HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Way to follow the script Mario! Luigi could learn a few things from you!
the asian said:Probably never. This is just a threat at CONI. Stop asking for all the names to be revealed we out whoever we want, starting with an Italian.
Benotti69 said:Was talking to a friend who is from Lucca, he said this wont be news. In all the disco's 20 years ago the cyclists were the guys to go to for drugs.
airstream said:Franke was saying he had the entire Puerto dossier. If an anti-doping expert has it, he is not the only one among uninterested parties. Why it doesn't come into light is unknown. I hope one day all the riders will be punished. Puerto splitted cycling world so brutally. One like Contador or Cancellara got a huge impetus and even built their image partially on anti-doping stage, having been usual Puerto riders. But who will remember Paco and Il Nino whose lives were derailed after a few years??? Huge human tragedies stand behind that...
Elagabalus said:Yep. Have the interviewed Cipo on the news yet? He's just going to laugh this off.
laziali said:Not baffling at all - doping was criminalised in Italy and France at the time but not in Spain (may still not be there?). A short flight beats jail time, just ask the Festina boys and Millar etc
DirtyWorks said:Assuming there is enforceable doping law in two or more countries:
Doping is Illegal in Italy, if you are Italian.
Doping is Illegal in Spain, if you are Spanish.
An Italian visiting Spain to dope or vice-versa is not "illegal." Authorities have a similar problem with Wonderboy's international operation.
martinvickers said:I'm not sure about that, DirtyWorks. as a general rule the laws of the country apply to everyone within the country at the time, native or not. So if Brit cyclist A doped in France, he's amenable to prosecution in France (D. Millar?) - there may be jurisdictional difficulties in 'getting your hands' on a doping tourist once he's out of the country again, but if he's in your country, I'm pretty sure you can usually grab him.
laziali said:That is correct Martin, nationality is irrelevant so long as the offence takes place within the jurisdiction (like you Martin, I know a lot about the law and although I cannot claim expertise in Spanish law, I would be staggered if it is different on such a fundamental principle).
But, as I already said, at the time doping was not illegal in Spain. It took Operacion Puerto to change that.
coinneach said:apologies re spelling, (never good on a saturday night) and i hadn't noticed your location...no intention of rubbing noses in it.
berlusconni and i go back a long way (well to genoa in 2001): I can't be bothered looking his name up to spell it properly.
I hope to goodness you guys can come through all this....cipo will be painful for many people in italy. (as will cancellara for switzerland)
somehow we expect more from our sportsmen in terms of honesty than we do from our politicians: Not fair really!
Oh and by the way, it coinneach not coinneach!