Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

[Netserk]

UCI is not above the law, so when somebody buys out his contract as per actual LAW, UCI will have no choice but recognise the buy out. Conversely, it's not up to UCI to decide a team has to go along with a buy-out, when the team can demand more as per labour law.

And no law privileges a rider with the right to ride UCI races. If he doesn't follow the rules, UCI are free to deny him the right to race.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

And no law privileges a rider with the right to ride UCI races. If he doesn't follow the rules, UCI are free to deny him the right to race.

Yes, where did i contradict that?

 

[Andre]

Can Cian improve his TT abilities? An would Visma put some effort into helping him become much better? I'm just wondering why such a bad result.

 

[Netserk]

Yes, where did i contradict that?

Where did I write that the UCI is above the LAW?

 

[ManicJack]

Looks like someone is trying to be baited. Pretty lame.

 

[acm]

Don't be so salty. Based on his performance, Visma will have to pay him even less.

Maybe they are paying him less... Tratnik earned more in Bahrain than now in Visma.

 

[Berniece]

Can Cian improve his TT abilities? An would Visma put some effort into helping him become much better? I'm just wondering why such a bad result.

Apparently it was improved. In an interview before the race he said they already worked on it, and that Tirreno would give an indication on the improvements. Which doesn’t make sense with this result.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Apparently it was improved. In an interview before the race he said they already worked on it, and that Tirreno would give an indication on the improvements. Which doesn’t make sense with this result.

Can't polish a turd?

 

[Elos Anjos]

Can't polish a turd?

Occam's razor.

 

[repre]

Can Cian improve his TT abilities? An would Visma put some effort into helping him become much better? I'm just wondering why such a bad result.

He rode in the most rainy conditions, Carapaz had bad ITT in this conditions too. I think this whole thing is way overblown. Cian is notoriously bad bike handler, so in this conditions with dangereous corners he rode it safely, but slowly. He is not good at ITT obviously, but not that bad too

 

[scribers]

Can't polish a turd?

You can try to cover it with a huge helmet tho

 

[scribers]

RIP logic is your friend! We hardly knew ye!

 

[ManicJack]

RIP logic is your friend! We hardly knew ye!

Totally BS.

 

[roundabout]

He rode in the most rainy conditions, Carapaz had bad ITT in this conditions too. I think this whole thing is way overblown. Cian is notoriously bad bike handler, so in this conditions with dangereous corners he rode it safely, but slowly. He is not good at ITT obviously, but not that bad too

Healy started 9 minutes earlier and was 30 seconds faster.

Walscheid started 4 minutes earlier and was 36 seconds faster.

Del Toro started 9 minutes later and was 38 seconds faster.

 

[Andre]

Oh man Logic is banned again s#it. I see how he got baited into it though. Bulls#it

 

[ManicJack]

Oh man Logic is banned again s#it. I see how he got baited into it though. Bulls#it

New power trip.

 

[scribers]

I don't see the bannable offense. Maybe the offense was archived?

I mean unless rehashed-hash is bannable now. Because this rider's contract situation is about mind-numbingly boring.

 

[scribers]

If I was admin I would ban people who make a habit out of not entertaining me.

 

[ManicJack]

If I was admin I would ban people who make a habit out of not entertaining me.

It's quite obvious that all it takes is disagreeing with a couple former mods and now a new one. Totally BS.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I don't see the bannable offense. Maybe the offense was archived?

Bannable posts always get deleted simultaneously with the ban being handed out.

I have a lot of other things I’d like to say about this, but since we’re discussing moderation actions here which isn’t allowed either, there really is no point as these posts will all be removed too.

 

[Colonel]

Looking at times against Ayuso as a progression or regression in short for Cian:

Vuelta
Distance: 25.8km
Difference: 1m25s

Tirreno
Distance: 10km
Difference: 1m10s

If this was a 25km iTT Cian would have a further time time loss yesterday on Ayuso (GC contender) who by all accounts looked like he has improved his already good TT looking at his position compared to last year.
Yes, you can say the weather but Healy and Walscheid started before him and rode significantly quicker times.

For an already bad TT'r seemed to go better at Bora to date TT wise.

 

[tobydawq]

Oh, come on...

 

[Gargamel35]

Finally banned (again). He's constantly bashing others and baiting users into his belgian guys agenda and acts like a smartass.
If you managed to get banned so many times from a cycling forum (and from different admins), YOU are the problem.

Back to Cian. I'm sure he can do better and it's his first real race with Visma (and TT) so many things are probably off. Plus the weather and maybe even a bad day. Despite that, the way he left the old team (bashing equipment and people working on in), the pressure to do better now is on him.

 

[Berniece]

Finally banned (again). He's constantly bashing others and baiting users into his belgian guys agenda and acts like a smartass.
If you managed to get banned so many times from a cycling forum (and from different admins), YOU are the problem.

Is it though? When you follow that conversation, there was only one person constantly moving the goalpost and baiting someone.

 

[Gargamel35]

Is it though? When you follow that conversation, there was only one person constantly moving the goalpost and baiting someone.

Yep. It's all the same with you two and couple other belgium fans. It would be fantastic if you would be able to move your goalpost just a bit and allow others to have an opinion without belittle them all the time and scream belgium agenda all over the place. Logic was not capable of that and him getting banned all the time proves that. I'm sorry you lost your hero. Now go back to the topic.