles. They're going to need a buffer come the climbs

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

Yeah I found that strange, it's not that long ago since Tirreno is it?

I look forward to seeing what these boys can do in the next 2 weeks.

 

[SlickMongoose]

Wrong Yates for this sort of climb though, I would have thought.

Looking forward to seeing them in the mountains.

 

[jaylew]

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Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

Wasn't Simon in the same group?

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

Wasn't Simon in the same group?

It looked like Adam was trying to set Simon up a la Sanchez and Gilbert. Simon followed Sagan's wheel and didn't try to attack like Vuillemoz, probably because he thought Sagan would follow him.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Re: Re:

Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

Wasn't Simon in the same group?

Yep, but Adam got the better placing today - the point is just that for those with memories longer than 3 months, there isn't a 'better' brother at this point

 

[jaylew]

Re: Re:

Another decent day - nice to see Adam at the front, lots of uninformed chat that Simon was stronger since he was injured by Basque idiocy.

Wasn't Simon in the same group?

Yep, but Adam got the better placing today - the point is just that for those with memories longer than 3 months, there isn't a 'better' brother at this point

I'd agree with that. I don't think either bro has clearly distinguished himself above the other. I don't even think we can say with any certainty what kind of rider either will be just yet.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/tour-de-france/simon-yates-calls-tour-de-france-time-trial-a-rest-for-his-stricken-team-181964

Good approach with 2 days off, then it sounds like they intend to be a factor either in a break or just from the peloton.

 

[SlickMongoose]

It's going to be tough for them to get a stage win, but hopefully they can at least animate the race in the mountains, and Simon showed a great sprint in the dauphine at the end of the last stage, which should help. I think KoM would be a reasonable goal as well. Hopefully the rest has helped!

I don't think stage 10 is likely, though. I doesn't lend itself to the breakaway with that big section of flat before the climb. 11 and 12 look much more break-friendly.

 

[SlickMongoose]

What a ride from Adam. 7th ahead of Contador, Nibali, Van Garderen, etc.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Brilliant ride from Adam today, showing the climbing form he showed in Tirreno. 7th on that stage today was a great effort

 

[DBotero]

These 2 are hard to set apart,good ride for Adam today.I still believe that one of them will grab a stage somehow.

“I thought at the beginning of this Tour that a stage win was always possible,” said Yates after the stage. “I’ve shown in the past that I can climb with some of the best guys in world when I’m on a good day, it’s just that the Tour de France is another step up. We’ll try again another day.”
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/raci...at-contador-and-nibali-in-the-pyrenees-182482

 

[SlickMongoose]

I'm assuming Simon was saving himself for the break tomorrow.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Simon has had a cold apparently so not at his best the last couple of days.

Great ride today from Adam; they're both likely to be the strongest climber in any break they're in so it's just about taking chances and getting lucky really.

Given that ride today, this should be the last GT where Adam ever willingly gives up time and chases stages for quite some time.

 

[TMP402]

The Yates' sometimes seem to have bad positioning. On today's stage when the group had been whittled down to 30 or so, Adam was about the 5th man from the back. Clearly he is not only the 25th strongest rider so he could and should move up to give himself the chance to mark and follow a strong attack, eg Gesink or Valls' today. It seems like their gameplan is often to let the real overall contenders attack, then get into a group of second tier climbers like Valverde, Rodriguez, Mollema etc and then attack from the group to finish an impressive fifth a couple of minutes after the real stage win has already been decided. If Adam had been near the front today, it's possible he could have gone with Gesink, attacked him, and then even if he couldn't outpace him he might have linked up with Froome, who has in the past been generous enough to offer others the stage in return for helping him.

 

[fungusbear]

Would be surprised if Adam could have climbed with Froome though.

Anyway great ride by him today- really excited by these twins! Thinking that they have a great chance for at least one stage win (either of them). Will Adam ride with GC boys often? Or was this just to test the legs?