Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[Andre]

Yes, plus he's been riding with some saddle sores the whole Vuelta. I hope he moves up a few more spots.

 

[Berniece]

His trainer deliberately didn't let him scout this stage because Angliru would break you mentally beforehand

 

[Andre]

His trainer deliberately didn't let him scout this stage because Angliru would break you mentally beforehand

I didn't know that. I'll be watching closely. Hopefully he doesn't have to work for Vlasov. There's only about 20 seconds or so between the two

 

[Berniece]

I didn't know that. I'll be watching closely. Hopefully he doesn't have to work for Vlasov. There's only about 20 seconds or so between the two

He had the freedom to ride his own race as long as Vlasov doesn't do substantially better. So today he'll ride for himself, but if he loses 5min on Vlasov, then the following days he'll have to help out.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Unless the Angliru does mentally break him, a top 10 finish is almost certainly locked (Almeida is one tough mf and could still take back a few minutes, but there's really no one else lurking behind).

Not sure he can finish much higher than 9th, though. There is just the internal competition with Vlasov, which has been slightly overshadowed by the one within Jumbo, and potentially a Landismo implosion...

 

[Berniece]

Unless the Angliru does mentally break him, a top 10 finish is almost certainly locked (Almeida is one tough mf and could still take back a few minutes, but there's really no one else lurking behind).

Not sure he can finish much higher than 9th, though. There is just the internal competition with Vlasov, which has been slightly overshadowed by the one within Jumbo, and potentially a Landismo implosion...

If he has the same legs as in the Pyrenees, I can imagine him finishing 6th in GC. Soler didn't seem that good yesterday and might completely break today. I think he's better than Vlasov, and definitely Landa.

 

[Andre]

Cian!!!! Chapeau. incredible young climber. 7th place now.

 

[Didinho]

Looks like the pure climber type. Insane for his age already, hope he can still improve.

 

[Andre]

Looks like the pure climber type. Insane for his age already, hope he can still improve.

if he can improve his TT and descending then I guess he could challenge for Le Tour de France.

 

[Berniece]

Already looking forward to the Giro next year. Or he might go for a Ayuso season with focus on the Vuelta and some WT stage races

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Great stuff today! So, not quite on Landa's level, but he did short work of Soler and Vlasov. 7th in this field is quite amazing.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Already looking forward to the Giro next year. Or he might go for a Ayuso season with focus on the Vuelta and some WT stage races

Its not impossible for him to outright win the Giro next year tbh. I have seen enough from him already, his motor is very, very good and his high mountain climbing is legit as well and thats the two single most important parameters for a GT winner.

 

[Berniece]

Its not impossible for him to outright win the Giro next year tbh. I have seen enough from him already, his motor is very, very good and his high mountain climbing is legit as well and thats the two single most important parameters for a GT winner.

He needs to be lucky for that to happen, but podium could definitely be feasible

 

[Valv.Piti]

He needs to be lucky for that to happen, but podium could definitely be feasible

Of course he needs to be lucky, but if the top tier guys ride the Tour (which I expect them to), he can beat the likes of Hindley, Carapaz, Mas, Ayuso, Yates, C-Rod etc. if everything falls into place.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Podium is always feasible in a race without top tier GC riders, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Our man has to improve quite a bit when it comes to TTs before he can really contend for the win on an average route, and frankly it wouldn't hurt if he could also sprint and descend somewhat better.

Cian's only 20 though, so the sky is the limit.

 

[markene2]

will be a fun talent to follow the next years, like his style. consider me a fan

 

[staubsauger]

Podium is always feasible in a race without top tier GC riders, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Our man has to improve quite a bit when it comes to TTs before he can really contend for the win on an average route, and frankly it wouldn't hurt if he could also sprint and descend somewhat better.

Cian's only 20 though, so the sky is the limit.

IMHO his current achilles tendon is his bad descending!

 

[Filippo_3467]

Already looking forward to the Giro next year. Or he might go for a Ayuso season with focus on the Vuelta and some WT stage races

It depends it's also a bit based on the parcours and the opposition. With the focus of the biggest riders next year on the Tour (at least Roglic, Jonas, Remco and Pogi want to be there by their own statements) it could be that Bora takes Hindley to the Giro in the hope that the field there is not as stacked. The Tour could me then more a stage-hunting, a GC leader + a light sprint train approach + some german story tellers for the media. That could be interesting for Cian. Taking a shot at the tour with almost no pressure because no one thinks he can podium. So he can ease more in this role. Cian, two mountain domestiques, a mixture of Denz/Schachmann/Kämna for stage hunting, van Poppel, sprinter + some fillers...

