Carlos Betancur discussion thread

[hfer07]

^^ Can you translate? Seems like stupid VISA stuff again? I'm getting so sick and tired of that ****.

I'll give you the short version: Betancur just fvcked up his participation in the Tour because he did not upgrade his work visa on time so he has to apply & do the whole goddamn process again-plus he was asked to be in Europe at certain date to at least secure his ToS spot. Apart from that, it appears his shape still "round"-not sharp.....

sad indeed As Escarabajo pointed out- what a waste of talent due to lack of self commitment & discipline....

here is a link from the Colombian reporters: http://revistamundociclistico.com/r...-betancur-con-dificultades-para-correrlo.html

 

[Arredondo]

This is Betancur on 6 june. Not even in his AG2R kit.

https://twitter.com/YohannLossouarn

 

[hrotha]

One thing hfer didn't include in his short version is that Betancur isn't answering calls from Bartoli or the team.

 

[GuyIncognito]

One thing hfer didn't include in his short version is that Betancur isn't answering calls from Bartoli or the team.

And that the one time they managed to get him on the phone he said he was too tired to come race in europe

 

[Akuryo]

This dude seriously has to man up and learn how to be responsible for his own actions (or non actions in this case). Such a great talent but for what?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Brown power should probably consider firing him, before more sh!t hits the fan.

 

[gospina]

^^ Can you translate? Seems like stupid VISA stuff again? I'm getting so sick and tired of that ****.

He had residency in France and he let it expire...all he had to do is show up in the country before the expiration date. He stated that he never got the tickets delivered....we all know that this is bull, as tickets can be e-mailed, printed, etc..
He says he is fatigued, but then you see him riding around his bike on a different kit. We all know the rules and the respect you give a team kit. You always use it, until the end of the year, even if you sign for another team. This is just insulting at this point. Look at Arredondo, from same town, same area. He works really hard, and gets rewarded by it. The main guys at Trek congratulated him (Cancellara, Jens, Shlecks) publicly. He gets a contract extension. Not Carlos. Wasted talent. At this point, he will try to break his contract and hope someone else gets him. Doubt any WT team will pick him up (maybe Lampre?). He will have to fix his reputation at this point.

 

[TomasC]

He is.Nairo is humble and dont have so big apetit as la Ronca

El Bananito is much, much more fitting nickname for Betancur

 

[gospina]

El Bananito is much, much more fitting nickname for Betancur

se la pasa resbalando fuera de la cicla.

He keeps on slipping, when off the bike.

 

[Parrulo]

Wow this guy must be extremely dumb and irresponsible

Does he even realize he is reducing his own value by pulling this type of stunts?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

This is Betancur on 6 june. Not even in his AG2R kit.

https://twitter.com/YohannLossouarn

Actually, most colombian riders don't train in their team kit in colombia, because it's dangerous as ****. At least that's what botero always said

 

[hfer07]

And that the one time they managed to get him on the phone he said he was too tired to come race in europe

... Or too "hung over" to do so

then is the excuse of "not receiving the plane tickets" and be bothered by spending the money from his own pocket to get them.....

that s!t ain't right!!

I mean- I really like the fat cat a lot- like his riding style & skills, but this sh!it better stops right away if he wants a career as a Pro-Cyclist -better off start behaving & honoring the commitments inherited to the profession - otherwise just go back to a Pro-Conti team in Italy and get stuck there for life....

 

[One Man Grupetto]

I mean- I really like the fat cat a lot- like his riding style & skills, but this sh!it better stops right away if he wants a career as a Pro-Cyclist -better off start behaving & honoring the commitments inherited to the profession - otherwise just go back to a Pro-Conti team in Italy and get stuck there for life....

Absolutely. I bet Gianni Savio already has his number.

 

[slosada]

I doubt very much these pictures are recent. They were posted n Facebook last week but it seems that they were taken long time ago.
In some of the pics Arredondo appears much younger and less tanned than during the reception he was given.

 

[gospina]

I doubt very much these pictures are recent. They were posted n Facebook last week but it seems that they were taken long time ago.
In some of the pics Arredondo appears much younger and less tanned than during the reception he was given.

Good catch! I didn't even think of that. Took the timestamp as legit.

 

[slosada]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...100001994258571&type=1&theater&_fb_noscript=1

Here are both Betancur in that kit and Arredondo.

And please note that I'm not excusing Betancur for his unprofessional behavior. He's being paid for cycling and has a boss and an employer (and sponsors) who should be respected.

I agree that Carlos might have a similar talent to Quintana or Uran, but he needs counseling. Not just for his weight or use of spare time, but also during races he losses concentration and gets back in the peloton when he should be in front (see Paris-Nice) or does bad-timed attacks.

 

[Jelantik]

He had residency in France and he let it expire...all he had to do is show up in the country before the expiration date. He stated that he never got the tickets delivered....we all know that this is bull, as tickets can be e-mailed, printed, etc..
He says he is fatigued, but then you see him riding around his bike on a different kit. We all know the rules and the respect you give a team kit. You always use it, until the end of the year, even if you sign for another team. This is just insulting at this point. Look at Arredondo, from same town, same area. He works really hard, and gets rewarded by it. The main guys at Trek congratulated him (Cancellara, Jens, Shlecks) publicly. He gets a contract extension. Not Carlos. Wasted talent. At this point, he will try to break his contract and hope someone else gets him. Doubt any WT team will pick him up (maybe Lampre?). He will have to fix his reputation at this point.

Looks like a columbian version of Andy In different ways, but both are a wasted talent.

 

[jaylew]

I wouldn't call him a wasted talent just yet. The guy has put together some terrific results the last two years. I mean, he just won Paris-Nice a couple of months ago.

 

[Arnout]

Looks like a columbian version of Andy In different ways, but both are a wasted talent.

Colombian.

 

[hfer07]

Looks like a columbian version of Andy In different ways, but both are a wasted talent.

nah- Andy is just a spoiled brat while Betancur is simply careless and irresponsible-two different breeds


BTW:

 

[cineteq]

nah- Andy is just a spoiled brat while Betancur is simply careless and irresponsible-two different breeds

Hope he won't end like Rujano.

 

[hfer07]

Hope he won't end like Rujano.

actually, Rujano is the best comparison yet to Betancur- both full of talent but even more full of excuses & BS...

 

[IndianCyclist]

Maybe he is not ready to spend lot of time away from his family. In that case the bast way is to make him focus on just one part of the season like one of the GTs. From last year he was good at the Giro but in the Vuelta he was not upto the mark. Dividing the season into 2 parts seems to be useless for him.

 

[christopherrowe]

At this point I must admit I'm mainly interested in who Lavenu and Biondi are going to send to the Tour de Suisse and, presumably, the Tour de France, instead of Carlos.

 

[coimbrawu]

It reminds me that he signed a contract with Liquigas but later he found he still had one-year contract with Aqua & Sapone