Contador positive!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Just a quick question. Did/Does anyone think Contador is/was clean? Just curious.

Nope, not at all, transfusions and micro dosing, and possibly some other interesting things during training.

HOwever, I dont think this one will go anywhere, plenty of instances of food contamination, and he has "known" issues with allergy's etc.

What I do find amusing that this is announced on the same day that contador is quoted as saying that cycling is clean and their were not positives in the tour de france. Bad timing or what

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Just had to check back to see what people are saying this. I mean this forum's collective man crush gets popped for doping, I love it.

Can't wait to hear the slew of excuses to come. Food contamination is hard to believe considering how meticulous he is about diet; maybe it'll catch on as the next trendy excuse.

Don't know much about the drug honestly, but by all accounts it burns fat, enhances muscle performance and aids in breathing....hmmm now how would that benefit a cyclist?

 

[richwagmn]

Yep what a stupid mistake from me. Tourmalet. Wow what an oversight.

So now that we have established that, what about a grand conspiracy on the part of Schleck. He knows he cant beat Conti in the tt. He knows Contador is joining Riis and he hates Riis. How to solve all your problems Andy.

Heres how....

Well, if we're engaging in conspiracy theories, I'd say Vino might have as much motive as anyone.

Also wondering what Spartacus knew?

 

[egtalbot]

very entertaining thread! Can't say I'm surprised, but certainly can't say I predicted it, either.

regarding all the talk about whether clenbuterol would help him or whether he'd be stupid enough to take it or whatever, I can't help but think of Ben Johnson in 1988.

Johnson tested positive for Stanozolol. At the time I remember thinking that it was not the drug most of the guys were taking by then - too much of a blunt instrument compared to what was available. And it seemed clear Johnson was on a sophisticated program. When it all finally came out, they admitted to everything, seven years of the program except they swore he never took stanozolol. They claimed someone framed him or managed to introduce it into his body.

I don't buy that. But it makes me think about this AC situation. Whatever we think about the clenbuterol, it is foolishness to defend him by saying he couldn't have done it because it wasn't a smart move. For reasons we may not know, he certainly may have thought it would help and thought he had it planned/masked so he could get away with it.

We do know it is possible to ingest small amounts of clenbuterol for totally innocent reasons, just as we know it was possible in the 1990s for trace amounts of non-naturally occurring nandrolone to unknowingly be in supplements when guys were testing positive for that in track & field. But I'm afraid that my "benefit of the doubt" meter has been pegged on zero for quite a while when it comes to professional sports. After this positive test, unless someone admits to sabotaging him, we'll be better off if he DOESN'T get off than if he does.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Just had to check back to see what people are saying this. I mean this forum's collective man crush gets popped for doping, I love it.
Can't wait to hear the slew of excuses to come. Food contamination is hard to believe considering how meticulous he is about diet; maybe it'll catch on as the next trendy excuse.

Don't know much about the drug honestly, but by all accounts it burns fat, enhances muscle performance and aids in breathing....hmmm now how would that benefit a cyclist?

Post of the day. spot on! At least it is not just me who thinks this.

 

[warmfuzzies]

Time to change the screen name

Contador=doper. This year also showed that Contador is not a sportsman who respects Tour tradition. I say good riddance - the guy doesn't deserve to be in the peloton.

 

[JRTinMA]

Is this true? I always assumed CN was US based given the number of LA followers/haters. And US based advertising links.

And didn't need this post to make ACF look a bit intellectually questionable, sometimes Im ashamed to call myself an Aussie cycling fan when I read his posts.

Through the wonders of the internet you get US ads in the US. Did you just assume they couldn't spell for **** every time you saw the word "favourite" instead of the proper spelling favorite? The Aussie fan thing is for you to sort out, good luck bruther.

 

[DenisMenchov]

How can I belive now that he was clean in 2007 Tour???????

 

[richwagmn]

Just had to check back to see what people are saying this. I mean this forum's collective man crush gets popped for doping, I love it.

Can't wait to hear the slew of excuses to come. Food contamination is hard to believe considering how meticulous he is about diet; maybe it'll catch on as the next trendy excuse.

Don't know much about the drug honestly, but by all accounts it burns fat, enhances muscle performance and aids in breathing....hmmm now how would that benefit a cyclist?

Looks like you're going to be sorely disappointed. I doubt you'll find many on this forum excusing AC. People here are pretty brutal towards dopers.

 

[erader]

Just had to check back to see what people are saying this. I mean this forum's collective man crush gets popped for doping, I love it.

Can't wait to hear the slew of excuses to come. Food contamination is hard to believe considering how meticulous he is about diet; maybe it'll catch on as the next trendy excuse.
Don't know much about the drug honestly, but by all accounts it burns fat, enhances muscle performance and aids in breathing....hmmm now how would that benefit a cyclist?

paolo pezzo about 15 years ago. there's nothing new under the sun.

erader

 

[richwagmn]

Post of the day. spot on! At least it is not just me who thinks this.