I think that would be the best approach. I would choose to talk Vlasov more in this program of targeting one weeks more as in 22 & then be one of multiple leaders at the Vuelta. For the Giro you can then build a nice squad around Hindley with Sorbrero, Buchmann, Zwiehoff + whoever is then on the team (they only have 22 riders confirmed)

 

[Berniece]

It depends it's also a bit based on the parcours and the opposition. With the focus of the biggest riders next year on the Tour (at least Roglic, Jonas, Remco and Pogi want to be there by their own statements) it could be that Bora takes Hindley to the Giro in the hope that the field there is not as stacked. The Tour could me then more a stage-hunting, a GC leader + a light sprint train approach + some german story tellers for the media. That could be interesting for Cian. Taking a shot at the tour with almost no pressure because no one thinks he can podium. So he can ease more in this role. Cian, two mountain domestiques, a mixture of Denz/Schachmann/Kämna for stage hunting, van Poppel, sprinter + some fillers...

I think that would be the best approach. I would choose to talk Vlasov more in this program of targeting one weeks more as in 22 & then be one of multiple leaders at the Vuelta. For the Giro you can then build a nice squad around Hindley with Sorbrero, Buchmann, Zwiehoff + whoever is then on the team (they only have 22 riders confirmed)

When Cian was asked about the TDF by the press he said that it came too early, and that Bora is easing him into GT's more slowly. Which makes sense, he's only 20 years old at the moment. So it's going to be the Giro, Vuelta or both.

 

[Filippo_3467]

Tbh both would be bit much. In the end could be that the Giro is the better fit for the next step. I think the point with Hindley stands. It makes no sense for Bora to bring him to the Tour.

 

[Lequack]

Cian Uijtdebroeks angry with his team after Chrono des Nations: “It’s always something with the material at BORA”
“That it’s always something with the material at Bora,” Uijtdebroeks said. He still has a contract until the end of 2024, but was spotted on the transfer market last week. It was fake news, Uijtdebroeks is sentences to put off his contract. “Then I’ll see if Bora can offer me what I need in the Grand Tours. If not, I look forward to another team.”

Cian Uijtdebroeks boos op zijn ploeg na Chrono des Nations: “Het is altijd iets met het materiaal bij BORA”

Van de 21 deelnemers reed Cian Uijtdebroeks in de Chrono des Nations als veertiende over de streep. Hij wil verbeteren in tijdrijden, maar daarvoor heeft hij de steun van zijn ploeg nodig. Hij eindigde uiteindelijk op 4:07 van winnaar Josh Tarling.

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[QueenStagiaire]

Cian Uijtdebroeks angry with his team after Chrono des Nations: “It’s always something with the material at BORA”
“That it’s always something with the material at Bora,” Uijtdebroeks said. He still has a contract until the end of 2024, but was spotted on the transfer market last week. It was fake news, Uijtdebroeks is sentences to put off his contract. “Then I’ll see if Bora can offer me what I need in the Grand Tours. If not, I look forward to another team.”

Cian Uijtdebroeks boos op zijn ploeg na Chrono des Nations: “Het is altijd iets met het materiaal bij BORA”

Van de 21 deelnemers reed Cian Uijtdebroeks in de Chrono des Nations als veertiende over de streep. Hij wil verbeteren in tijdrijden, maar daarvoor heeft hij de steun van zijn ploeg nodig. Hij eindigde uiteindelijk op 4:07 van winnaar Josh Tarling.

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I was very surprised that he even started Chrono des Nations since he hasn‘t been good at TTs during his pro career so far, I don‘t know what he expected to achieve.

 

[Red Rick]

I was very surprised that he even started Chrono des Nations since he hasn‘t been good at TTs during his pro career so far, I don‘t know what he expected to achieve.

Cause he wants to improve.

But he's definitely on a whining streak so far.

 

[Lequack]

Cause he wants to improve.

But he's definitely on a whining streak so far.

Remco will have worthy successor.

 

[Keldergoat]

Looks like the material is quite an easy scapegoat, the lack of improvement on his aerodynamics could be a valid point, though you would expect that to be affecting other riders at Bora as well. Vlasov and Kamna had some great TT's this season. Besides that, it looks like some youthful exuberance to make your point 3 times in one month.