“It’s normal that a 22-year-old doesn’t have back-to-back good days in the mountains at the Tour de France,” White said. “This is all part of the development and the reason we have said all along we wouldn’t be putting on the pressure by riding for general classification.
What? You think he could have gone with Froome or even Quintana?TMP402 said:The Yates' sometimes seem to have bad positioning. On today's stage when the group had been whittled down to 30 or so, Adam was about the 5th man from the back. Clearly he is not only the 25th strongest rider so he could and should move up to give himself the chance to mark and follow a strong attack, eg Gesink or Valls' today. It seems like their gameplan is often to let the real overall contenders attack, then get into a group of second tier climbers like Valverde, Rodriguez, Mollema etc and then attack from the group to finish an impressive fifth a couple of minutes after the real stage win has already been decided. If Adam had been near the front today, it's possible he could have gone with Gesink, attacked him, and then even if he couldn't outpace him he might have linked up with Froome, who has in the past been generous enough to offer others the stage in return for helping him.
Adam said after yesterday he was feeling good but then could not follow Porte when he accelerated, in fairness only Quintana and Froome could. He said he just focused on riding his own tempo and it got him a good finish in the end. Wise words and actions from a 22 year-old, already learning not to blow himself up.Bushman said:What? You think he could have gone with Froome or even Quintana?TMP402 said:The Yates' sometimes seem to have bad positioning. On today's stage when the group had been whittled down to 30 or so, Adam was about the 5th man from the back. Clearly he is not only the 25th strongest rider so he could and should move up to give himself the chance to mark and follow a strong attack, eg Gesink or Valls' today. It seems like their gameplan is often to let the real overall contenders attack, then get into a group of second tier climbers like Valverde, Rodriguez, Mollema etc and then attack from the group to finish an impressive fifth a couple of minutes after the real stage win has already been decided. If Adam had been near the front today, it's possible he could have gone with Gesink, attacked him, and then even if he couldn't outpace him he might have linked up with Froome, who has in the past been generous enough to offer others the stage in return for helping him.that's ridiculous
Well as I said he would have been sufficiently ahead of Froome for Froome alone to link up with him. Note Ventoux '13 when Froome attacked Contador, got up to Quintana, spoke to him, apparently offering him the stage if he took turns, Quintana refused, so Froome attacked him and finished comfortably ahead. So even though Froome was stronger he was prepared to give Quintana the stage. I don't think it's so crazy to think Yates could have done better than 7th yesterday.Bushman said:What? You think he could have gone with Froome or even Quintana?TMP402 said:The Yates' sometimes seem to have bad positioning. On today's stage when the group had been whittled down to 30 or so, Adam was about the 5th man from the back. Clearly he is not only the 25th strongest rider so he could and should move up to give himself the chance to mark and follow a strong attack, eg Gesink or Valls' today. It seems like their gameplan is often to let the real overall contenders attack, then get into a group of second tier climbers like Valverde, Rodriguez, Mollema etc and then attack from the group to finish an impressive fifth a couple of minutes after the real stage win has already been decided. If Adam had been near the front today, it's possible he could have gone with Gesink, attacked him, and then even if he couldn't outpace him he might have linked up with Froome, who has in the past been generous enough to offer others the stage in return for helping him.that's ridiculous
When you go stage hunting in breaks it's all luck. He got into the original break of 20-odd riders but they weren't given the rope to go on so had to break away again. They were never going to survive with just the few of them especially with Sagan in the break and most of the sprinters making it over the climbs.DBotero said:Well,Adam step up today but i think he didn't chose the right day.
Yep, the chance of breakaway win on this stage was very poor, but Im sure he will try something again after 2nd rest dayDBotero said:Well,Adam step up today but i think he didn't chose the right day.
Hopefully the latter. I think both Twins should try and get in the break tomorrow for a 1-2 punch.Poursuivant said:Simon sick? Because he finished way way down today unless he fancies tomorrow ?
Surely todays stage has the best chance of a break staying away?!? Up and down all day but with no difficult finish.Pricey_sky said:On Backstage Pass DS Matt white said he believed yesterdays stage was the best chance for a break of the 4 days. It just seems as though they are missing that extra 1% towards the end of a stage but that will come with experience and more years in the peloton, they are only 22 after all.
It seems Simon has taken longer than expected to get over his cold from last week, Weening also has had some problems too so perhaps a bug in the team?
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