Have you changed your undies yet? You must have peed them twice by now.

 

[erader]

How can I belive now that he was clean in 2007 Tour???????

if you believe any tour winner is clean you are naive. but then again you are a menchov fan .......

erader

 

[DenisMenchov]

Have you changed your undies yet? You must have peed them twice by now.

Stupid post.....

 

[Jancouver]

So Sastre is the only "clean" TDF winner in last 15 years? How about BigMig? That would take us back 20 years

By "clean" I mean not officially involved in any doping investigation.

Congrats Carlos!

 

[DenisMenchov]

if you believe any tour winner is clean you are naive. but then again you are a menchov fan .......

erader

They are as clean as they get.... Like all other sportsman. Bolt is that fast? than Schleck is as fast(going uphill).

 

[Ferminal]

Looks like ole Bertie did a wiki search for the most logical excuse.

I think he he has to go down and will, the full two years.

Looks like all betting sites have taken the 2011 futures down, if only you didn't "break it" ACF

Just had to check back to see what people are saying this. I mean this forum's collective man crush gets popped for doping, I love it.

Can't wait to hear the slew of excuses to come. Food contamination is hard to believe considering how meticulous he is about diet; maybe it'll catch on as the next trendy excuse.

Don't know much about the drug honestly, but by all accounts it burns fat, enhances muscle performance and aids in breathing....hmmm now how would that benefit a cyclist?

You're fishing but there's nothing there.

Almost 95% of posts seem to be 1) He's a doper anyway, 2) He will go down for it. If you have something to say on the contrary, quote the posts and take it up with them directly.

Stick to conspiracy theories.

 

[Squares]

if you ask so many questions and yet posted a far-fetched theory w/o ever qualifying it with the said questions you expect being taken seriously ? is it again a 'devils advocate' re the 99 samples conspiracy talking ?

No Python, you seemed to state that it was not possible for the clenbuterol to get in his urine from a contaminated blood bag. Then, you seemed to want to bring up old threads.

So, what is it? Are you saying that it is impossible for the clenbuterol to get there via tainted blood?

You are apparently a much better scientist than I, so please tell me the half life of clenbuterol in ex vivo blood stored at 4C. Then tell me how it would be cleared from the body after transfusion.

Let's talk basic clinical pharmacokinetics and ADME to show how it couldn't arise from transfusions as you suggest.

 

[webvan]

Tough break for "A.C" (re unidentified Operation Puerto bags) but that's what happens when you ride the line, same thing for Floyd in 2006. It's a bit like DUI, under 0.08 you're scotts free, above you're in trouble. What's the fix? Not take anything.

 

[erader]

So Sastre is the only "clean" TDF winner in last 15 years? How about BigMig? That would take us back 20 years

By "clean" I mean not officially involved in any doping investigation.

Congrats Carlos!

indurain tested positive but like lance was given a pass.

erader

 

[Anonymous]

Swimmer Jessica Hardy got busted for it a while back. Ban reduced to one year after she showed it was in a tainted food supplement.

Brit Callum Priestley after failing a test in south africa which was widely claimed to be salbutemol poisoning. Multiple athletes went down with the symptoms of salbutemol poisoning but only he was tested.

Im no AC fan at all, i think hes a cheating git, but, this one seems a little weird.

Then again, Landis and testosterone seemed weird, something he still denies but admits epo. Its really hard to get Lance out of my head when stuff like this is going on.

 

[The Hitch]

Well, if we're engaging in conspiracy theories, I'd say Vino might have as much motive as anyone.

Also wondering what Spartacus knew?

The point was Schleck dropped the chain. Without that Contador doesnt get tested (im not sure but thats what it looks like). What does Vino do? Under any grand plan of Vinos, Contador isnt in yellow on rest day 2 and hence doesnt get tested.

 

[erader]

They are as clean as they get.... Like all other sportsman. Bolt is that fast? than Schleck is as fast(going uphill).

say wot? repeat after me: "THEY ALL DOPE".

erader

 

[Oldbiker]

You beat me to it!

Doesn't sound like the kind of drug you would take during a 3 week tour. I would think weight loss would be fairly easy to achieve without the aid of drugs. I'll wait to form a solid opinion when all the facts come out.

Maybe Lance could advise Alberto how to get a back dated TUE

that kind of stance is unusual on this forum

 

[nicholaaaas]

Is this true? I always assumed CN was US based given the number of LA followers/haters. And US based advertising links.

And didn't need this post to make ACF look a bit intellectually questionable, sometimes Im ashamed to call myself an Aussie cycling fan when I read his posts.

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[DenisMenchov]

say wot? repeat after me: "THEY ALL DOPE".

erader

I watch sport for entertainment. Dunno about you, but I don`t care what they do when they are off bike, outside court, pitch, track or field.